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Bagaimana cara pindah gigi yg benar?

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hi guys, gua mau tanya nih, gimana sih pindah gigi yg benar supaya mobil kita lebih irit BBM. Kalo gua gigi 1 s/d 20km/h, gigi 2 s/d 40 km/h, gigi 3 s/d 60 km/h, gigi 4 s/d 80 atau 90 km/h, langsung pindah gigi 5
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Ke dokter aja, nanti giginya pasti dipindahin.. wakakaka...

Kalo gw tergantung RPM atau suara mesinnya..
Kalo naik mobil :
Sekitar 3-4 rb kalo mau sedikit aggresive
Kalo mau nyantai 2-3 rb

kalo naik motor (gw punya 2tak)
Sekitar 5rban...
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kalo dokternya cuma terima bongkar gak terima pasang ogah ah, he..he
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Menurut saya sih selain pindah gigi di rpm yang tepat, injakan gas mesti diurut halus. Maksudnya injakan pedal gasnya ngikutin naiknya rpm mesin, jangan diinjak dalem2.. Karena begitu kita injak pedal gas dalam2, ECU (untuk mesin bensin) akan ngliat ini sebagai akselerasi & dia akan nyemprotkan bensin banyak2..

Lumayan efektif kok, Kijang saya bisa 1:13-14 (diesel tapinya), padahal dipake macet2an tiap hari di Jakarta hehe..
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Post by StRaDe_Jazz »

kalo mau hemat akselerasi nya dikurangin bro, bener tuh kata bro flexiblebil, juga dengan posisi pergantian gigi yg lebih lambat, contoh
gear 1 20kph, gear 2 30kph, gear 3 50kph, gear 4 65/70kph, gw kemaren kek ginian bisa lebih hemat 1-2 kilo buat 1 liter bensin
Bro2 sekalian nemu double post? atau ada spam?
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r1210g wrote:Ke dokter aja, nanti giginya pasti dipindahin.. wakakaka...

Kalo gw tergantung RPM atau suara mesinnya..
Kalo naik mobil :
Sekitar 3-4 rb kalo mau sedikit aggresive
Kalo mau nyantai 2-3 rb

kalo naik motor (gw punya 2tak)
Sekitar 5rban...
berarti kalo super agresive pindah gigi di 6500 sampai 7800 RPM ya boss? hehehe
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Hi Guys,

Menurut saya ganti gigi yg paling tepat itu pada saat mesin dalam keadaan mencapai torsi maksimum yaitu sekitar 4000 rpm krn pada saat ini mesin telah mencapai moment of inertia tertinggi dan fly wheel akan membantu untuk mendorong body mobil dan perputaran mesin itu sendiri dengan maksimum. Sedangkan utk pemakaian bbm yg optimal yaitu apabila kita cruise dengan menggunakan gigi yg tepat utk mendapatkan rpm antara 2000-4000. Pada saat rpm 2000-4000 biasanya mesin standard yg belum diganti camshaft dan headernya akan memiliki volumetric efficiency yg maksimal sehingga menghasilkan torsi dan moment of inertia yg optimum sehingga kita hanya perlu menginjak pedal gas sedikit untuk mempertahankan kecepatan dan untuk melakukan percepatan. Pada mesin dengan EFI tentunya air mass sensor akan membaca air intake yg sedikit dan memerintahkan ECU utk menyemprotkan bbm seminimal mungkin.
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wah kalo ganti gigi di 6000-7000 sih bensinnya ngucur hehe.. setau saya nggak ada patokan ganti gigi mesti kecepatan berapa, karena tiap mobil kan punya perbandingan transmisi yang beda2. tapi banyak yang menyarankan ganti gigi di rpm yang torsinya maksimum, seperti dibilang bro leadingedge.

kalau saya sih, kalau gigi berikutnya udah kerasa kuat, ganti gigi aja biar rpm-nya rendah. makanya mobil diesel saya gigi 1 nggak pernah dipake, abis gigi 2 udah kuat :).
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:roll: ... pindah gigi atau ganti gigi nih, kalo kata dokter gigi mah kudu atu-atu kalo mo ganti gigi, emang sedikit sakit pas di suntik, tapi setelah 10 menit nanti ada rasa kebal dan siap di ganti tuh gigi alias dicabut dulu.. :lol:

Kalo saya sih gigi nggak perlu diganti, dipindah saja dari gigi rendah ke tinggi atau sebaliknya, sesuai dengan RPM mesinnnya, pake felling, kalo suara mesin dan tarikan mesin terasa udah maks atau rendah, pindahi deh gigi-nya, dengan catatan tekan pedal kopling dengan benar. sip dah.... :wink:
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piterr wrote:
r1210g wrote:Ke dokter aja, nanti giginya pasti dipindahin.. wakakaka...

