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Re: X5 Diesel atau Bensin

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Waduuuh . . .pake mobil sekelas X5 masih mikirin bensin irit . . . . hehehehe

kalo bakal sering dibawa keliling Jawa yg belum merata distribusi Pertadex nya sih mending ambil yg bensin . . .senyap . . powerfull.
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g4ndalf wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:59 Varian m sport nggak ada entertainment system di belakang. Bedanya di bodykit, exhaust, panel aluminium, sama setir m sport, suspensi sama aja cmiiw. M sport udah gak dijual lagi, cmiiw again, kalah laku sama x-line.
setau ane sih masih, cbu kalo ga salah, jd bisa minta option ini itu, tp harganya jd pbo
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fizrmen wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:44
g4ndalf wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:59 Varian m sport nggak ada entertainment system di belakang. Bedanya di bodykit, exhaust, panel aluminium, sama setir m sport, suspensi sama aja cmiiw. M sport udah gak dijual lagi, cmiiw again, kalah laku sama x-line.
setau ane sih masih, cbu kalo ga salah, jd bisa minta option ini itu, tp harganya jd pbo
X5 skd (semi knock down, istilah bmw utk ckd). Makanya harga competitive. Yg bensin 3000cc turbo 4wd, bandingin dengan harga rx200t - 2000cc fwd. X5 di 1.5m vs rx200t di 1.3m (kalo blm naik).

Utk option bisa tapi masuknya ke bmw individual order, harga bisa naik drastis. Misal pengen sound system bang olufsen, dll. Ada yg pesan itu tapi harganya fantastis... not worth it. Imho, mending di variasi sendiri.
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farizfsa wrote:
civic2010 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 0:30 X3 sempit bro.
Hmm diesel deh kalo gitu. Hehe thanks all

Comments nya menguatkan gw pada diesel.
Beda entertainment, paddle shift, velg aja (spt nya) beda 100jt++
Btw, resale value utk diesel vs bensin bgmn ya?
dan perawatannya lbh mudah mana ya?
Logika nya tetep ke diesel dong ya.
Liat aja resale value 520d vs 520i f10 tinggian mana

Masi tinggian 520d

Tp harus inget ini diesel cuma bisa dan boleh dex, kl ga mampu dan males ribet cr dex beli yg bensin aja
ada teman yg bilang sebenarnya dex juga kualitasnya belum sesuai requirement diesel bmw ?
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Ga tau deh, info BMW justru blg hrs DEX kalo kepepet blh Diesel nya Shell
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greyrevolver wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:52
farizfsa wrote:
civic2010 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 0:30 X3 sempit bro.
Hmm diesel deh kalo gitu. Hehe thanks all

Comments nya menguatkan gw pada diesel.
Beda entertainment, paddle shift, velg aja (spt nya) beda 100jt++
Btw, resale value utk diesel vs bensin bgmn ya?
dan perawatannya lbh mudah mana ya?
Logika nya tetep ke diesel dong ya.
Liat aja resale value 520d vs 520i f10 tinggian mana

Masi tinggian 520d

Tp harus inget ini diesel cuma bisa dan boleh dex, kl ga mampu dan males ribet cr dex beli yg bensin aja
ada teman yg bilang sebenarnya dex juga kualitasnya belum sesuai requirement diesel bmw ?
mm pernyataan temen um ga make sense sih.. karena kalo emg dex ga comply sama diesel bmw mereka ga akan terus lanjutin yg ujungnya banyak complaint dan masalah di kemudian hari

kalo shell total diesel emg ga comply itu juga udah dikasi tau sebelumnya

lg pula ya kita kan ga punya yg lebih bagus dr dex..
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Hanggar wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:41 Waduuuh . . .pake mobil sekelas X5 masih mikirin bensin irit . . . . hehehehe

kalo bakal sering dibawa keliling Jawa yg belum merata distribusi Pertadex nya sih mending ambil yg bensin . . .senyap . . powerfull.
Ya mungkin karena pemrataan dex didaerah2 masih kurang

Tp bukannya dipombensin2 pelosok pun dex sdh dijual dalam jeriken?
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btw x5 udh idrive 6.0 belom ya?
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marr wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 btw x5 udh idrive 6.0 belom ya?
Nik 17 dst sudah... yg belum bisa di upgrade juga, cuma touch screen nya ttp ga bisa.
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farizfsa wrote:
greyrevolver wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:52
farizfsa wrote: Liat aja resale value 520d vs 520i f10 tinggian mana

