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Pagi Agan semua,

Mau tanya opinion agans semua, mana yang lebih OK dari 2 pilihan diatas dgn segala pertimbangan handling, ride quality,comfort sampai after sales service dan resale value :) Ama satu lagi mana yg lebih tinggi ground clearance-nya?

1. E 200 FL, blum TD, cuma liat brosur aja, ama baca/nonton review di internet. Static damping.

2. 520i, sudah TD, handling OK firm, adaptive damping, gak berasa besar. Cuma 'diingetin' ama sales mercy : BMW problem (tuh mobil BMW yg dipajang di IIMS, yang problem sama dealer Tunas kyknya), ama resale value jatuh banget (is it?) Klo fitur kyaknya sih menang BWM, mercy yg E200 FL ini lebih ke basic level :)

Mohon insight dan saran agans disini.
:big_deal: Terima kasih.
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waduh pilihannya mirip nih om.
kalo masalah resale jatuh tergantung berapa gede diskon yg didpt. anyway, 200fl dikasih brp on the road nett om? waktu iims mentok 850jt aja. nawar 750jt ga dikasih :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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kalo keperluannya buat nyetir sendiri ya jelas 520i kemana-mana.... :mrgreen:

520i walaupun cuma entry levelnya seri 5 tetep buas.... tetep bisa dipake drift :big_smoking:

buat jadi penumpang pun.... nggak terlalu jauh juga bedanya. seri-5 dampingnya enak

halah... kalo ngikutin omongan sales mah isinya jelekin produk kompetitor melulu... :big_bored: E-Klasse kalo yang E200 kok berasa agak nanggung gimana gitu juga.... :e-think:

bilang aja sama salesnya : "kalo saya mau nggak rewel saya udah beli Accord atau Camry...." :ngacir:
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ini 'biased opinion' gak bos? secara ente mmg suka bmw 5 series kwkwkw..

Tpi noted with thanks, suka juga mmg, tapi masalah resale value and longevity, expected problem?

ChZ wrote:kalo keperluannya buat nyetir sendiri ya jelas 520i kemana-mana.... :mrgreen:

520i walaupun cuma entry levelnya seri 5 tetep buas.... tetep bisa dipake drift :big_smoking:

buat jadi penumpang pun.... nggak terlalu jauh juga bedanya. seri-5 dampingnya enak

halah... kalo ngikutin omongan sales mah isinya jelekin produk kompetitor melulu... :big_bored: E-Klasse kalo yang E200 kok berasa agak nanggung gimana gitu juga.... :e-think:

bilang aja sama salesnya : "kalo saya mau nggak rewel saya udah beli Accord atau Camry...." :ngacir:
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Nawar-nya sadis kali bro, jadi enggak dikasih. :mky_04:
Discount-nya mirip sih, di level 100jt, baik merc maupun bmw.
montirangin wrote:waduh pilihannya mirip nih om.
kalo masalah resale jatuh tergantung berapa gede diskon yg didpt. anyway, 200fl dikasih brp on the road nett om? waktu iims mentok 850jt aja. nawar 750jt ga dikasih :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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ahmad88 wrote:ini 'biased opinion' gak bos? secara ente mmg suka bmw 5 series kwkwkw..

Tpi noted with thanks, suka juga mmg, tapi masalah resale value and longevity, expected problem?
agak biased sebenernya... :mrgreen:

sebagai sebuah mobil, 5-series F10 menang segalanya di atas E-Klasse W212 (sebagai sebuah mobil ya, kalo ngomongin luxury thing atau build quality ya Merc menang masih) .... tapi kalo ngomong reliabilitas sepertinya Merc masih diatas BMW.... karena elektrikal BMW jauh lebih kompleks.

resale value juga Merc over BMW... mau seri-3, seri-5 pasti tetep kalah RVnya sama C-klasse dan E-Klasse.
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22 punya servis gratis tanpa batasan kilometer... Rasanya buat short-term use mah sama2 aja ya ga akan bermasalah :D

Tapi buat long-term (10thn up)... BMW biasanya tumbang duluan dr medan perang :ungg:

Dan pas udah tua, bimmer jadi keliatan lebih tua dr mercy taun yg sama... Mercy desainnya timeless :mky_02:
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Kalo udah nyebut "handling"

BMW lah
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ChZ wrote:
agak biased sebenernya... :mrgreen:

sebagai sebuah mobil, 5-series F10 menang segalanya di atas E-Klasse W212 (sebagai sebuah mobil ya, kalo ngomongin luxury thing atau build quality ya Merc menang masih) .... tapi kalo ngomong reliabilitas sepertinya Merc masih diatas BMW.... karena elektrikal BMW jauh lebih kompleks.

resale value juga Merc over BMW... mau seri-3, seri-5 pasti tetep kalah RVnya sama C-klasse dan E-Klasse.
Statement yg dibold berlawanan ama statement berikutnya..

