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(ASK) c200 classic W204 2012 second or CX5 urban new

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selama malam juragan sekalian

saya newbie nih di forum ini, jadi kalo misal masih ada kesalahan dalam postingan saya mohon dimaafkan ya hehe..

mau tanya saya, kebetulan saya lagi mau ganti mobil, nah, di rentang budget saya, saya lihat untuk mobil baru bisa dapat cx5 urban (after disc), dan tadinya saya udh nyaris SPK itu mobil.. tapi, saya searching2 lagi, kalo ambil second saya bisa dpt mercy c200 classic W204 2012.. kebetulan ada satu di OLX yg saya taksir, harga jg ga beda jauh sama cx5, dan jg yg saya taksir tsb garansinya belum habis (ISP ya sebutannya kalo ga salah).. nah, skrg bingung lah saya, mau ambil yg mana.. karena bbrp wkt lalu smpt liat di forum SM jg ttg parts2 mazda yg rada susah diluaran, dan hal tsb diamini oleh teman2 saya yg hobi mobil, malah mereka bilang parts mercy diluaran lebih gampang dicari drpd partsnya mazda.. mohon petunjuknya para juragan sekalian.. dan maaf kalo saya postingnya di sedan types tapi bahasnya cx5, karena masih bingung mau ngepost dimana hehe.. thxb4
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FIX W204.... apalagi yg ud FL... cakeppp...

modif ganti pake pelek AMG... tambahin bodykit AMG jg... cakep pisann....

CX5 mahh lewatttt....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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jelas w204 om, rasa eropa sama keropa eropaan mah beda... :big_grin: no offense
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Nanggung banget yang urban om :D


W204 ajaaa...apalagi kalau ada yang kenal:D
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ISP bukannya 3 taun ya? kalo 2012 udah mau abis kan ya?

Asal kira2 ga masalah sama biaya servis berikutnya, ya go for Mercy, naikannya ga bakal boong antara w204 dgn cx5 :big_exellent:

Ato tunggu akhir taun tunggu diskon makin gede untuk ambil at least yang CX5 touring brand new :mky_02:
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langsung lah merc om, isp masih ada tapi pasti udah mepet kan, nah kejar2an deh si om ama isp nya, makanya langsung putuskan beli trus ganti semua parts di isp nya,, hahaha
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Kalau saya sih langsung pilih w204 om, w204 unggul hampir segala aspek dibanding cx 5 ( cx5 dengan segala elektroniknya yang kompleks buat pakai longterm kayaknya agak serem )

Belum lagi tampang sporty w204 fl, prestige nya ada, udah terbuki reliable, dialy use nyaman, tuning kit banyak, accecories banyak, sparepart banyak, bisa minum premium lagi ( malu tapi ) :off_good_job:

*bukan sales mercy*
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maz cx5 mmg punya aftersales problem kalo bicara non-authorized parts retail ....hrs ingat ini brandnew unit n blm wkt ganti ini itu

bila di compare dg "kereta terpakai" brand apapun yg mostly skrg lg pd bingung cari buyers

jaman skrg ini sy kalo punya wang sgitu pasti pilih apapun brandnew ...geli skalipun (zhonghua brand yg skrg punya volvo)

skrg wkt yg buruk u buang wang ssdh kluar wang byk (abis beli unit trus beli parts lg)

unit baru sj skrg susah jualan ...apalagi kereta terpakai (istilah malay)
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newrubble wrote:maz cx5 mmg punya aftersales problem kalo bicara non-authorized parts retail ....hrs ingat ini brandnew unit n blm wkt ganti ini itu

bila di compare dg "kereta terpakai" brand apapun yg mostly skrg lg pd bingung cari buyers

jaman skrg ini sy kalo punya wang sgitu pasti pilih apapun brandnew ...geli skalipun (zhonghua brand yg skrg punya volvo)

skrg wkt yg buruk u buang wang ssdh kluar wang byk (abis beli unit trus beli parts lg)

unit baru sj skrg susah jualan ...apalagi kereta terpakai (istilah malay)
Jadi kesimpulannya pilih jang mana om ? :e-think:
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pilih brandnew lah ...apapun dia ...maz skalipun
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sayangnya w204 nya c 200 trim classic,, yang pastinya banyak fitur yg hilang dibanding c 250 / c 300 avantgarde

sedangkan cx5 sendiri tidak memberikan point plus dibanding w 204 seken kecuali mobilnya agak tinggi (bisa jadi point minus juga) n masih garansi 3 tahun

jd tetap lebih baik w204 namun cari yg trim nya lebih tinggi..
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@all:

thanks atas masukannya. Jadi berarti lebih baik saya ambil w204 ya dibanding cx5?