Kalo gw tergantung RPM atau suara mesinnya..
Kalo naik mobil :
Sekitar 3-4 rb kalo mau sedikit aggresive
Kalo mau nyantai 2-3 rb

kalo naik motor (gw punya 2tak)
Sekitar 5rban...
berarti kalo super agresive pindah gigi di 6500 sampai 7800 RPM ya boss? hehehe
Wakakaka... Ini mah aggresive gila samoe pengen ngancurin mobil sendiri...
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Kalau masalah ganti gigi yang keliru dan bikin nggak hemat bbm..
alternatif yang bagus ganti aja ke mobil matik.
Nggak perlu repot repot ganti gigi dan kuatir salah dan bikin boros bebeem :e-dance:
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Emang ganti gigi paling tepat pada torsi maksimum, dan torsi maksimum berbeda-beda tiap jenis mesin.makanya harus jeli mencermati spesifikasi mesin, misalnya Toyo Avanza, torsi maksimal 120 NM (12,2 kg-m) / 3.200 Rpm, jadi pindah gigi berada sedikit diatas 3200 rpm, biar pas masuk berada di sekitar 3200 rpm, itu untuk mendapat torsi maksimal. kalo buat irit-iritan, tergantung jalannya. kalau jalan datar, silakan ganti gigi pada rpm serendah-rendahnya asal tidak ngelitik dan pedal gas tidak terasa dalam. Saya pernah, bahkan sering pake Avanza pada 40-50 km/h pake gigi 5, n hasilnya irit bgt tuh, tapi ingat, jangan dipaksa kalo mau berakselerasi, jadi itu hanya berlaku saat jalan datar ato turun, dan jalan dengan kecepatan konstan.
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Cloud wrote:Emang ganti gigi paling tepat pada torsi maksimum, dan torsi maksimum berbeda-beda tiap jenis mesin.makanya harus jeli mencermati spesifikasi mesin, misalnya Toyo Avanza, torsi maksimal 120 NM (12,2 kg-m) / 3.200 Rpm, jadi pindah gigi berada sedikit diatas 3200 rpm, biar pas masuk berada di sekitar 3200 rpm, itu untuk mendapat torsi maksimal..
bro cloud, jadi kalo mau boil berakselerasi dengan maksimal, pindahin gigi transmisinya pada saat putaran mesin dengan torsi maksimum ya?
kalo di atas itu, namanya overdrive bukan?
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Post by christiantosetiawan »

guys, saya mau tanya lagi nih, apa benar kalo kita pindah gigi di rpm rendah, bisa bikin mesin jadi manja, boyo, and gak bertenaga?
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Post by arinme »

^ bisa jadi bos, karena putaran mesin blom optimal tapi diberi beban yang lebih berat (perseneling tinggi = rasio lebih berat), ya akibatnya jadi boyo, bukan manja, tapi emang keberatan
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First of all, I'm so sorry I know this is an old discussion but the topic is very important I am appealing to the admin. Please approve my post, " What is the optimal shifting strategy for maximizing fuel efficiency, considering specific speed increments between gears (1-20km/h, 2-40km/h, etc.) and a final shift to 5th gear?"

I think so shifting gears smoothly and efficiently depends on various factors like your car's model, road conditions, and driving style. However, here's a general guideline to maximize fuel efficiency:

1. Start smooth and avoid revving: Gently accelerate in lower gears without exceeding 2000-2500 RPM (engine revolutions per minute). Higher revs consume more fuel.

2. Upshift progressively: As you gain speed, gradually shift to higher gears. Aim for around 2000-2500 RPM in each gear before upshifting. This sweet spot balances power and fuel economy.

3. Listen to your engine: Pay attention to the engine sound. When it starts straining or revving higher, it's time to upshift.

4. Don't lug the engine: Avoid staying in a high gear at low speeds. This puts strain on the engine and reduces fuel efficiency. Downshift if the engine sounds sluggish or the car struggles to maintain speed.

5. Coast when safe: When approaching traffic lights or stop signs, ease off the accelerator and let the car coast in gear. This utilizes engine braking and saves fuel.

Remember, these are general tips, and the optimal shifting points might differ slightly for your specific car.

Bonus: Eco-driving techniques like maintaining a steady speed, avoiding sudden acceleration and braking, and anticipating traffic flow can further improve fuel efficiency.

