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konsumsi tipe GS yang AGS menurut test autobild hanya 1:15 dalkot dan 1:17 di tol..
masih bagus lah kalo dibanding ongkos mikirin pindah gigi & senam kopling.. apalgi buat istri tercinta.. yg butuh mobil ramping ngak pakai kopling..

http://test.autobild.co.id/read/2015/08 ... -Indonesia
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Numpang tanya oom...
Ada rencana mo nge gantiin livina xr 2008, nah pilihanya antara agya ayla matic or karimun ags gs ini... Mending mana ya oom?
Nyari irit, empuk dan nyaman...
Makasih masukan nya oom
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DhanZ wrote:Numpang tanya oom...
Ada rencana mo nge gantiin livina xr 2008, nah pilihanya antara agya ayla matic or karimun ags gs ini... Mending mana ya oom?
Nyari irit, empuk dan nyaman...
Makasih masukan nya oom
Mending KWR GS AGS dong om.
Agya ayla mh, dijamin sakit punggung,suspensi ga nyaman, boros (manual aj boros), posisi duduk lebih nyaman di kwr, peredaman jg, headroom jauh.

Minus nya: Model mungkin krng selera (IMHO), harga mmng lebih mahal KWR, fitur pun lebih dikit, pelayanan pastinya lebih bagus di agya ayla.
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oya tambahan lagi, diusia saya seakrang ini membuat saya hanya akan menggunakan mobil sesuai pabriknya ga ada istilah variasi variasi lagi apapun bentuknya.
jadi tetep pilihan terbaik mobil lcgc murah dengan transmisi otomatis adalah
kwr ags gs yah oom?
kalo jual kembalinya bagusan agya ayla atau karimun wagon r yah?
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Br pake mumun gl ags ini 1 minggu sofar enak.. mesin halus, posisi sekarang. Sdh 200km bensin isi full berkurang 3 bar.. sistem agsnya kalau sdh biasa enak juga, kalau awal pakai kayak ngeden gitu.. cuma memang suara ban berasa bgt..
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Gl ags dan gs ags bedanya dimana yaaa?
Sama celerio beda harganya jauh yah?
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DhanZ wrote:Gl ags dan gs ags bedanya dimana yaaa?
Sama celerio beda harganya jauh yah?
bedanya liat dari depan udh beda tampang om ..... gl belum projie lampu nya yg gs sudah projie tuh ....... gl belum 14'' gs sdh 14'' ...... kalo daleman nya nda begitu beda jauh rasa nya mending ambil gs sporty wanabe sudah di lengkapi power window untuk 2 kaca depan, trs spion electric ........ :mky_04:
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kemaren TD si gogon GL M/T, secara overall sih ane oke, cuma ada 1 hal yang mengganjal dan bikin ga enak:

Posisi pedal.

Kemarin TD siang2 hari minggu di jl a.yani surabaya, kaki kanan ane yg pegel. Posisi duduknya tinggi, tapi pedal gas terlalu maju. Alhasil kaki harus lebih tegak (tidak bisa selonjor), dan ini bikin capek otot kaki bagian depan karena harus menekuk terus ketika nempel pedal gas. sudah coba mundurin jok, tapi tetap aja ga enak, karena posisi sandaran harus lebih tegak supaya badan tidak terlalu jauh dari setir. jadinya punggung lebih cepat pegal.
Kaki harus menekuk tajam keatas untuk menginjak pedal gas, karena posisi kaki yang tegak dan lantai yang rendah. Kemarin sempat ngakalin dengan kasih ganjal pake sandal, lumayan tapi masih kurang. Penyakit ini sama dengan yg ane rasakan waktu dulu TD suzuki splash. Apa memang karakter suzuki seperti ini ya?

Setelah googling, ternyata banyak yang mengalami kasus serupa di forum splash (untuk KWR belum nemu), dan mengakali dengan ngasih ganjelan untuk meninggikan lantai, agar tumit bisa ditaruh dengan posisi lebih tinggi dan kaki tidak terlalu menekuk.

Apakah para pengguna KWR disini mengalami masalah serupa?


Lalu kemarin ketika TD, koplingnya terasa responsif banget. Abis injak full, lalu lepas dikit untuk maju, langsung nyentak. Seperti langsung terangkat banyak. Terlalu responsif menurut ane. Bisa disetel kah?
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Mamang555 wrote:Tadi pagi lewat Aston di TB Simatupang kayaknya mau ada launching Wagon R AGS secara banyak umbul2 AGS dan juga banyak unit test drive nya.

