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Mau tanya suhu2 disini kebetulan sudah menginjak tahun kedua pakai mark x yang digunakan rata2 pas weekend dan sekali2 pas weekday.

Sejauh ini pakai mark x overall puas tapi hati masih kepingin cari mobil lain yang fun to drive dan berhubung sebelumnya pakai
mobil manual jd tetep aja feelingnya beda.

Ada 2 opsi sepertinya

1st option: Tukar mark x dgn mobil lain:
1. Budget max 400-500 jt an
2. Tahun lebih muda drpd mark x atau 2012 up
3. Prefer mobil sedan 4 door dan jgn pendek2 amat bikin repot
4. Jgn ada part spt i.e. adaptive suspension yg bikin pusing :big_peace:
5. Manual atau matic yang responsif (i.e. dsg)
6. Rencana akan di keep stock atau lightly modified

Yang sejauh ini kepikiran:
1. Golf GTI (MK7) - Harusnya wet dsg aman, sisanya buta soal parts & maintenance cost. Concern cuman karena ada electronic damper/ DCC
(CMIIW) yg ga sesuai poin 4 jadinya hehe sisanya sih mantep. Klo Scirocco R sekarang sepertinya uda diluar budget.
2. Mazda 6 Estate (Facelift)- Demen modelnya tapi balik lagi tenaga dibawah mark x

Less considered:
1. Subaru wrx sti - Pernah coba sih enak tapi kalau pas butuh hari biasa bawa macet cape juga. Baca2 disini jg isu ngelitik ya.
2. Inline 6 bmw, sempat tertarik x3 35i (2011) tapi pas tes drive unitnya berubah pikiran takut moneypit jg :big_peace:

2nd option: Keep mark x dan tambah fun car budget 100-200 jt an
Yang sejauh ini kepikiran cmn Swift Sport manual ya, tapi belum pernah coba.
Less considered: e36 323i M/T, minat sih tapi pengalaman punya motuba german cape ngebengkel dan abis banyak jd uda ga semangat lg
:big_cry:

Any suggestions welcome, thank you
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subaru oke, tp gatau sih apa ganti busi masih harus turun mesin wkwk
vw golf gti oke, mobil kenceng kl mau di oprek gampang bgt

bmw 335i aja om kalo ada sih, 330i/328i juga cukup, tinggal ubah coilover kl ga mau pusing adaptive suspension. 330i/328i 300hp zaman skrg udh gampang. 335i 450hp juga gampang.

400 jt bisa dapet audi a6 3.0 quattro juga, modal 50 jtan udah bs stage 2+/3 mepet 500hp, 0-100 jd 4 detikan.

cuma kalo masih mikir jd moneypit yaa.. semua diatas parts nya mahal2 atuh wkwk

kalo ga, mark x tambah vw golf gti mk v
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Kalo mau mobil fun to drive asik asik banyak parts modifan , tp kagak diperbudak mobil bisa coba civic turbo hatch (seken) .

Mic nya coba digeser dulu lah ke yg pelihara honda :mrgreen:
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Re: Need advice: Weekend car

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KielConstantine wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:16 Kalo mau mobil fun to drive asik asik banyak parts modifan , tp kagak diperbudak mobil bisa coba civic turbo hatch (seken) .

Mic nya coba digeser dulu lah ke yg pelihara honda :mrgreen:
klo oonda pasti pasti aja gans,


type r,manual redline resing,vtak kik in yo,

klo cvt makan ati gans,bukan di perbudak,



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KielConstantine wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:16 Kalo mau mobil fun to drive asik asik banyak parts modifan , tp kagak diperbudak mobil bisa coba civic turbo hatch (seken) .

Mic nya coba digeser dulu lah ke yg pelihara honda :mrgreen:
Ini cocok....

TSnya mau yang easy maintain, bisa dipake harian tapi tetep enak ini salah satu jawabannya sih.

Note kalo gak alergi CVT ya. Tapi kalau dari markX sih gak malu maluin.

Part modif jg banyak tiap taun nambah aja biar gak bosen.
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Vote nambah swift sport manual aja om, barangnya lucu langka dan manual, BQ CBU Jepun sama semoga harganya lumayan nahan :mky_03:
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farizfsa wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:54 subaru oke, tp gatau sih apa ganti busi masih harus turun mesin wkwk
vw golf gti oke, mobil kenceng kl mau di oprek gampang bgt

bmw 335i aja om kalo ada sih, 330i/328i juga cukup, tinggal ubah coilover kl ga mau pusing adaptive suspension. 330i/328i 300hp zaman skrg udh gampang. 335i 450hp juga gampang.