Luxury, msh mercedes.
Built quality, mercs.
Material quality, mercs.
Electrical (and overall) reliability, mercs.
Resale, mercs.

Jd di mana menangnya bimmer slain handling dan lbih cepet trobelnyaaaa..

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amfibi wrote:-

Tapi buat long-term (10thn up)... BMW biasanya tumbang duluan dr medan perang :ungg:

Dan pas udah tua, bimmer jadi keliatan lebih tua dr mercy taun yg sama... Mercy desainnya timeless :mky_02:
Imho aja mod, yg dibold, ngga semuanya..

E39 dan E46 sampe detik ini masih jauh lebih enak diliat ketimbang W210 dan W203 yg sekelas n sejamannya.. trutama utk E46 vs W203.

Just my biased-subjective visual opinion.. :)
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Nightster Guy wrote:
amfibi wrote:-

Tapi buat long-term (10thn up)... BMW biasanya tumbang duluan dr medan perang :ungg:

Dan pas udah tua, bimmer jadi keliatan lebih tua dr mercy taun yg sama... Mercy desainnya timeless :mky_02:
Imho aja mod, yg dibold, ngga semuanya..

E39 dan E46 sampe detik ini masih jauh lebih enak diliat ketimbang W210 dan W203 yg sekelas n sejamannya.. trutama utk E46 vs W203.

Just my biased-subjective visual opinion.. :)
Aduuh sori2 om ane tadi lupa nambahin 'biasanya' hehehe :mky_01: :mky_01: :mky_01:

Tapi kalo E46 VS W203... Menurut ane & orang2 masih jauh lebih 'wah' pas W203 lewat... di mata orang, E46 udah kaya mobil2 djelata aja, sedangkan W203 masih standout banget... :mky_08:

(biarpun ane pribadi seneng 22nya)
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Nightster Guy wrote:
ChZ wrote:
agak biased sebenernya... :mrgreen:

sebagai sebuah mobil, 5-series F10 menang segalanya di atas E-Klasse W212 (sebagai sebuah mobil ya, kalo ngomongin luxury thing atau build quality ya Merc menang masih) .... tapi kalo ngomong reliabilitas sepertinya Merc masih diatas BMW.... karena elektrikal BMW jauh lebih kompleks.

resale value juga Merc over BMW... mau seri-3, seri-5 pasti tetep kalah RVnya sama C-klasse dan E-Klasse.
Statement yg dibold berlawanan ama statement berikutnya..

Luxury, msh mercedes.
Built quality, mercs.
Material quality, mercs.
Electrical (and overall) reliability, mercs.
Resale, mercs.

Jd di mana menangnya bimmer slain handling dan lbih cepet trobelnyaaaa..

:big_weee:

Ane banned jg ente lama2 mod..

:big_weee:
Gini deh kalo fanboy mercedes yang komen :big_weee:
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ahmad88 wrote:Pagi Agan semua,

Mau tanya opinion agans semua, mana yang lebih OK dari 2 pilihan diatas dgn segala pertimbangan handling, ride quality,comfort sampai after sales service dan resale value :) Ama satu lagi mana yg lebih tinggi ground clearance-nya?

1. E 200 FL, blum TD, cuma liat brosur aja, ama baca/nonton review di internet. Static damping.

2. 520i, sudah TD, handling OK firm, adaptive damping, gak berasa besar. Cuma 'diingetin' ama sales mercy : BMW problem (tuh mobil BMW yg dipajang di IIMS, yang problem sama dealer Tunas kyknya), ama resale value jatuh banget (is it?) Klo fitur kyaknya sih menang BWM, mercy yg E200 FL ini lebih ke basic level :)

Mohon insight dan saran agans disini.
:big_deal: Terima kasih.
Handling: BMW (but then again kalo cari handling beneran, go for f30)

Ride quality / comfort: E class

ASS: 11 12 hampir sama, cmiiw garansi BMW / free service nya lebih lama 5 thn vs 3 thn