Utk mslh biaya service, kira2 tiap service itu kena brp ya? Kalo cx5 bdsrkn teman saya yg uh pakai katanya sekitaran 2 jutaan tiap service.. dan menurut saya tergolong mahal utk sebuah mbl jepang..

utk mslh reliable, apakah mbl ini daya tahannya sebaik mbl jepang? Minimal bisa setahan mbl saya skrg, batumakam xtrail 2009, saya pakai 6 thn KM >100k baru ganti bushing arm doang (yg saya ganti sendiri ya, karena tiap service psti saya ke beres karena maunya terima beres saja hehe).. saya butuh mbl yg daya tahannya bagus karena pemakaian saya cukup tinggi, 5-6 bln 10000 KM..

lalu untuk pajak, kira2 brp ya beda pajak antara tangsel dan DKI? Karena saya udh cek, utk c200 2012 pkbnya kena 9.580 jt pertahun pajak DKI.. kira2 brp ya pajaknya kalo tangsel?

sekali lagi, thanks atas informasinya
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Go for mercy.. Gimana pun lebih wow..hahahaa
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................vote w204 mint.............
*reliabilty score terbaik di dpt dr bbrp bdn independent, mis JD powers, reliabilityindex.com, etc.
*ketersedian parts/workshop dr level beres-kaki5
*part price yg decent
*RV kuat, potensial lost money klo dijual bbrp thn lg lbh bsr ada di cx-5.

xixixi.....ane pribadi klo ada jerman car dg reliability yg sgt baik, plus parts n price yg decent, ya prefer milih ini compare jap's sekelas akord, kemri, ato m6, apalagi cx5.

*cx-5, dr bbrp visit sy ke bbrp authorized dealer mzd yg b'beda, trakhir jum'at kmrn. spare partsnya msh susah, mzd pusat mt aja ngga ada stock
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Vote C200... alasan sama dengan om Jivos...

W204 ini reliability reportnya baik, bahkan sudah terbukti seorang member disini pake ratusan ribu KM dengan premium masih sehat.

Dan beberapa report reliability dari pengguna CX-5 juga kurang bagus.

Rivalnya yang katanya jelek lah murahan lah malah reliability nya surprisingly cukup bagus, saya pakai 4 tahun kilo 36ribu kaki-kaki gak ada jajan sama sekali.
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W204: reliability yang bagus buat mobil Jerman, prestige dapet (secara ini mercedes), cukup irit (temen pake W204 C200 Avantgarde dapet average FC 11km/l dalkot Jakarta kombinasi tol, hitung manual)

CX5: menang ground clearence, practicality SUV, irit

it's your choice..
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Mau tanya kalau benz 2nd knapa ga ambil c250 aja om? Jatuh harga nya lumayan. Sama2 2nd kalau menurut saya lebih worth c250, sdah sipp body kit nya. Minus nya c classe itu sedan sempit. Liwat rel kreta grogol kadang suka gusruk.
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W204 nya ambil yg type ini aja om..

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richard t wrote:Mau tanya kalau benz 2nd knapa ga ambil c250 aja om? Jatuh harga nya lumayan. Sama2 2nd kalau menurut saya lebih worth c250, sdah sipp body kit nya. Minus nya c classe itu sedan sempit. Liwat rel kreta grogol kadang suka gusruk.
Hmm berarti GCnya lumayan rendah dong om? Camry setau ane jarang bgt gasruk, termasuk lumayan tinggi untuk sedan. Gasruk2 kayak gini sih yg bikin saya agak2 mundur untuk ambil sedan, ngilu dengernya :ungg:
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Tapi saya sih bakal milihnya tetep W204, naksir banget sama mercy satu ini. W201 W202 W204 me likey :big_love:

Sayang W203 sama W205 saya ga suka bentuknya, entah knp mercy bikin designnya ga konsisten di mata saya, mending bmw atau audi.
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adty wrote:
richard t wrote:Mau tanya kalau benz 2nd knapa ga ambil c250 aja om? Jatuh harga nya lumayan. Sama2 2nd kalau menurut saya lebih worth c250, sdah sipp body kit nya. Minus nya c classe itu sedan sempit. Liwat rel kreta grogol kadang suka gusruk.
Hmm berarti GCnya lumayan rendah dong om? Camry setau ane jarang bgt gasruk, termasuk lumayan tinggi untuk sedan. Gasruk2 kayak gini sih yg bikin saya agak2 mundur untuk ambil sedan, ngilu dengernya :ungg:
Benar om. Camry v40 sdikit lbih tinggi
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adty wrote:
richard t wrote:Mau tanya kalau benz 2nd knapa ga ambil c250 aja om? Jatuh harga nya lumayan. Sama2 2nd kalau menurut saya lebih worth c250, sdah sipp body kit nya. Minus nya c classe itu sedan sempit. Liwat rel kreta grogol kadang suka gusruk.
Hmm berarti GCnya lumayan rendah dong om? Camry setau ane jarang bgt gasruk, termasuk lumayan tinggi untuk sedan. Gasruk2 kayak gini sih yg bikin saya agak2 mundur untuk ambil sedan, ngilu dengernya :ungg:
Kayanya yg ga tukang gasruk sedan2 toyota aja deh om wkwkw, ama yg suzuki neo baleno itu ... :mky_03:
Honda, nissan, merc bmw, tiap naik kalo bawanya krg alus pasti gruk pas poldur/jalan lobang/dsb ... :ungg:
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Cuman Toyota yang mengerti Indonesia.. :mky_08:
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KielConstantine wrote:W204 nya ambil yg type ini aja om..

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richard t wrote:Mau tanya kalau benz 2nd knapa ga ambil c250 aja om? Jatuh harga nya lumayan. Sama2 2nd kalau menurut saya lebih worth c250, sdah sipp body kit nya. Minus nya c classe itu sedan sempit. Liwat rel kreta grogol kadang suka gusruk.
keduanya gak masuk budget semua oom.. katena saya pasti kasih spare buat jaga2 kalo misal ada parts yg harus diganti..

btw mbl ini gasruk ya kalo kena poldur? Waduh.. dulu saya pake altis ga gasruk sama sekali.. skrg saya pake xtrail, lobang hajar terus.. hrs pembiasaan bawa sedan lagi nih kalo jadi ambil w204 hehe..
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ChZ wrote:Vote C200... alasan sama dengan om Jivos...

W204 ini reliability reportnya baik, bahkan sudah terbukti seorang member disini pake ratusan ribu KM dengan premium masih sehat.

Dan beberapa report reliability dari pengguna CX-5 juga kurang bagus.

Rivalnya yang katanya jelek lah murahan lah malah reliability nya surprisingly cukup bagus, saya pakai 4 tahun kilo 36ribu kaki-kaki gak ada jajan sama sekali.
haristk7 wrote:W204: reliability yang bagus buat mobil Jerman, prestige dapet (secara ini mercedes), cukup irit (temen pake W204 C200 Avantgarde dapet average FC 11km/l dalkot Jakarta kombinasi tol, hitung manual)

CX5: menang ground clearence, practicality SUV, irit

it's your choice..
jivos wrote:................vote w204 mint.............
*reliabilty score terbaik di dpt dr bbrp bdn independent, mis JD powers, reliabilityindex.com, etc.
*ketersedian parts/workshop dr level beres-kaki5
*part price yg decent
*RV kuat, potensial lost money klo dijual bbrp thn lg lbh bsr ada di cx-5.

xixixi.....ane pribadi klo ada jerman car dg reliability yg sgt baik, plus parts n price yg decent, ya prefer milih ini compare jap's sekelas akord, kemri, ato m6, apalagi cx5.

*cx-5, dr bbrp visit sy ke bbrp authorized dealer mzd yg b'beda, trakhir jum'at kmrn. spare partsnya msh susah, mzd pusat mt aja ngga ada stock
Berarti utk mslh reliable masih lebih reliable w204 ya ketimbang cx5..

utk hrg parts kira2 brp oom? Yg fast moving parts aja deh.. jg utk biaya service rutin di BeRes.. oya, ini servicenya tiap 10rb apa 7.5rb spt chevrolet ya?

nah, cm yg masih membuat saya bimbang yaitu spt yg om haristk blg, cx5 unggul di GC nya.. utk mslh practicallity, saya rasa sih nyaris sama, paling kalo SUV menangnya cm bagasinya aja tinggi, kalo sedan rendah.. tpi ya gpp sih scr dlu saya pake altis jg ga ada mslh sama sekali dgn practicallity nya..