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ask grandvitara 2.4, tucson atau captiva 22/2.0 diesel

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hallo all .. aku minta saran dong menurut agan2 sekalian mending yang mana ya grandvitara 2.4, tucson atau captiva 22/2.0 diesel?? soalny range harga nya ampir2 mirip ... soalny kalo crv atau xtrail k mahalan belum sanggup hehehe.. thanks
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Mau SUV tulen ya beli GV, karena model gagah macho tapi kekurangan biasa di rack steering aja, ama bensin boros 1:6-7, resale value jg sama.

Kalau tucson korea sudah memperbaikki yang jelek2 n kasih barang berkualitas. Hanya saja kekurangannya belom tau krn mobil masih baru aja pke

Captiva understeer jeleknya, bantingan kurang gt pas sih buat ane IMHO, agak firm. Dieselnya bagus tapi mesti pke pertadex n minimum shell, ga boleh biosolar kl mesinnya ga mau hancur.

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emankny selisih harga brpaan oom???klo selisih dikit bgsan ambil xtrail de,nyaman bantingan lembut bgt,klo g ambil juke z,hhehehe.mesin kecil n sudah pasti irit,klo cm butuh 5 seater se ok.klo mawny 7 seater captiva diesel,mesin cukup bertenaga,bantinganny emank agak firm,cm kerasa bgt de klo di polisi tidur yg berganda2 kecil bgt.hehehe
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captiva 2.0 VCDi Diesel A/T 327.000.000
xtrail 2.5 ST CVT 2.488 180 343.000.000

beda tipis
itu blon sama diskon kalo pinter nawar & momennya tepat ya
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toh selisih dikit klo ane ambil xtrail.tp klo pilihan harus 7seater y captiva,soalny GV 2.4 jg plg selisih 10-20 juta dr xtrail.itu xtrail dapet type xt lg.
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x-trail juga ada versi terjangkaunya yg bermesin 2.0
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kl sy si mningan chevy ctv diesel awd dah.....................
REAR-WHEEL DRIVE TO KEEP YOU MOVING FORWARD

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sen yg 2.5 z selisih dikit.klo ane se ambil t31,krn udah ada jg di depen rmh,hehehehe.tp TEST DRIVE is the best.masing2 org lain kesukaanny.
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naldo wrote:Mau SUV tulen ya beli GV, karena model gagah macho tapi kekurangan biasa di rack steering aja, ama bensin boros 1:6-7, resale value jg sama.

Kalau tucson korea sudah memperbaikki yang jelek2 n kasih barang berkualitas. Hanya saja kekurangannya belom tau krn mobil masih baru aja pke

Captiva understeer jeleknya, bantingan kurang gt pas sih buat ane IMHO, agak firm. Dieselnya bagus tapi mesti pke pertadex n minimum shell, ga boleh biosolar kl mesinnya ga mau hancur.

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yg ane bold itu... mau nanya donk bro... emg mesin ctv sgitu rentan nya kahh ampe haram sama skali pake biosolar... bukan nya teknologi dia sama ama d4d toyota, did nya mitsu... bearti d4d ama did jg haram total donk ama bio solar... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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klo ini ane g taw.sebenarny bkn ancur kekny.plg susah idup doank klo mesin dinggin.kyk ipah gen 1 yg diesel,dgr2 nissan jg bermasalh dgn solar pertamina.
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Fuel pump ancur, dan kalau bio solar menurut orang mitsu harus kuras fuel pump setiap 7500KM.

Kalau shell or pertadex palingan 15000KM sekali. Kebetulan ane pke mitsu pajero sport.

Dibanding fuel pump jebol ya mending isi solar sulfur rendah ama cetane numbernya bagus.
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selisih harga brppan oom???klo medan si mampus oom,1:2 hargany oom.
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Paling aman test drive saja dulu semuanya. Kalau mesin diesel captiva sudah terbukti sanggup minum bio solar/solar subsidi.

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Lho?captiva vcdi "cuma" 327jt di jakarta?
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xtrail di bandung diskon gede lo, 31 jt.. jadi sama dengan GV
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aku di tawarin grand vitara 2.4 udah diskon kena 288juta hehe.. ya maksudnya gak beda2 jauh bnget ya.. kalo kena diskon kan lumayan .. maklum keluarga kecil cuma 3 orang
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Ikut nyimak, lg hunting jg soalnya.... :e-think:
Btw nunggu x trail facelift, katanya agstus mau keluar nih...
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naldo wrote:Fuel pump ancur, dan kalau bio solar menurut orang mitsu harus kuras fuel pump setiap 7500KM.