Resale: Mercs - E class lbh bnyk peminat timbang seri 5

Ground clearance: Bisa baca speknya di internet banyak, tapi ground clearance itu cuma half the story. Ada mobil yg ground clearancenya lebih tinggi tapi nyangkut, yg di atas kertas lebih pendek malah aman. Krn ground clearance itu diukur jarak dari tanah / ground ke bagian mobil yg paling bawah. Tdk mempertimbangkan bagian tsb di mana. Contoh: Mobil rwd biasanya jarak bumper depan ke roda depan lebih pendek dibanding fwd, jadi approach angle nya lebih besar drpd mobil fwd. Kalau ground clearance jadi pertimbangan serius, jgn ambil sedan.
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Sayang 2 2 nya adalah model tua, f10 dari 2010 juga ada, w212 fl juga plg 2 thn lagi (2016) ganti

Dan menurut saya mercy e class jadi kelihatan kecil, apa mata saya perlu kalibrasi ulang,, hehehe

Menurut saya kecil ngak akan kelihatan mewah walopun mau dikasih krom 1 ton, , tp kalo besar dan full black tampa 1gr krom bisa kelihatan mewah dan gagah

Mending f10 aja lah, apalagi kalo 528, mantap tuh
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ahmad88 wrote:Nawar-nya sadis kali bro, jadi enggak dikasih. :mky_04:
Discount-nya mirip sih, di level 100jt, baik merc maupun bmw.
ya mungkin sadis, toh ga terburu2 saat ganti mobil om. juga lebih ke bmw dibanding mercedes tapi kalo dikasih knp ngga :mky_02:
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amfibi wrote:22 punya servis gratis tanpa batasan kilometer... Rasanya buat short-term use mah sama2 aja ya ga akan bermasalah :D

Tapi buat long-term (10thn up)... BMW biasanya tumbang duluan dr medan perang :ungg:

Dan pas udah tua, bimmer jadi keliatan lebih tua dr mercy taun yg sama... Mercy desainnya timeless :mky_02:
merc ga ada batesan, namun 3thn. bmw 5thn ada batesan 60rb km.
CMIIW kalo misalnya udah ada pembaharuan.
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tergantung pemakaian nya, kalo utk dipake harian dan macet2an sy lbh suka bawa benz fitur macem brake holdnya bantu banget tapi utk weekend use dan ngebut lebih enak bmw, fitur2nya juga lebih lengkap udah ada panoramic segala.
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Nightster Guy wrote:
Statement yg dibold berlawanan ama statement berikutnya..

Luxury, msh mercedes.
Built quality, mercs.
Material quality, mercs.
Electrical (and overall) reliability, mercs.
Resale, mercs.

Jd di mana menangnya bimmer slain handling dan lbih cepet trobelnyaaaa..

:big_weee:

Ane banned jg ente lama2 mod..

:big_weee:
dasar penboi mercedes... :ngacir: :ngacir:

*bukan sales BMW, bukan pemilik dealer BMW, bukan presdir BMW Indo apalagi pemegang saham BMW*
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Agan semua, terima kasih saran dan masukan-nya. :big_deal: ane sdh spk 520i.

Dan pihak yg paling bertanggung jawab, dealer batu makam, yang PHP-in saya akhir oktober/november T32, yg sampe skrg masih di awang2.

regardless pros / cons, saya sudah TD (test drive and test duduk) dalam 2-2nya. Deciding factor tentu budget, how much i'm willing to spend and how I perceive the car. Ini personal observation saya atas kedua product tersebut:
- Merc E200 FL:
1. No sun roof
2. setting confusing, console/multimedia, i don't get it.
3. velg 17' jadul,
4. wierd 4 spoke steering wheel, even golf steering wheel looks better and you have to get the E250 Avantgrade to get proper 3 spoke steering
5. Very similiar looking to taxi, (nothing wrong with taxi look ya, tpi di merc TB simatupang berjejer taxi merc blue bird)
6. Static damper setting.
7. DRL aneh
8. Can't see the rear exhaust hehe..
9. Direct shift lever (yang ada di kanan), ini kalo yang sering bawa mobil jepang-Jerman, kadang suka kebalik2, apa lagi kalau sopir yang bawa. Nanti mau overtake, salah sign, pindah ke N, loss of power no? Masalahnya muscle memory ini kdg suka annoying and potentially dangerous?


- 520i = !Merc E200 FL

Ini personal observation and when my budget right, I'd like to add E250 avg or SLS AMG to my list lol. still a dream car yes? :big_peace:

Tapi untuk saat ini settle dulu dgn 520i, tadi test drive, my wife as driver, me with 2 kids on the back and still spacious. Ground clearance lumayan rendah, ada yang pasang tempat kabel aneh di mall alam sutra mentok. Rest is history, wish me luck. Again, thank you all.
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ahmad88 wrote:Agan semua, terima kasih saran dan masukan-nya. :big_deal: ane sdh spk 520i.

