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Re: Innova Tak Lagi Boros di Tangan Innova Community

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gmx wrote:^^
iya ya, gw baru nyadar nih.. kenapa ya..
..Udah pernah di bahas disini kok.. mungkin karena kaki2 di install langsung di body. jadi getaran merambat masuk ; seolah2 kabin jadi ruang resonansi.
Mnurut gw, istilah bener2 senyap di sedan itu perasaan kok gak ada ya.. :mrgreen: meski E class sekalipun (Versi Taksi ).
Dari yg pernah naik (sbg penumpang), jalan 120 an di Tol, sedan yg bener2 minim suara ban cuma Renault Megane & Peugeot 407. VW Passat jg lumayan, tapi deru dieselnya bikin pusing di atas 140 Kpj.
Baru tahu jg ternyata suspensi Pug 407 bener2 sangat nyaman ; mitos suspensi Pug ternyata gak salah.. :mrgreen: :e-clap: jadi pengen coba 406 nih.. :big_smoking:
Tapi emang sih, jenis ban yg di pakai jg mempengaruhi..

Hihihi.. sorry OOT.. habis dari atas ribut terus tuh, para marketing Toyota & Honda.. mending gw selimur aja... :mrgreen:
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Abisnya gak ada yg jawab, gw khan pingin tau jg..drpd gw tulis " sundul dulu ato up up", mnding kek tadi aja khan? Agak2 ilmiaah dikit lah....he...he
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bisa aja nih pak abu2... :ungg:
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Nah khan bener ada hubnya dgn resonansi suara.

Om toyo, s40 senyap jg lho....kalo dalm kabin gak kedengaran apa2..gak terasa udah 160kpj...
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Kalo mobil2 yang berasa kalo speed untuk kenceng begitu..
Secara logikanya, IMHO bahaya sekali buat driver2 yang belum terlatih yah..
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Maksud bro rocks nya gak bersuara /senyap di kcptn tinggi?
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Selain tidak terdengar suara raungan mesin, juga kesan "Flat" saat high speed.. kan bahaya buat pengemudi yang tidak terlatih, ga sadar udah kenceng...
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Abu2 wrote:Nah khan bener ada hubnya dgn resonansi suara.
Om toyo, s40 senyap jg lho....kalo dalm kabin gak kedengaran apa2..gak terasa udah 160kpj...
Wah.. blom pernah coba Mas Abu.. jd gak bisa komen.. :mrgreen:
Kata temen yg udah pernah coba kuda jingkrak jg gitu.. tampang aja keren.. tapi sebenarnya di dalem berisik banget pas ngebut..

Paling senyap mungkin naik mobil, tutup pintu & korden, tapi diem aja gak usah jalan... halaahh.. :big_slap:
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Kalo sedan yg paling senyap yg saya pernah cobain duduk didalemnya sih Lexus LS.....nah itu bener2 senyap, tapi lama2 engga enak jg masa naik mobil engga kedengeran suara mesinnya hehehehe.....halah banyak banget maonya....... :mrgreen:
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bung risol, kalau di Lexus LS, diklakson motor kedengeran ga..?
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rocks wrote:bung risol, kalau di Lexus LS, diklakson motor kedengeran ga..?
hahaha.... gak pernah coba diklaksonin motor bro.....
lagian jg bukan mobil ane, cuma numpang duduk doang di dalem. Yg nyetirnya jg gak pernah pake klakson lagi jadi engga tau kalo klakson dipencet kedengeran gak bunyinya ke dalem (kayaknya sih kedengeran) :mrgreen:
Tapi yg pasti berasa banget level suara sebelum dan sesudah pintu ditutup semua, kayaknya di kabin hening sekali abis pintu ditutup.
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Memang harga itu ga bohong ya.. :big_smoking:
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Risol1 wrote:
rocks wrote:bung risol, kalau di Lexus LS, diklakson motor kedengeran ga..?
hahaha.... gak pernah coba diklaksonin motor bro.....
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Hahaha.. gw jg baru ngeh nih.. mana ada di sana motor bebek 100 CC main klakson & nyrondol2 minta jalan.. hahaha..
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bukan bung, maksud saya moge-moge sana.. at least mobil lain lahhh..
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nah itu masalah sasis monokok makanya new x-trail punya subframe buat kaki2 gak langsung ke bodi jadinya getaran sudah berkurang, makanya mo aplikasikan peredam semprot ke bodi nih....kira2 signifikan gak ya....kondisi sekarang s/d 120 km mesin gak kedengaran tapi suara gemuruh ban muncul dijalan yg gak mulus....
tapi ada juga pake ladder frame masih kedengaran gemuruh ban di kecepatan tinggi....avansa/xenia (peredaman kurang)
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kira2 solusi utk sasis monokok biar jangan terlalu brisik, yaitu di pakein karet yg agak tebel di bagian baut shock ke body mobil.... nah kira2 cara gt manjur ga yah buat mereduksi bunyi dan getaran nya ??
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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MitshuToyo wrote:Ngayal OOT.. Gw lagi bayangin Innova di kasih air sus. Wuihh, pasti enak banget..7 seater yg lega, punya chasis yg kokoh, CC jg kecil, pajak gak semahal SUV, tapi nyaman banget, spt bis malem atau malah Harrier airs.. boros dikit gak masalah lah.. Udah ada yg coba ? kira2 susah gak ya di install air suspension.. :mrgreen:

Body2 monocok cenderung berisik dr roda, mengganggu banget..
bisa dipasang air sus, ga masalah... justru yg masalah adalah harganya. sy mending punya innova std dan beli mobil 2nd dibanding beli air sus... hehe!

berisik di roda, karena getaran/vibrasi... biasanya diberi peredam di beberapa tempat, agar lebih nyaman.
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abrof wrote:nah itu masalah sasis monokok makanya new x-trail punya subframe buat kaki2 gak langsung ke bodi jadinya getaran sudah berkurang, makanya mo aplikasikan peredam semprot ke bodi nih....kira2 signifikan gak ya....kondisi sekarang s/d 120 km mesin gak kedengaran tapi suara gemuruh ban muncul dijalan yg gak mulus....
tapi ada juga pake ladder frame masih kedengaran gemuruh ban di kecepatan tinggi....avansa/xenia (peredaman kurang)
Avanza/Xenia monokok bro...kalo gak salah...
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GTR wrote:mungkin bukan melihat salahnya aja, sebenarnya sudah ditawarkan TAM dgn varian yg "lebih irit" di seri KD-FTV, tapi ini diesel.

Sebelumnya toyota sharing mesin untuk konfigurasi longitudinal maupun transverse lay-out use seperti engineering di mesin 3A, 4A s/d 3S series (seperti merk lain lakukan di page depan), memang kayanya ke depan toyota sudah tidak mau cara itu lagi bikin engineering buat 2 lay-out di mesin2nya.

nah untuk yg market bensin ini, Just wondering kalo aja mereka "mau" (& kalo produsen nya bisa), mesin2 semacam MPV voxy/noah/wish dgn longitudinal lay-out buat MPV innova yg bobot & kapasitas mesin nya pun hampir sama dengan pure passanger tsb, IMHO bisa jadi lebih baik ini buat keiritan innova.
FortunerMan wrote: Innova bukan pure MPV, karena tulangnya sebenernya light truck/commercial vehicle. Di jajaran Toyota di seluruh dunia, ada pembedaan aliran mesin SUV/commercial vehicles dengan pure passenger vehicles. Susah banget ya mengertinya kalo udah mau lihat salahnya aja :)
Berarti mereka udah gak mau kan...dan punya alasan yang mungkin anda tidak tahu, atau tidak mau tahu - even dengan reasoning yang sudah banyak dibeberkan dengan jelas. Tidak ada gunanya diulang ulang seperti kaset rusak di thread yang ditujukan buat improvement di existing Innova engine. Kalo ada yang nanya, "Ganti busi Innova supaya lebih irit apa ya"? Jawabnya bukan "Ganti mesin voxy/noah/wish aja" atau "GL lebih irit"

Tapi ya ini forum bebas, so terserah saja. Tapi semakin diulang ulang makin keliatan pula kalau ada yang bermotif aneh2. Mungkin kalo diulang ulang 100 kali, penjualan Innova akan berkurang?
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FortunerMan wrote:
abrof wrote:nah itu masalah sasis monokok makanya new x-trail punya subframe buat kaki2 gak langsung ke bodi jadinya getaran sudah berkurang, makanya mo aplikasikan peredam semprot ke bodi nih....kira2 signifikan gak ya....kondisi sekarang s/d 120 km mesin gak kedengaran tapi suara gemuruh ban muncul dijalan yg gak mulus....
tapi ada juga pake ladder frame masih kedengaran gemuruh ban di kecepatan tinggi....avansa/xenia (peredaman kurang)
Avanza/Xenia monokok bro...kalo gak salah...
Sori bro CMIIW kalo gak salah avanza xenia masih pake ladder frame bro, gak tau deh besok gue coba cari info
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Nggak kok..Avanza monokok...baru tak google bro. cocok kok, handlingnya di jalan kelok2 lebih OK dr Innova...yg basis truk.

http://rajamolor.blogspot.com/2008/06/t ... vanza.html

http://www.mobilmotor.co.id/news_detail.asp?id=1131
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FortunerMan wrote:Nggak kok..Avanza monokok...baru tak google bro. cocok kok, handlingnya di jalan kelok2 lebih OK dr Innova...yg basis truk.

http://rajamolor.blogspot.com/2008/06/t ... vanza.html

http://www.mobilmotor.co.id/news_detail.asp?id=1131
Thx u bro for ur info!!
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mau cerita, kemaren jalan2 ke kampung di lembang, ada pak haji yg punya innova 2005. ngobrol2... katanya irit banget, hanya tenaga nya kurang. mau diganti2 pake aneh2 takutnya malah boros...

me : ah, masa sih... apa yg mau diganti apa pak?
pak haji : karburator... (katanya...)
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dibukalah kap mesin nya, hmmm... mesinnya 3K, boooo....! :big_slap: :big_weee: :weekk:
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mesin apaan tuh bro poetic ??
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DOHC wrote:mesin apaan tuh bro poetic ??
kijang kotak sabun... 1290CC (1300CC dibuletin...) :big_peace:
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