By practicing smooth and mindful gear changes, you can optimize fuel economy and extend the life of your car's engine.
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dutta8 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:38 First of all, I'm so sorry I know this is an old discussion but the topic is very important I am appealing to the admin. Please approve my post, " What is the optimal shifting strategy for maximizing fuel efficiency, considering specific speed increments between gears (1-20km/h, 2-40km/h, etc.) and a final shift to 5th gear?"

I think so shifting gears smoothly and efficiently depends on various factors like your car's model, road conditions, and driving style. However, here's a general guideline to maximize fuel efficiency:

1. Start smooth and avoid revving: Gently accelerate in lower gears without exceeding 2000-2500 RPM (engine revolutions per minute). Higher revs consume more fuel.

2. Upshift progressively: As you gain speed, gradually shift to higher gears. Aim for around 2000-2500 RPM in each gear before upshifting. This sweet spot balances power and fuel economy.

3. Listen to your engine: Pay attention to the engine sound. When it starts straining or revving higher, it's time to upshift.

4. Don't lug the engine: Avoid staying in a high gear at low speeds. This puts strain on the engine and reduces fuel efficiency. Downshift if the engine sounds sluggish or the car struggles to maintain speed.

5. Coast when safe: When approaching traffic lights or stop signs, ease off the accelerator and let the car coast in gear. This utilizes engine braking and saves fuel.

Remember, these are general tips, and the optimal shifting points might differ slightly for your specific car.

Bonus: Eco-driving techniques like maintaining a steady speed, avoiding sudden acceleration and braking, and anticipating traffic flow can further improve fuel efficiency.gb whatsapp pro
By practicing smooth and mindful gear changes, you can optimize fuel economy and extend the life of your car's engine.
Can anyone answer this question? Although I know this topic is very old. :big_sorry:
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dutta8 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:38 First of all, I'm so sorry I know this is an old discussion but the topic is very important I am appealing to the admin. Please approve my post, " What is the optimal shifting strategy for maximizing fuel efficiency, considering specific speed increments between gears (1-20km/h, 2-40km/h, etc.) and a final shift to 5th gear?"

I think so shifting gears smoothly and efficiently depends on various factors like your car's model, road conditions, and driving style. However, here's a general guideline to maximize fuel efficiency:

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I think it's not about the speed, but the engine RPM. If you drive a car, you will get the feel about your car engine capabilities. I drive several diferent cars, and every car has different feel when I should shift for efficient fuel consumption. First try between 2,500 - 3,500 RPM, and the adjust the shifting RPM based on your feel.
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Yg bikin irit bbm menurut saya selama mobil kecepatannya stabil dan tidak naik turun di rpm 2500-3500an mau gigi berapapun,kalo sering2 ganti gigi juga ttp aja boros krn rpm mesin naik turun
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Wah keren ini di SM ada bule...wkwk
Betul sekali gear shifting mobil manual mesti tau sweetspotnya..teorinya naik gigi secepat mgkn tanpa bikin mesin kayak terpaksa jalan gitu...ya kalo udh lama nyetir mobilnya pasti lama2 feeling terasah...
Ama hindari manuver dadakan...misal udh tau di depan ngelambat...ya utk apa kita malah tambah gas & ngerem dalam2...
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zonepublic wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:59 Yg bikin irit bbm menurut saya selama mobil kecepatannya stabil dan tidak naik turun di rpm 2500-3500an mau gigi berapapun,kalo sering2 ganti gigi juga ttp aja boros krn rpm mesin naik turun
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Stabil, itu kuncinya..
Kalo ane, stabil di kecepatan 40-80, itu lumayan irit..
Nggk stop n go sering2, speed naik/turun smooth..

Btw, tiap mobil beda2, kerasa kok kapan waktunya pindah transmisi...
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MSU wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 13:01 Wah keren ini di SM ada bule...wkwk
Betul sekali gear shifting mobil manual mesti tau sweetspotnya..teorinya naik gigi secepat mgkn tanpa bikin mesin kayak terpaksa jalan gitu...ya kalo udh lama nyetir mobilnya pasti lama2 feeling terasah...
Ama hindari manuver dadakan...misal udh tau di depan ngelambat...ya utk apa kita malah tambah gas & ngerem dalam2...
nah bener bgt nih pulse and glide, coasting ketika depan terlihat lampu merah or keliatan kendaraan depan brenti. kalo di trit sebelah disebutnya aliran siksa diri :mky_03:
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