Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012 - PART 01

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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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kayaknya nissan emang perlu banyak belajar terutama karakter di ASEAN gak cuma indonesia...denger-2 seh udah nyiapin engineer dari lokal utk itu utk support pabrik di sini...kalo masa depan nissan saya masih yakin sangat bagus...dia lawan toyota kelasnya di jepang...kalo daihatsu lawannya suzuki....secara peringkat kalo saya katakan toyota, nissan, honda, mitsubishi, dan setelah itu baru kecil-2 kayak suzuki, daihatsu, mazda, subaru dst...
dulu nissan hampir bangkrut krn kebanyakan model tapi sekarang adalah masa kebangkitan nissan di dunia..yg pernah berkunjung ke jepang pasti tahu betapa banyak model/type nissan dijalanan
yah..sepengetahuan saya sih kayak gitu...
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bisti wrote:kayaknya nissan emang perlu banyak belajar terutama karakter di ASEAN gak cuma indonesia...denger-2 seh udah nyiapin engineer dari lokal utk itu utk support pabrik di sini...kalo masa depan nissan saya masih yakin sangat bagus...dia lawan toyota kelasnya di jepang...kalo daihatsu lawannya suzuki....secara peringkat kalo saya katakan toyota, nissan, honda, mitsubishi, dan setelah itu baru kecil-2 kayak suzuki, daihatsu, mazda, subaru dst...
sepakat.
utk case di jepang only mmg kek gitu.

sdgkan klo diitung sedunia berdasar revenue, toyota jd jauh di atas. revenue skitar 18 truilyun yen. dg cattn daihatsu dikonsolidasi jg kesini ya.
nissan dan honda skitar 8 T yen. lalu suzuki no 4 dg skitar 2.5 trilyun, mgkin sumbangan revenue terbesar dr india.
trus mitsu sm mazda deket2. 1.6 T. trus diikuti yg lain2.
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Page'a udh setengah dekade nih om mods..
Ganti barulah part2, siapa tau udh ada yg indent ini mobil... "̮ƗƗɐƗƗɐƗƗɐ"̮ "̮ƗƗɐƗƗɐƗƗɐ"̮
Sdh ada yg liat iklan'a di tipi kah evalia ini?
Syg skali sy lihat td ga ada p'nampakan blkng body evalia yg di katakan aneh ini... (^o^)V : Peace !
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Singkat aja kesimpulan ane Kalo ngelihat designnya:
evalia jelek :mky_06:
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Aneh prediksi ane ama ertiga aja masih larisan ertiga . apalagi kl mau ngalahin avania , jauhhhhh bener. Bentuknya asli bikin muntah .
Mgkn saingannya luxio kali ya ?
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Itu namanya lumayan daripada ga ada, tapi bagus juga si menurut mata awam ane si evalia ini namanya... cewek bangetz... :wkkk:
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Suspensi belakang masih jaman bahula. Alias suspensi DINO.
Rigid axle leaf spring. Ane yakin ini menjadi kelemahan terbesar evalia.
Sama seperti kijang kapsul , panther lama , katana , carry atau truk colt diesel kepala kuning.

Kalau nissan mengatakan suspensi itulah kelebihan evalia , karena distribusi merata. Ane katakan itu nggak sepenuhnya bener.

Suspensi seperti itu mengakibatkan getaran terutama bagi penumpang belakang , seperti di kocok2 ke atas.
Mengakalinya adalah dengan menggunakan leaf spring yang lembut seperti halnya punya opel blazer.
Syaratnya adalah bobot mobil berat dan size bodynya gedhe.

Tapi ada kelemahannya. Yaitu menjadikan pengendalian menjadi sangat tumpul dan tidak sigap. Hal ini juga yang menjadikan kelemahan mobil seperti panther atau tokisul.

Apalagi kalau digunakan pada kecepatan tinggi di TOL. serasa melayang. Makanya pihak nissan mengatakan bahwa evalia cocok utk keluarga santai. Bukan driver enthusiast.
Heheheh ane jadi inget suspensinya becak ... waduh..... lebay..
Nggak fleksible sama sekali.


