Panther Users...! Part 2

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ricz wrote:Paling bagus utk saat ini yaitu swap 4JA1 non turbo, krn yg turbo selain mirip2 tenaganya ama yg non turbo, juga takutnya cepat rusak (apalagi setelah tau yg biasa make ni mbl cece ente yg makenya sruntulan)
Yap betul om,paling aman swap aja,kl pk yg aneh2,ntar yg ada ane yg di call terus,cerewet nya kumat.
Skrg lg gerilya cr mesin,skalian kumpulin dana..
Makasi om,tp tetep bimbingannya
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DOHC wrote:4ja1 mau pake turbo atau non turbo sehh kalo cuman 100 mahh bisa lahh... standard itu.. 120 aj ga susah2 amat...

cuman yg ane rasain sehh, biar kata 4ja1 skrg uda berturbo.. tetep mantan kucing ane 4ja1 panther kotak tetep lebi ajib buat diajak lari...
walopun sama2 mesin 4ja1, kotak lebih ngacir karena beda di settingan IP nya (plungger kotak lebih besar daripada kapsul turbo), gak ada nya catalytic dan EGR di kotak :mky_01:

HP nya juga lebih gede kotak daripada kapsul turbo, tapi kalau torsi gedean kapsul turbo

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ricz wrote:
danan32 wrote:
ricz wrote:Menurut nubietol, selama dimaintain dgn benar pasti gk rusak... Spt pake oli bagus, gk telat ganti oli / filter dkk, serta jgn langsung matikan mesin setelah digeber.... :mky_01:
Kl cuman ane yg make tu mobil,mesti inget lah,ga asal mati in kl da pk turbo,masalahnya yg make bancakan,asal make,apalagi cc ane,sll grasa-grusu...,td pg aja ban krg angin ttp dipake sampe bau angit...
Kalo ttp keukeuh mau pasang turbo, dan yg make sruntulan, wajib pake turbo timer... Meski mahal modulenya (1.5 juta) tp lumayan berguna apalagi kalo yg make sruntulan...

Tapi turbo ispan gk mantep, boostnya rendah, kalo mau kencang sekalian pake turbo aftermarket aja kalo tujuannya mau kencang...
turbo timer pasang di beres waktu itu cuma 400k um :mky_01:

turbo timer ini sebenernya wajib gak wajib.. sekarang rata2 mobil turbo juga udah gak ada turbo timernya :mky_02:

logikanya gini, kita habis kebut2 an (gas poool) kan gak mungkin langsung matiin mesin, pasti ada jeda dulu (masuk gang, masuk garasi atau parkirin mobil, baru deh matiin) :mky_02:

kecuali kalo pengemudi nya masi berpikiran kolot yang suka geber2 mesin sebelum dimatiin, baru deh wajib pasang turbo timer :mky_01:

btw, turbo bawaan kucing (IHI RHF5) sebenernya udah cukup ok kok, sayang aja boostnya kurang, tapi klo cuma mo nambahin boost ya tinggal ganjel aja wastegate nya pake per atau ring :mky_08:
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400 ribu ya? Soalnya yg gw tau turbo timer 1.5 juta, soalnya gw kemaren ditawarin pasang turbo timer di Ipah...
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ricz wrote:400 ribu ya? Soalnya yg gw tau turbo timer 1.5 juta, soalnya gw kemaren ditawarin pasang turbo timer di Ipah...
turbo timer bawaan isuzu sih :mky_01:
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Oh bawaan isuzu ya... Murah ya... Ato krn masi pake diesel konvensional?

Kalo menurut gue, kalo sendiri pake gk usah pake turbo timer, soalnya kan harus matiin lampu, AC, radio tape dll itu juga udh 1 menit, belum lg musti buka pagar rumah...

Tapi kalo buat mbl perang / yg pake kek cece om danan, harus pake... Soalnya kalo gaya pakenya kek gitu, dijamin turbo bakal rusak krn diabuse terus menerus...
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Td subuh,ane ktm cc,ane bilang tu mobil di pakein turbo ya,dan sblm ane jelasin fungsi turbo panther spt yg diblg suhu2 SM,cc ane lgsg "berkeluh kesah" dg kecepatan turbo...merepet...malah dlm 1x nafas bs panjang banget...
Jadi ane pikir,smntr sebisa mungkin rawat bener2 C223 mudah2an bs di rekondisi,kl ttp loyo di tanjakan terpaksa swap 4JA1,mo naik grade lg ya tgl templokin turbo.
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Buat suhu2 panther di SM,mohon maaf krn uda direpotkan,makasi banyak,saya bnyk belajar ttg panther di trit ini. Buat suhu2 panther domisili bali,minta rekomendasinya ttg bengkel diesel yg tokcer,krn sy buta banget dg teknis,bisanya cuman ankat tlp kl lg mogok ato utk maintenance.
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Join panther mania aja om www.panther-mania.org

Suhu" kucing smua ngumpul disitu tuh...
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ricz wrote:Join panther mania aja om http://www.panther-mania.org

Suhu" kucing smua ngumpul disitu tuh...
Dr kmrn uda mantau disana om,masi silent rider dl,
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Join disana aja, yg penting py kucing...
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ricz wrote:Join disana aja, yg penting py kucing...
Ok om,ntar malem saya join di PM,makasi bnyk om
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danan32 wrote:Td subuh,ane ktm cc,ane bilang tu mobil di pakein turbo ya,dan sblm ane jelasin fungsi turbo panther spt yg diblg suhu2 SM,cc ane lgsg "berkeluh kesah" dg kecepatan turbo...merepet...malah dlm 1x nafas bs panjang banget...
Jadi ane pikir,smntr sebisa mungkin rawat bener2 C223 mudah2an bs di rekondisi,kl ttp loyo di tanjakan terpaksa swap 4JA1,mo naik grade lg ya tgl templokin turbo.
kalo merasa loyo, pertama2 cek dulu trio filternya (filter udara, filter solar, filter oli)
check nosel, check juga Injection Pump nya :mky_02:

C223 bisa aja dipasang turbo, tapi jgn di set boost gede (max 0.7bar) internal C223 gak semantap kembarannya C223-T :mky_03:

tapi ada juga temen yg pake C223 ditambah turbo dengan boost gede, mantap banget tenaganya, sejauh ini sih oke2 aja katanya, tapi dia udah siap kalo suatu saat mesinnya jebol :mky_01:
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Kl trio filter rutin ganti om,malah terbilang rajin,tiap ganti oli,ganti smua,padahal jarak tempuh per hari g ada 20km,
Nah kl cek nosel,injection pump,slama ane megang,blum pernah,soalnya g tau month dibawa ke bengkel mana,pinginnya ikutin saran suhu disini macem purging,tp montir langganan g brani (bukan spesialis diesel)
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Kira2 brapa ya unit 4JA1 segelondong?
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danan32 wrote:Kira2 brapa ya unit 4JA1 segelondong?
kalo harga ane kurang tau deh, tapi kalo harganya gak beda jauh dengan 4JB1, mending ambil 4JB1 aja, torsi lebih mantaap :mky_08:
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Rakean wrote:
danan32 wrote:Kira2 brapa ya unit 4JA1 segelondong?
kalo harga ane kurang tau deh, tapi kalo harganya gak beda jauh dengan 4JB1, mending ambil 4JB1 aja, torsi lebih mantaap :mky_08:
4JB1 mesin mobil apa tu om?
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danan32 wrote:
Rakean wrote:
danan32 wrote:Kira2 brapa ya unit 4JA1 segelondong?
kalo harga ane kurang tau deh, tapi kalo harganya gak beda jauh dengan 4JB1, mending ambil 4JB1 aja, torsi lebih mantaap :mky_08:
4JB1 mesin mobil apa tu om?
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Walah...
Di rumah pny sodara yg piara jeep wagooner mesinnya elf,suara mantap khas travel. Getaran body nikmat,padal body jeep wagooner kan berat...bs di goyang jg ma tu mesin,kebayang body kecil panty dikasi mesin elf,kek mana goyangan nya tuh.
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danan32 wrote:Walah...
Di rumah pny sodara yg piara jeep wagooner mesinnya elf,suara mantap khas travel. Getaran body nikmat,padal body jeep wagooner kan berat...bs di goyang jg ma tu mesin,kebayang body kecil panty dikasi mesin elf,kek mana goyangan nya tuh.

goyangan kuat? engine mounting kurang ok?
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Kek nya gt om,kmrn nyoba tenaga elf,pertama start...walah..kok ya asepnya kayak suzuki truntung...jd ill fill,uda mesin dirubah,mesin pengganti ga dirawat,kasian image wagooner nya.
Body geter habis om,
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itu sih kek nya mesin kurang perawatan um, mesti nya mah 4JB1 oke tuh um :mky_01:
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broo.. ada yg tau nama part " Quardrant Box " di panther, parts ini bisa bener2 rusak gk sih ya ( ampe gak bisa oper gigi alias loss gtu ) ? apa cuman sekedar ganti seal nya aja kalo ud rembes ?
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panther ane setelah sekian lama minta jajan lagi nih.
1. ball joint bawah kiri kanan ( terakhir ganti inget pas masih kuliah kalo gak salah sekitar 2007 atau 2008 )
2. shock absorber ( sama juga terakhir ganti pas masih kuliah kalo gak salah sekitar 2007 / 2008 )
3. quadrant gear box, entah bisa ganti sealnya atau harus assy deh nih, rembes soalnya.
4. leaf spring belakang.
5. karet strut bar ( sama juga terakhir ganti pas masih kuliah kalo gak salah sekitar 2007 / 2008 )

untuk no 3 kyknya ane agak pending dulu aja deh, duluin yang 1,2,4 dan 5 dulu aja kali ya :mky_01:

oh ya kalau misalkan untuk yg no 1 ane mw pake yg merek 555, nomor 2, mahalan yg dus ISUZU apa yg merek kyk KAYABA gitu ya :e-think: , nomor 4. pake merek seadanya aj anti di tukang PER :mky_01: dan nomor 5 pake ORI ISUZU.
kira2 biaya yang dihabiskan berapa ya :e-doh: mudah2an gak mahal :e-pray:
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m4rio wrote:panther ane setelah sekian lama minta jajan lagi nih.
1. ball joint bawah kiri kanan ( terakhir ganti inget pas masih kuliah kalo gak salah sekitar 2007 atau 2008 )
2. shock absorber ( sama juga terakhir ganti pas masih kuliah kalo gak salah sekitar 2007 / 2008 )
3. quadrant gear box, entah bisa ganti sealnya atau harus assy deh nih, rembes soalnya.
4. leaf spring belakang.
5. karet strut bar ( sama juga terakhir ganti pas masih kuliah kalo gak salah sekitar 2007 / 2008 )

untuk no 3 kyknya ane agak pending dulu aja deh, duluin yang 1,2,4 dan 5 dulu aja kali ya :mky_01:

oh ya kalau misalkan untuk yg no 1 ane mw pake yg merek 555, nomor 2, mahalan yg dus ISUZU apa yg merek kyk KAYABA gitu ya :e-think: , nomor 4. pake merek seadanya aj anti di tukang PER :mky_01: dan nomor 5 pake ORI ISUZU.
kira2 biaya yang dihabiskan berapa ya :e-doh: mudah2an gak mahal :e-pray:
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