400 jt bisa dapet audi a6 3.0 quattro juga, modal 50 jtan udah bs stage 2+/3 mepet 500hp, 0-100 jd 4 detikan.

cuma kalo masih mikir jd moneypit yaa.. semua diatas parts nya mahal2 atuh wkwk

kalo ga, mark x tambah vw golf gti mk v
Krn udh pernah pake f30 jaman2 awal dl, jd kpingin coba yg lain nih om
Tapi ya dulu yg 4 cyl bs di tune sih emang tapi gmn2 emg ga boong yg inline 6 mantep

Klo udah out of warranty cmn takut kepikiran aja krn blm ada pengalaman sm f30 diluar warranty.

KielConstantine wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:16 Kalo mau mobil fun to drive asik asik banyak parts modifan , tp kagak diperbudak mobil bisa coba civic turbo hatch (seken) .

Mic nya coba digeser dulu lah ke yg pelihara honda :mrgreen:
Ini cocok....

TSnya mau yang easy maintain, bisa dipake harian tapi tetep enak ini salah satu jawabannya sih.

Note kalo gak alergi CVT ya. Tapi kalau dari markX sih gak malu maluin.

Part modif jg banyak tiap taun nambah aja biar gak bosen.
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Not a fan of CVT jujur om tapi balik lg belum pernah bawa CVT honda kalau civic HB.
Emg gmn2 mesti coba dulu bawa sih baru kerasa ya cocok ndaknya.
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Maaf sptnya double post om, mohon di delete aja, thank you
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Maaf sptnya double post om, mohon di delete aja, thank you
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Devourer wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 12:56 Not a fan of CVT jujur om tapi balik lg belum pernah bawa CVT honda kalau civic HB.
Emg gmn2 mesti coba dulu bawa sih baru kerasa ya cocok ndaknya.
Nah dicoba dulu aja :mky_03: emang msh ada rasa cvtnya sih gak bisa ilang.

Cm kalo bukan yang tipe nyetir WOT dari diem, lbh sering rolling sih gak terlalu berasa kok. Kyk AT biasa aja.

Kalau gak cocok, ya VW GTI MK7 aja. VW paling sensor ABS lah kena :big_weee: :mky_03:
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City HB manual aja om...kurang kenceng tinggal pasang turbo aja
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Devourer wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:29 Mau tanya suhu2 disini kebetulan sudah menginjak tahun kedua pakai mark x yang digunakan rata2 pas weekend dan sekali2 pas weekday.

Sejauh ini pakai mark x overall puas tapi hati masih kepingin cari mobil lain yang fun to drive dan berhubung sebelumnya pakai
mobil manual jd tetep aja feelingnya beda.

Ada 2 opsi sepertinya

1st option: Tukar mark x dgn mobil lain:
1. Budget max 400-500 jt an
2. Tahun lebih muda drpd mark x atau 2012 up
3. Prefer mobil sedan 4 door dan jgn pendek2 amat bikin repot
4. Jgn ada part spt i.e. adaptive suspension yg bikin pusing :big_peace:
5. Manual atau matic yang responsif (i.e. dsg)
6. Rencana akan di keep stock atau lightly modified

Yang sejauh ini kepikiran:
1. Golf GTI (MK7) - Harusnya wet dsg aman, sisanya buta soal parts & maintenance cost. Concern cuman karena ada electronic damper/ DCC
(CMIIW) yg ga sesuai poin 4 jadinya hehe sisanya sih mantep. Klo Scirocco R sekarang sepertinya uda diluar budget.
2. Mazda 6 Estate (Facelift)- Demen modelnya tapi balik lagi tenaga dibawah mark x

Less considered:
1. Subaru wrx sti - Pernah coba sih enak tapi kalau pas butuh hari biasa bawa macet cape juga. Baca2 disini jg isu ngelitik ya.
2. Inline 6 bmw, sempat tertarik x3 35i (2011) tapi pas tes drive unitnya berubah pikiran takut moneypit jg :big_peace:

2nd option: Keep mark x dan tambah fun car budget 100-200 jt an
Yang sejauh ini kepikiran cmn Swift Sport manual ya, tapi belum pernah coba.
Less considered: e36 323i M/T, minat sih tapi pengalaman punya motuba german cape ngebengkel dan abis banyak jd uda ga semangat lg
:big_cry:

Any suggestions welcome, thank you
kalo saya vote mazda 6 estate, desainnya cakep + perawatannya juga masih cukup wajar buat ukuran mobil jepang walaupun agak malah buat kelasnya + cukup durable juga , dan juga sesuai kriteria hehehe, kalo mau opsi pertama. kalo opsi kedua, bisa lirik ge8 rs manual last fl 2013-2014 atau mazda 2 sky R manual walaupun populasinya lumayan langka hehehe
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Nubie ijin nimbrung ya

Ane vote golf GTI, kencank, gantenk, tapi ya gitu, namanya juga VW, eropaan. Sabar2 aja kalo mobilnya ngambekan, esp sensor2. Mesin + DCT nya sih setau saya reliabel bgt

M6 estate no comment blom perna naik

Opsi lain sih saya setuju sama om2 penboy honda diatas (secara saya penboy honda juga) civic turbo FC/FK duaduanya enak buat daily or weekend, ganteng pol (bagi saya), light tune 200hp++ merem. Cvt nya kalo bawa daily kaya bawa mobil metik pada umumnya sih, plus irit euy wkwkwkwkwk bengkel honda juga dimana mana gampang maintenance, namanya jejepangan begini dibanding eropaan secara maintainnya jauh lebih enak

Lalu F30 kalo udah pernah punya trus mau beli lagi ga akan pernah salah om. Prefer 328/335 sama peratiin maintenance esp timing chainnya. Bmw 3 series never fails kecuali e90 wkwkwkwkwkwkwk

Sisanya no comment blom perna coba dan kurang menarik (bagi saya)
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Scirocco R ga dapet ya? Kalo memang untuk weekend car kenapa ga coba coupe om? Kayaknya bisa dapet C250 atau E250 coupe yg basisnya W204 atau W207 deh.
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Chevyman wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 14:32 City HB manual aja om...kurang kenceng tinggal pasang turbo aja
:big_biglaugh:


nakal nih si om,

duit gede,

redline bentar meleduk,minimal CE,ngaspolll pake perasaan, aliran siksa diri dah,



dibikin babu mobil dan tuner modif terlalu jauh,


mending beli type r aja,

yang baru lagi develop nurbuging kynya,msh selubung lama,

semoga aja rekor baru,



tagline,


Type R's only rival is Type R, :big_love:


fun drive yang pasti aja,

kt teman,


:ngacir:
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vanosz wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 22:46
Chevyman wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 14:32 City HB manual aja om...kurang kenceng tinggal pasang turbo aja
:big_biglaugh:


nakal nih si om,

duit gede,

redline bentar meleduk,minimal CE,ngaspolll pake perasaan, aliran siksa diri dah,



dibikin babu mobil dan tuner modif terlalu jauh,


mending beli type r aja,

yang baru lagi develop nurbuging kynya,msh selubung lama,

semoga aja rekor baru,



tagline,


Type R's only rival is Type R, :big_love:


fun drive yang pasti aja,

kt teman,


:ngacir:
Nah ini dia om, kenapa sy consider keep mark x takutnya gonta ganti mobil lg ga puas ntar ujung2nya nulis trit gini lagi :big_biglaugh:
Toh gmn2 ganti mobil pengeluaran lg, mending nahan dl sampe kebeli yg bener2 wishlist sy kyk Type R ini.
kendibocor wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 17:15 Scirocco R ga dapet ya? Kalo memang untuk weekend car kenapa ga coba coupe om? Kayaknya bisa dapet C250 atau E250 coupe yg basisnya W204 atau W207 deh.
Udah 600++ om sekarang yg jual rata2 apalagi klo mau yg biru
Nah klo mercy coupe kurang cocok sm karakter sy bawa mobil masih seruntulan :big_childish:
Bener2 mobil cruising aja mercy gini

2 pintu lainnya rata2 sempit, pernah bawa mx5 sm 86 kurang nyaman berasa claustro

marr wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 16:21 Nubie ijin nimbrung ya

Ane vote golf GTI, kencank, gantenk, tapi ya gitu, namanya juga VW, eropaan. Sabar2 aja kalo mobilnya ngambekan, esp sensor2. Mesin + DCT nya sih setau saya reliabel bgt

M6 estate no comment blom perna naik

Opsi lain sih saya setuju sama om2 penboy honda diatas (secara saya penboy honda juga) civic turbo FC/FK duaduanya enak buat daily or weekend, ganteng pol (bagi saya), light tune 200hp++ merem. Cvt nya kalo bawa daily kaya bawa mobil metik pada umumnya sih, plus irit euy wkwkwkwkwk bengkel honda juga dimana mana gampang maintenance, namanya jejepangan begini dibanding eropaan secara maintainnya jauh lebih enak