Ini maticnya mirip2 sama Celerio yang mau edar disini dong ya...ga ada posisi P nya (make sense sih kalo kata mod billy bahwa ini adalah manual yang di -matic kan).. so memang ga ada P. :D

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Kalo memang matic nya sama dengan Celerio di India... nih ada sedikit review dari teambhp
Understanding the AMT better:

• If you're in Drive and pull up the handbrake (say, at a traffic light), the clutch will automatically disengage. This is far more convenient than shifting to Neutral each time you stop. To start moving again, you need to lower the handbrake and press the accelerator. If you don't press the accelerator, the clutch will remain disengaged and the car could roll forwards or backwards (depending on the slope of the road).

• Further to the point above, for regular usage, there is no need to use Neutral, other than for starting the Celerio. Even when you're stationary in 'D', just engage the handbrake and it's as good as Neutral.

• Ask the gearbox to do anything that it doesn’t want to do, and you'll see the gear indicator blinking. Downshifting at too high an RPM? It will blink. Upshifting at too low an RPM? It will blink.

• If you're not in Neutral with the brake pedal pressed, the engine won't start. Instead, the car will blink the gear indicator and beep constantly.

• If you're in Neutral and shift to Drive without pressing the brake, the system beeps and the car remains in Neutral. The 'N' sign flashes and the brake icon shows up. You have to switch back to Neutral, press the brake and then select Drive.

• There is an audible clunk from the engine bay when you switch between Drive, Reverse & Neutral (but not when it shifts up or down gears in 'Drive' mode).

If you're lugging uphill (not pressing the accelerator) in 1st gear and the incline or load gets too much for the car, it won't stall like a manual transmission would. Instead, the AMT will just disengage the clutch and you start rolling backwards!

• If the AMT was tuned for comfort or smoothness (rather than fuel economy), it would prevent the transmission from getting confused at times, and having to hunt up and down gears so often.

Not sure how the AMT will behave once the clutch starts to wear out. Will AMT clutches have to be replaced sooner than MT clutches? Proper clutch service and setting will play an important role with the Celerio AMT. And remember, use the handbrake on inclines!

• Turning off the vehicle with the transmission in Neutral leaves you entirely reliant on the handbrake, when parked on an incline. We suggest you turn your Celerio off in either "D" or "R" instead, which will provide a secondary brake force (just like parking a manual car in 1st or Reverse).
bold .... rolling backward. ada pengalaman dengan ini ? tarik handbreak, atau ... pindahin kaki kiri ke rem dan kaki kanan siap2 di gas ? pada mode manual .... apakah terjadi rolling backward juga ?

blue ... ini yang baru bisa terjawab waktu. kalo mesti ganti mekanisme AMT nya, brapa cost nya ?

so far udah berapa km nih KWR AGS agan sekalian ?
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Xandox wrote:@kodok64,...

>>>>Tapi kalo udah masuk 120jt bisa tengok mobil lain 2nd yg taun muda itu, hehehe

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Mobil apa aja di rentang harga segitu dan taun muda ?
Klo kredit ..worth it ga ?
kalo seken banyak yang menyarankan jangan kredit, gan ....

harga segitu, tengok2 online ...
kira2 kalo HB dapat jazz 2008 atau yaris 2010
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1 tahun sudah pake Dilago, so far sh gk da masalah berarti, masih terbilang nyaman buat newbie seperti ane. dan juga suara mesin bisa dikatakan gk terdengar dari dalam.
cmn 1 yg gk enak, suara dari luar masih cukup terdengar.
wuzz...wuzz...wuzz nyaris tak terdengar.

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telytims wrote:Br pake mumun gl ags ini 1 minggu sofar enak.. mesin halus, posisi sekarang. Sdh 200km bensin isi full berkurang 3 bar.. sistem agsnya kalau sdh biasa enak juga, kalau awal pakai kayak ngeden gitu.. cuma memang suara ban berasa bgt..
domisili dimana om?
wuzz...wuzz...wuzz nyaris tak terdengar.

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CakOpiq wrote:FC untuk GS/AGS blm test om, tidak ada di display dan blm pernah full tank. Mungkin tidak sehemat tipe dibawahnya yang pakai ban 145/80R13. Bawaan orok GS 175/65R14, lbh lebar harusnya lbh nggigit dan lbh boros aplg yg buat yg suka injek rem nempelin motor-motor yg nyerimpetin jalan ane. Tp rasanya emang pelan banget turunnya bar bengsin :D

Sensasi paling asiknya adalah: di belokan bisa asik-asik senggolan istri disamping.. dan kita berempat (2 anak) serasa lebih dekat/intim.