Dan pihak yg paling bertanggung jawab, dealer batu makam, yang PHP-in saya akhir oktober/november T32, yg sampe skrg masih di awang2.

regardless pros / cons, saya sudah TD (test drive and test duduk) dalam 2-2nya. Deciding factor tentu budget, how much i'm willing to spend and how I perceive the car. Ini personal observation saya atas kedua product tersebut:
- Merc E200 FL:
1. No sun roof
2. setting confusing, console/multimedia, i don't get it.
3. velg 17' jadul,
4. wierd 4 spoke steering wheel, even golf steering wheel looks better and you have to get the E250 Avantgrade to get proper 3 spoke steering
5. Very similiar looking to taxi, (nothing wrong with taxi look ya, tpi di merc TB simatupang berjejer taxi merc blue bird)
6. Static damper setting.
7. DRL aneh
8. Can't see the rear exhaust hehe..
9. Direct shift lever (yang ada di kanan), ini kalo yang sering bawa mobil jepang-Jerman, kadang suka kebalik2, apa lagi kalau sopir yang bawa. Nanti mau overtake, salah sign, pindah ke N, loss of power no? Masalahnya muscle memory ini kdg suka annoying and potentially dangerous?


- 520i = !Merc E200 FL

Ini personal observation and when my budget right, I'd like to add E250 avg or SLS AMG to my list lol. still a dream car yes? :big_peace:

Tapi untuk saat ini settle dulu dgn 520i, tadi test drive, my wife as driver, me with 2 kids on the back and still spacious. Ground clearance lumayan rendah, ada yang pasang tempat kabel aneh di mall alam sutra mentok. Rest is history, wish me luck. Again, thank you all.
Wih spk 520i :mky_02: :mky_02:
Dapet diskon berapa om? :mky_01:

Semoga puas pake 520inya :big_grin: :big_grin: :mrgreen: :e-pray:
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congrats om utk 520inya, pemantau setia ni thread.
tranny di 520 8speed zf ? yg merc e200 still 7g tronik kah?
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good choice oom... congrats :frm_tumbleft: semoga puas pakenya :mky_02:
jivos wrote:congrats om utk 520inya, pemantau setia ni thread.
tranny di 520 8speed zf ? yg merc e200 still 7g tronik kah?
520i ZF 8-speed untuk versi facelift terakhir. Mercedes 7G-TRONIC.
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Thanks, diskon blm pasti, di kisaran 130jt-an atau kurang. Ayo buruan mumpung diskon, hehe. Trus klo yang berminat mercy, kalau besok SPK, dpt bonus tv LG 65" kwkwkw.. bantu promosi.
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ahmad88 wrote:Agan semua, terima kasih saran dan masukan-nya. :big_deal: ane sdh spk 520i.

Dan pihak yg paling bertanggung jawab, dealer batu makam, yang PHP-in saya akhir oktober/november T32, yg sampe skrg masih di awang2.

regardless pros / cons, saya sudah TD (test drive and test duduk) dalam 2-2nya. Deciding factor tentu budget, how much i'm willing to spend and how I perceive the car. Ini personal observation saya atas kedua product tersebut:
- Merc E200 FL:
1. No sun roof
2. setting confusing, console/multimedia, i don't get it.
3. velg 17' jadul,
4. wierd 4 spoke steering wheel, even golf steering wheel looks better and you have to get the E250 Avantgrade to get proper 3 spoke steering
5. Very similiar looking to taxi, (nothing wrong with taxi look ya, tpi di merc TB simatupang berjejer taxi merc blue bird)
6. Static damper setting.
7. DRL aneh
8. Can't see the rear exhaust hehe..
9. Direct shift lever (yang ada di kanan), ini kalo yang sering bawa mobil jepang-Jerman, kadang suka kebalik2, apa lagi kalau sopir yang bawa. Nanti mau overtake, salah sign, pindah ke N, loss of power no? Masalahnya muscle memory ini kdg suka annoying and potentially dangerous?


- 520i = !Merc E200 FL

Ini personal observation and when my budget right, I'd like to add E250 avg or SLS AMG to my list lol. still a dream car yes? :big_peace:

Tapi untuk saat ini settle dulu dgn 520i, tadi test drive, my wife as driver, me with 2 kids on the back and still spacious. Ground clearance lumayan rendah, ada yang pasang tempat kabel aneh di mall alam sutra mentok. Rest is history, wish me luck. Again, thank you all.
Wih spk 520i :mky_02: :mky_02:
Dapet diskon berapa om? :mky_01:

Semoga puas pake 520inya :big_grin: :big_grin: :mrgreen: :e-pray:
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Mantap om , semoga bmwnya awet :mky_02:
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pilihan bagus om ahmad......................