Masi tinggian 520d

Tp harus inget ini diesel cuma bisa dan boleh dex, kl ga mampu dan males ribet cr dex beli yg bensin aja
ada teman yg bilang sebenarnya dex juga kualitasnya belum sesuai requirement diesel bmw ?
mm pernyataan temen um ga make sense sih.. karena kalo emg dex ga comply sama diesel bmw mereka ga akan terus lanjutin yg ujungnya banyak complaint dan masalah di kemudian hari

kalo shell total diesel emg ga comply itu juga udah dikasi tau sebelumnya

lg pula ya kita kan ga punya yg lebih bagus dr dex..
Iya c Om, logikanya gak mungkin, karena bisa backfire ke bmw sendiri kalau banyak complaint. Tapi kalau baca di internet dex saat ini kandungan sulfurnya 300ppm dan requirement dari bmw diesel dibawah itu. Atau mungkin spec bmw diesel di indonesia beda dari negara lain?
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BMW diesel di indonesia, euro 3 spec.

Memang bisa minum solar up to 300ppm karena dex adalah euro 3 compliant.

Ga ada masalah kalau beli mobil mahal mikir irit bensin.

Diluar diesel banyak untuk mobil kelas 2 ton keatas, bukan hanya cari irit, tapi cari torsi..
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civic2010 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:21 Ga tau deh, info BMW justru blg hrs DEX kalo kepepet blh Diesel nya Shell
Yakin diesel bmw boleh pake dieselnya shell?
Bmw dan merc di indo mewajibkan pakai dex dan sy ga pernah denger "kalo kepepet boleh yg lain"
Tapi gatau ya kalau skr kebijakan mereka gimana, udh ga pegang diesel jerman lagi
Kalau sy salah koreksi aja hehe
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Kata sales bmw hmmm mestinya seh bawa nama bmw yaa hehr
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g4ndalf wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 18:33
marr wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 btw x5 udh idrive 6.0 belom ya?
Nik 17 dst sudah... yg belum bisa di upgrade juga, cuma touch screen nya ttp ga bisa.
ooh ok thx om infonya
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Tats wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:16
civic2010 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:21 Ga tau deh, info BMW justru blg hrs DEX kalo kepepet blh Diesel nya Shell
Yakin diesel bmw boleh pake dieselnya shell?
Bmw dan merc di indo mewajibkan pakai dex dan sy ga pernah denger "kalo kepepet boleh yg lain"
Tapi gatau ya kalau skr kebijakan mereka gimana, udh ga pegang diesel jerman lagi
Kalau sy salah koreksi aja hehe
shell udah ndak boleh, ada surat dr bmw kok bagi pemegang bmw diesel, kalo mercy dr awal emg udh ga boleh

lgan pain isi shell total diesel harga juga sama2 kaya pertadex
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vp920b wrote:BMW diesel di indonesia, euro 3 spec.

Memang bisa minum solar up to 300ppm karena dex adalah euro 3 compliant.

Ga ada masalah kalau beli mobil mahal mikir irit bensin.

Diluar diesel banyak untuk mobil kelas 2 ton keatas, bukan hanya cari irit, tapi cari torsi..
Thanks Om untuk infonya , btw ada linknya mengenai informasi ini gak Om? Saya mau kasih lihat ke temen saya..
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g4ndalf wrote:
marr wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 btw x5 udh idrive 6.0 belom ya?
Nik 17 dst sudah... yg belum bisa di upgrade juga, cuma touch screen nya ttp ga bisa.
Untuk bisa update ke 6.0 hanya X5? Kalau type lain kayak serie 3 bisa gak Om
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civic2010 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:26 Kata sales bmw hmmm mestinya seh bawa nama bmw yaa hehr
Ooo malah si salesnya yg ngomong gitu ya, tapi kalo jadi ambil diesel tetep pake dex aja om
Daripada kalo apa2 malah ga bisa klaim garansi, lagipula dex lebih murah dari shell diesel (kadang2)
Seharusnya ga masalah ya

Btw kalau X5 kyknya sy prefer bensin soalnya "rasa" powernya ga beda jauh
Memang diesel bmw lebih irit, tapi kalau cuma jadi weekend car rasanya lebih enak bensin
Sy dulu pakai x1, mau gamau harus diesel karena versi bensinnya cuma n/a dan lemot
Walau sy merasa x1 diesel lebih powerfull tapi rasanya ada sesuatu yg "artificial" dari fun to drive nya
Kalau mesin bensin turbo bmw kok sy merasa sangat natural dan porwefull juga
Intinya vote for x5 bensin aja
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greyrevolver wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:33
vp920b wrote:BMW diesel di indonesia, euro 3 spec.