Mengenai walau memakai leaf spring , tapi kenapa tokisul lebih nyaman daripada avanza.
Karena bobot tokisul lebih berat dari avanza.
Tapi coba ente bandingin ama inova. lebih nyaman mana. huahahahahah


Juga bandingin APV arena ama APV lawas. Nyaman mana hayooo......

Ridig axle tidak flexible. Terlalu menurut ane.

Tapi suspensi independent kalau racikannya salah menjadikan terlalu flexible , akan membuat mobil terlalu mengayun dan tidak nyaman justru.

Hal ini terutama dirasakan pada mobil suspensi independent yang udah lama , dimana per ama shocknya udah lemah. justru tidak nyaman.

jadi menurut ane. suspensi belakang model torsion , seperti alphard , adalah pemilihan suspensi yang paling tepat.
Berada di tengah2 antara rigid dan flexible independent.

Avanza , juga suspensi belakang sudah tepat. Apalagi innova. suspensi depannya double wishbone , belakang torsion beam. kenyamanannya baik. keawetannya juga baik.

suspensi belakang evalia. Cuma gardan nggak ada. FWD kah ?? atau RWD ??.
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supensi avanza
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Evalia . good bye....
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Soal leaf spring bisa nyaman karena bobot berat, yup terbukti pada CJ-7 versus Katana, jauh. Padahal spring ratenya masih rendahan Katana, dasar bodinya aja terlalu enteng.

Saya pernah baca, bila coil spring versus leaf spring dengan spring rate yang sama dipasang di mobil berbobot sama, tetep nyamanan coil. Susah ngejelasin logika teknisnya. Help.

Evalia ini RWD yak? Kirain FWD hehehe gak ngikutin.

Om Sapimelet, torsion beam keknya sama aja ama five link nya ala Taruna gitu yak? Ada 2 link megang masing2 sisi axle atas dan bawah, lalu sebiji panhard rod melintang menjaga gerak menyamping si axle, total 5 link. CMIIW om.

Provocative mode: ON.

Sumpah, belakangnya ancur banget tampangnya ni mobil. :mrgreen: Bagusan Luxio ke mana2 heheheheeeeeeeeee............
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Nightster Guy wrote:Soal leaf spring bisa nyaman karena bobot berat, yup terbukti pada CJ-7 versus Katana, jauh. Padahal spring ratenya masih rendahan Katana, dasar bodinya aja terlalu enteng.

Saya pernah baca, bila coil spring versus leaf spring dengan spring rate yang sama dipasang di mobil berbobot sama, tetep nyamanan coil. Susah ngejelasin logika teknisnya. Help.

Evalia ini RWD yak? Kirain FWD hehehe gak ngikutin.

Om Sapimelet, torsion beam keknya sama aja ama five link nya ala Taruna gitu yak? Ada 2 link megang masing2 sisi axle atas dan bawah, lalu sebiji panhard rod melintang menjaga gerak menyamping si axle, total 5 link. CMIIW om.

Provocative mode: ON.

Sumpah, belakangnya ancur banget tampangnya ni mobil. :mrgreen: Bagusan Luxio ke mana2 heheheheeeeeeeeee............
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Nampaknya, Evalia ini FWD deh om... :e-think: :e-think:
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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EVALIA FWD OM jadi nggak ada gardannya.

Ya hampir sama. cuma 5 link rigid axle itu adalah link2 spt gambar:
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Kalo FWD, berarti axle belakangnya Eva Arnaz ini persis ama Katana Feroza yak om2? Rigid axle hanya buat nopang ban aja, plus leaf.
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Nightster Guy wrote:Kalo FWD, berarti axle belakangnya Eva Arnaz ini persis ama Katana Feroza yak om2? Rigid axle hanya buat nopang ban aja, plus leaf.
Katana ama Feroza kan RWD om...?
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Ooh, maksudna, axle depan ya? Ya kira2 begitulah..
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Di iklan tipi, dishoot dari atas, makin kliatan tuh jok tepos banget, tipis kek roti tawar, persis jok belakang FJ40. Interior plain. Blom tau built qualitynya.