Lalu F30 kalo udah pernah punya trus mau beli lagi ga akan pernah salah om. Prefer 328/335 sama peratiin maintenance esp timing chainnya. Bmw 3 series never fails kecuali e90 wkwkwkwkwkwkwk

Sisanya no comment blom perna coba dan kurang menarik (bagi saya)
Nah ini dia om klo eropa2an pasti gmn2 ada aja, honda sih mesti coba dulu ya.
Chevyman wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 14:32 City HB manual aja om...kurang kenceng tinggal pasang turbo aja
Ini klo opini sy mending swift sport ya, meskipun lebih tua tp gmn2 ada pedigree hot hatch dr bawaan
Meskipun swift sport bener2 entry level di kelas hot hatch hehe.

tapi emg di yutub asik jg pd lg rame city HB buat balap
Pboyz97 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 14:35
kalo saya vote mazda 6 estate, desainnya cakep + perawatannya juga masih cukup wajar buat ukuran mobil jepang walaupun agak malah buat kelasnya + cukup durable juga , dan juga sesuai kriteria hehehe, kalo mau opsi pertama. kalo opsi kedua, bisa lirik ge8 rs manual last fl 2013-2014 atau mazda 2 sky R manual walaupun populasinya lumayan langka hehehe
Harusny estate cukup durable ya gmn2 mazda 6 dipake polisi hehe.
Pernah punya mazda 2 sky sblmnya enak sih lumayan fun to drive tp balik lg ini lebih ke arah mobil sehari2 ya
Selama pake sy bener2 keep standar ting2 sih meskipun emg bnyk godaan modif.
ChZ wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 13:25
Nah dicoba dulu aja :mky_03: emang msh ada rasa cvtnya sih gak bisa ilang.

Cm kalo bukan yang tipe nyetir WOT dari diem, lbh sering rolling sih gak terlalu berasa kok. Kyk AT biasa aja.

Kalau gak cocok, ya VW GTI MK7 aja. VW paling sensor ABS lah kena :big_weee: :mky_03:
Nah ini dia mesti coba sih gmn2 cvt honda at least ada simulated shiftingnya
Kalo mark x masuk manual mode boro2 naik turun ganti gigi, wong cmn top gear limiter itu dari bawaan :big_cry:
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Devourer wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:55
Nah ini dia om, kenapa sy consider keep mark x takutnya gonta ganti mobil lg ga puas ntar ujung2nya nulis trit gini lagi :big_biglaugh:
Toh gmn2 ganti mobil pengeluaran lg, mending nahan dl sampe kebeli yg bener2 wishlist sy kyk Type R ini.
Kalo bisa sabar sih emang mending tahan dlu aja om sampe celengan cukup buat beli yg bener2 om mau. Asal tabungan nambahnya bisa melewati inflasi, soalnya feeling ane kok bakalan inflasi gila2an dan harga mobil akan naik ya mau baru maupun bekas.
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kendibocor wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:01
Kalo bisa sabar sih emang mending tahan dlu aja om sampe celengan cukup buat beli yg bener2 om mau. Asal tabungan nambahnya bisa melewati inflasi, soalnya feeling ane kok bakalan inflasi gila2an dan harga mobil akan naik ya mau baru maupun bekas.
Nah agree om sy rasa ini wise decision ya untuk keep mark x, mungkin biar semangat in the meantime pelan2 modif. :mky_01:
Agree on inflasi om, emg kudu makin rajin
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vanosz wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 22:46
Chevyman wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 14:32 City HB manual aja om...kurang kenceng tinggal pasang turbo aja
:big_biglaugh:


nakal nih si om,

duit gede,

redline bentar meleduk,minimal CE,ngaspolll pake perasaan, aliran siksa diri dah,



dibikin babu mobil dan tuner modif terlalu jauh,


mending beli type r aja,

yang baru lagi develop nurbuging kynya,msh selubung lama,

semoga aja rekor baru,



tagline,


Type R's only rival is Type R, :big_love:


fun drive yang pasti aja,

kt teman,


:ngacir:
Ampun hu...nubie melipir aja....
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Weleh.. topik berat.. berhubung mobil cuman jadi kaki, ane brondok aja..
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Devourer wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:55