Memang bisa minum solar up to 300ppm karena dex adalah euro 3 compliant.

Ga ada masalah kalau beli mobil mahal mikir irit bensin.

Diluar diesel banyak untuk mobil kelas 2 ton keatas, bukan hanya cari irit, tapi cari torsi..
Thanks Om untuk infonya , btw ada linknya mengenai informasi ini gak Om? Saya mau kasih lihat ke temen saya..
Nanti saya cari brosurnya..

waktu itu saya baca di brosurnya..
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Tats wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:36
civic2010 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:26 Kata sales bmw hmmm mestinya seh bawa nama bmw yaa hehr
Ooo malah si salesnya yg ngomong gitu ya, tapi kalo jadi ambil diesel tetep pake dex aja om
Daripada kalo apa2 malah ga bisa klaim garansi, lagipula dex lebih murah dari shell diesel (kadang2)
Seharusnya ga masalah ya

Btw kalau X5 kyknya sy prefer bensin soalnya "rasa" powernya ga beda jauh
Memang diesel bmw lebih irit, tapi kalau cuma jadi weekend car rasanya lebih enak bensin
Sy dulu pakai x1, mau gamau harus diesel karena versi bensinnya cuma n/a dan lemot
Walau sy merasa x1 diesel lebih powerfull tapi rasanya ada sesuatu yg "artificial" dari fun to drive nya
Kalau mesin bensin turbo bmw kok sy merasa sangat natural dan porwefull juga
Intinya vote for x5 bensin aja
kalo ane sih..

kalo mbl dipake terus2an ya ambil diesel, 520d itu bs dpt 1:14 loh rute cibubur pancoran kuningan cibubur

lari juga bisa 260 kmh

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Saya sih diesel, soalnya torsinya (walau yg bensin torsi nya oke jg) dan efisien bahan bakarnya dapet. Pastiin jg pertadex di tempat tinggal tersedia.
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greyrevolver wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:35
g4ndalf wrote:
marr wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 btw x5 udh idrive 6.0 belom ya?
Nik 17 dst sudah... yg belum bisa di upgrade juga, cuma touch screen nya ttp ga bisa.
Untuk bisa update ke 6.0 hanya X5? Kalau type lain kayak serie 3 bisa gak Om
bisa, update speedo pun bisa, selama itu F30
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fizrmen wrote:
greyrevolver wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:35
g4ndalf wrote: Nik 17 dst sudah... yg belum bisa di upgrade juga, cuma touch screen nya ttp ga bisa.
Untuk bisa update ke 6.0 hanya X5? Kalau type lain kayak serie 3 bisa gak Om
bisa, update speedo pun bisa, selama itu F30
Wah menarik ini Om, updatenya harus ke beres atau bisa sendiri ? Untuk update speedo hanya bisa untuk speedo yg full digital ? (f30 2017 akhir)
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greyrevolver wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:40
fizrmen wrote:
greyrevolver wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:35
Untuk bisa update ke 6.0 hanya X5? Kalau type lain kayak serie 3 bisa gak Om
bisa, update speedo pun bisa, selama itu F30
Wah menarik ini Om, updatenya harus ke beres atau bisa sendiri ? Untuk update speedo hanya bisa untuk speedo yg full digital ? (f30 2017 akhir)
kayaknya ke beres deh om, ue liat ig salah satu sales bmw bisa update dia post di ig nya, iya update speedo jg digital, kalo iDrive nya bisa update tp gbs touchscreen sepertinya
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farizfsa wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:23 kalo ane sih..

kalo mbl dipake terus2an ya ambil diesel, 520d itu bs dpt 1:14 loh rute cibubur pancoran kuningan cibubur

lari juga bisa 260 kmh

torsi gede plus 8 speed enak lah
Betul om, diesel bmw ini enak banget
Kalau buat harian mobilnya halus bgt untuk sebuah diesel, santai gitu rasanya
Tp kalo galak2an juga rasanya torsinya brutal juga x1 sy dulu
Walau sejujurnya waktu stop n go ga seirit yg sy harapkan, tapi masih tergolong bagus lah fuel cons nya
Ada beberapa hal yg annoying di suspensi keras dan steer agak berat (udh pada tau lah kelemahan x1 gen1)
But that's bmw anyway hahaha
Sori buat om TS jadi bahas x1

Tapi mesin bensin bmw tetep kasih feeling yg lebih natural bagi sy
Sayang sy blm ada pengalaman piara bmw bermesin bensin turbo modern
Cuma icip2 aja makenya juga punya temen hahaha
Mungkin sy bias karena bosen dgn karakter diesel bmw
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