Ngirit ongkos bahan wkwkwkwkwkw....... :wkkk: Tapi fitur safetynya memang di atas AvXen yak?
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Maap tp rasa saya, ini tipe bawah mau mkn pangsa apv,tipe atas mencoba mengganggu sedikit pasaran si sejuta umat. Cm problemnya apa g malah menjadi bumerang bagi NMI neh. Secara mereka cukup bagus dgn positioning GL sebenarnya IMO. Para marketer NMI kudu berkerja keras saya rasa.
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Kmren" sy nyari2in seluk beluk ttg GL krn sy nyaranin emak&babeh utk beli GL matic, Nah skrg pas evalia lahir babeh ane malah kepicut sm nih mobil baby serena katanya pngen TD beliau.. \(≧o≦)/ Tidaakk...!
Gmn yah om/momods baek'a, secara ane krg sreg sm ini mbil...? (╥﹏╥)
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no comment dehh ane ttg ini si eva arnas... wong GL aja sebenernya kaga ane saranin... apalagi si eva arnas yg masi blom smpet ane cobain...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Waduhh Racun'a sereem amat om.. Hii (۳º̩̩́_º̩̩̀)۳ (˚﹏˚)
jadi galau ane nyari mobil mpv max 200jt yg cocok. (˘̩̩̩╭╮˘̩ƪ)
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Dino_lowrider wrote:EVALIA FWD OM jadi nggak ada gardannya.

Ya hampir sama. cuma 5 link rigid axle itu adalah link2 spt gambar:
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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jadi, dalam hal tampilan exterior maupun suspensi, lebih bagus Luxio ?
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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ternyata hari ini ada yg jual mobil fwd monokok dengan suspensi rigid + leaf spring....... kacaww..... bang gay biasanya demen nih sama yg rigid axle + leaf spring.......
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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JESKONENG wrote:jadi, dalam hal tampilan exterior maupun suspensi, lebih bagus Luxio ?
Tampilan eksterior, yang namanya 'desain' akan dipersepsikan sangat variatif antar person, IMHO, om Jes.... :) Ada yang bilang bagus, biasa2 aja, atau jelek.

Tapi, mostly bilang si Eva Arnaz ini ugly hihihihihi............... Apalagi pantatnya.

Soal suspensi, lagi2 teori kadang gak nyambung ama realita. Soal dia leaf spring akan kurang nyaman, biarlah nanti seiring dengan si Eva Arnaz bergulingan di jalan, pantat2 orang udah cobain dia, baru akan terjawab dengan riil soal kenyamanannya, apakah sesuai ato malah antitesis dari teori.

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ak4ng wrote:ternyata hari ini ada yg jual mobil fwd monokok dengan suspensi rigid + leaf spring....... kacaww..... bang gay biasanya demen nih sama yg rigid axle + leaf spring.......
Iya, konstruksi gituan ane demen, tough. Tapiiiii, bodinya jelas sama sekali jauh dari tipe ane K4ng...... Mbayangin ane naek Eva Arnaz aja udah nitemare.

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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Btw om NG eva arnas mksd'a apa ya?
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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Evalia, sist...... :mky_01: Biasalah, anak forum otomotif kalo ngasih nick sebuah mobil terkadang suka2 perut mereka ehehehehehe..........
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Terlalu banyak French influence di Evalia ini - jadinya quirky/aneh tampangnya.

Contoh

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Kalo kakaknya ini pure Japanese design (walaupun yg design beneran org apa gak tau)

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Re: Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012

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Mengenai mobil Prancis bertampang quirky, otomatis inget Renault Kangoo....... :mrgreen: Saking anehnya, lucu juga neh kalo dikoleksi saat iseng kelebihan duid.

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Plus sodaranya si Pug Partner.... :mrgreen:

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