Harusny estate cukup durable ya gmn2 mazda 6 dipake polisi hehe.
Pernah punya mazda 2 sky sblmnya enak sih lumayan fun to drive tp balik lg ini lebih ke arah mobil sehari2 ya
Selama pake sy bener2 keep standar ting2 sih meskipun emg bnyk godaan modif.

memang cukup durable om, kebetulan saya dulu pernah make yg versi SUV nya, cx5 elite, dari 2018 - dijual akhir 2021 lalu di km 43 rb gaada masalah yg aneh2
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Pboyz97 wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 14:03
Devourer wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:55

Harusny estate cukup durable ya gmn2 mazda 6 dipake polisi hehe.
Pernah punya mazda 2 sky sblmnya enak sih lumayan fun to drive tp balik lg ini lebih ke arah mobil sehari2 ya
Selama pake sy bener2 keep standar ting2 sih meskipun emg bnyk godaan modif.

memang cukup durable om, kebetulan saya dulu pernah make yg versi SUV nya, cx5 elite, dari 2018 - dijual akhir 2021 lalu di km 43 rb gaada masalah yg aneh2
Harusnya awet ya krn mesin dll sama persis, bs jadi pertimbangan. Sejauh ini pengalaman sama mazda sih ga pernah mengecewakan (mobilnya) :big_biglaugh:
In the meantime, mau coba liat2 and td dulu kira" cocok yg mana
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Re: Need advice: Weekend car

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Devourer wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:19

Harusnya awet ya krn mesin dll sama persis, bs jadi pertimbangan. Sejauh ini pengalaman sama mazda sih ga pernah mengecewakan (mobilnya) :big_biglaugh:
In the meantime, mau coba liat2 and td dulu kira" cocok yg mana
iya oom, apalagi di jakarta partnya cukup mudah karena beresnya banyak yg bisa nanganin, walaupun ya memang in some case harus inden aprtsnya hehehe. saya juga oom , cukup puas make mazda. dulu pernah miara CX5 2013 gen 1 sampe dijual tahun 2019 di km 152rb gaada masalah yg aneh2, kemudian juga pernah miara CX5 2018 gen 2 sampe dijual akhir 2021 di km 43 rb jg gaada masalah yg aneh2 hehehe
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'13 CX5
'17 Xpander
'19 Yaris
'18 CX5
'18 ANF 2GD
'18 HRV
'18 ANKI 2GD
'19 CRV
'14 GNKI 1TR
'22 brio
'18 RX300
'18 ANPS
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Re: Need advice: Weekend car

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Pboyz97 wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 15:41
Devourer wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:19

Harusnya awet ya krn mesin dll sama persis, bs jadi pertimbangan. Sejauh ini pengalaman sama mazda sih ga pernah mengecewakan (mobilnya) :big_biglaugh:
In the meantime, mau coba liat2 and td dulu kira" cocok yg mana
iya oom, apalagi di jakarta partnya cukup mudah karena beresnya banyak yg bisa nanganin, walaupun ya memang in some case harus inden aprtsnya hehehe. saya juga oom , cukup puas make mazda. dulu pernah miara CX5 2013 gen 1 sampe dijual tahun 2019 di km 152rb gaada masalah yg aneh2, kemudian juga pernah miara CX5 2018 gen 2 sampe dijual akhir 2021 di km 43 rb jg gaada masalah yg aneh2 hehehe
Bukannya om @Pboyz97 pernah cerita CX5 2018 43rb KM nya pernah ganti suspensi ya?
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Re: Need advice: Weekend car

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gadjahalphien wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:15

Bukannya om @Pboyz97 pernah cerita CX5 2018 43rb KM nya pernah ganti suspensi ya?
ganti shock belakang kiri kanan aja, sisanya fine2 aja, cuma servis rutin dan ganti oli aja. maksud saya gaada masalah yg aneh2 itu gaada masalah dibagian mesin, transmisi or elektrikal, hanya ke penggantian parts yg memang harusnya diganti akibat pemakaian hehehe. shocknya juga ganti karena rute yg dilewati sering hajar poldur dan cukup sering lewat jalan berlobang, karena mobil hampir tiap hari dipake jkt - depok- bogor PP hehehe
Past:
'09 GE8
'10 CRV RE
'13 CX5
'17 Xpander
'19 Yaris
'18 CX5
'18 ANF 2GD
'18 HRV
'18 ANKI 2GD
'19 CRV
'14 GNKI 1TR
'22 brio
'18 RX300
'18 ANPS
Now:
'23 voxy
'23 BRV
'23 HRV