Kalau shell or pertadex palingan 15000KM sekali. Kebetulan ane pke mitsu pajero sport.

Dibanding fuel pump jebol ya mending isi solar sulfur rendah ama cetane numbernya bagus.

ah masa segitunya pak :e-think:

yg saya tahu banyak Triton bermasalah di sini kalau sudah pemakaian 1 tahun , rata rata jebol sistem bahan bakarnya entah injektor atau pumpnya emang resiko siapa suruh pake commonrail plus turbo tapi masih pake solar jadoel tahun 70an :wkkk: kita aja gak sadar mau kemakan iklan dan bayar pajak mobil baru ke pemerintah

tapi nurut saya arah industri udah berbeda , alat alat sekarang umur pakainya lebih pendek dibanding jaman dulu
Performa mesin berlipat ganda setiap 30 tahun
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Ya ini sih terserah mau ngikutin apa tidak. Toh saya cuma kasih tau fakta.

Cek aja di jalan banyak innova or fortuner diesel yang asepnya item semua. Bentar lagi ring piston kena, fuel pump jebol, common rail ancur, siap2 keluarin duit lebih dari 20 jeti. Banyak sekali di bengkel toyota yang kena seperti itu(ini kasus common rail diesel pke biosolar)

Kalau sudah common rail AKA modern diesel ya kudu bayar diesel yang lebih bagus. Dikasih biosolar ya hancur. Wong shell aja masih bisa bikin berasep(udah ane buktiin di pajero sport, shell berasep+lebih bau solarnya). Sekarang pke Total or Pertadex, jauh lebih bagus dari biosolar n shell.

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sepertiny biosolar di pertamina cm nama z de,yg lainy sama z.trus setau ane mbl diesel klo di bejek gas dalem2 pasti ttp kelietan asep item oom.
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naldo wrote:Ya ini sih terserah mau ngikutin apa tidak. Toh saya cuma kasih tau fakta.

Cek aja di jalan banyak innova or fortuner diesel yang asepnya item semua. Bentar lagi ring piston kena, fuel pump jebol, common rail ancur, siap2 keluarin duit lebih dari 20 jeti. Banyak sekali di bengkel toyota yang kena seperti itu(ini kasus common rail diesel pke biosolar)

Kalau sudah common rail AKA modern diesel ya kudu bayar diesel yang lebih bagus. Dikasih biosolar ya hancur. Wong shell aja masih bisa bikin berasep(udah ane buktiin di pajero sport, shell berasep+lebih bau solarnya). Sekarang pke Total or Pertadex, jauh lebih bagus dari biosolar n shell.

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kebetulan saya punya mobil jadoel pak, Taft GT F70 1990 sama Timor DOHC S515I 1997 ntar aja kali kalau udah pemerintah menghapus BBM subsidi kotor baru beli mobil baru :wkkk: :wkkk: :wkkk:
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tp emank solar di indo parah bgt.trus klo ane bilang cm di indo yg msh punya ron 88.di negara lain minimal 92 kekny.
seandainy solar di indo bgs pasti bnyk tu mbl2 mesin diesel,seperti xtrail,crv,gv.mesin 2.0turbo intercooler.tp daya kudany 160an.
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Sulfur rendah tidak akan berasap(BMW dll ga akan berasap kl dikasih solar bagus).

IMHO skg kita lagi ngomongin diesel modern/commonrail, makanya saya jelasin untuk yang ditanya TS, captiva vcdi.

Lain cerita kalau diesel model pan*her, itu dikasih minyak abis goreng dari mcd/KFC juga bisa, ga perlu mahal2 ke pertamina(sudah dibuktikan oleh fifth gear UK).

@henz
Emang biosolar parah banget, lebih dari 1000PPM sulfurnya. Sedangkan commonrail itu sebaiknya dibawah 500PPM kandungan sulfurnya, bahkan diesel eropa harus dibawah 300PPM. Sedangkan saat ini paling bagus cuma pertadex dimana sulfurnya 400PPM+61 cetane number(lainnya dibawah 55 cetane number).

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owwww.mungkin karena catalitic converter kali y mkny bs g berasep bgt,trus ane maw nanya oom,pernah g cium itu asep mbl2 diesel commonrail??ane rasa baukny seperti sawit bgt y??
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Hmm kalau urusan bau itu ane ga ngerti, tapi ane tau maksud bro.

Eniway back to topic, jadi ngomongin diesel disini.

Sorry om Mod..

Silahkan kasih penjelasan xtrail/crv/tucson/GV/captiva.

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