Btw, kebiasaan pakai si bongsor atoyot ane kehilangan kenyamanan di:
1. Tuas persneling kenapa ngak di dashboard aja sih.. dan sekalian handbrake pindahin ke kaki kiri.. ruangan jd lega & lbh flexible.
2. lokasi handbrake dan persneling kan bisa jd kursi atau armrest.. tak mengapa kaloupun optional. Berkendara dgn menapakkan kedua tangan diatas armrest sangat membantu kesantaian...
3. sudah tahu boil ini kecil bagasi kecil, knp kursi belakangnya ngak dibikin bisa rata biar bisa muat bawa MEJA masuk cabin.. :D. Pernal lihat estilo bisa masak ini ngak bisa.

http://www.autolanka.com/files/05-2015/ ... _large.jpg
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Do'a ane berikutnya adalah: Smoga Allah beri kemampuan kebeli yg lbh multi fungsi semisal ini:
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domisili dimana om?
wuzz...wuzz...wuzz nyaris tak terdengar.

sangat irit dan kuat !!!!!!!!!!!!
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telytims wrote:Br pake mumun gl ags ini 1 minggu sofar enak.. mesin halus, posisi sekarang. Sdh 200km bensin isi full berkurang 3 bar.. sistem agsnya kalau sdh biasa enak juga, kalau awal pakai kayak ngeden gitu.. cuma memang suara ban berasa bgt..
Konsumsi BBM nya karimun AGS berapa om, baik pake mode otomatis ataupun manualnya ? dalkot berapa ? Tol berapa ? apa termasuk hemat di banding dua agya -ayla
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Kalau agya saya ga tau. Tapi kalau ayla iritan karimun ... saya rute tangerang jkt tiap hr. Isi pertamax 10hr sekali. 230rban
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apakah ags sama spt regular autotrans yg tdk mau ignition/engine ON kalo shifter position masih D atau R?
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Seharusnya sih ttp ada PNP (park-neutral position) Switch spy ga langsung jalan kl distart ... atau mungkin harus injak rem kl di D/R dan begitu engine run posisi clutch automatically in release position.
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mobil bgitu disini ga ada yg lbh dr twin seater .... disebut quadricycle ..... engine cap dibatasi 49.9cc ..... exhaust pipe diameter sebesar ujung botol coke/pepsi ......

ada yg diesel .... hybrid ..... EV

bagusnya cuma satu ..... street legal tanpa sim n bole driven by anyone with minimum age of 15 yo ....

cukup pasang plaat nomor n hrs operate by registered owner meski bole di pakai oleh registered owner lain pemilik unit quadricycle lain .... tdk ada annual tax atau roadtax n insurance per annum skitar € 15 -20

jeleknya ada ..... starting price cuma lbh murah dikit (€ 7,400) drpd mobil termurah (dacia sandero 4door hatch manual € 7,900)
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Yg sudah lama pakai wagon apa ada update info? Wagon sy sudah hampir 4 th dan km sudah 50 rb, sofar tdk ada kendala berarti....
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Py saya 4 thn 40 rb km, masih nyaman dipakai. sempet diganti per ceper, alhasil shok depan dan belakang cepet jebol. Skarang saya balikan kondisi standar, jauh lebih nyaman utk harian.
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Fearised wrote: 12 Jan 2018, 23:26 Py saya 4 thn 40 rb km, masih nyaman dipakai. sempet diganti per ceper, alhasil shok depan dan belakang cepet jebol. Skarang saya balikan kondisi standar, jauh lebih nyaman utk harian.
punya om yg MT atau yg AGS?
di tahun ke 4 apakah ada rattle di interior?
suara peredaman total setelah tahun ke 4 bagaimana om
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Punya saya tipe terendah GA non eps,
MT. Modif velg r14 175/65 brio. tidak ada rattle dari dashboard, cuma suara per dari jok, entah dari slidingnya. Peredaman cukup baik s.d sekarang, cuma dimodif pasang selang akuarium di karet balonnya. Dari awal pake pertamax, mesin oke om jos gandos, apalagi setelah dikorek dikit atas bimbingan suhu di wagon r indo. Cukup puas om pake gogon.
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Punya temen malah ada yang sudah tembus 90k+ km, masih oke oke saja tuh. Build quality dll cukup baiklah
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tebeer wrote: 17 Mar 2016, 19:26
Mamang555 wrote:Tadi pagi lewat Aston di TB Simatupang kayaknya mau ada launching Wagon R AGS secara banyak umbul2 AGS dan juga banyak unit test drive nya.

Ini maticnya mirip2 sama Celerio yang mau edar disini dong ya...ga ada posisi P nya (make sense sih kalo kata mod billy bahwa ini adalah manual yang di -matic kan).. so memang ga ada P. :D

Image

Kalo memang matic nya sama dengan Celerio di India... nih ada sedikit review dari teambhp
Understanding the AMT better:

• If you're in Drive and pull up the handbrake (say, at a traffic light), the clutch will automatically disengage. This is far more convenient than shifting to Neutral each time you stop. To start moving again, you need to lower the handbrake and press the accelerator. If you don't press the accelerator, the clutch will remain disengaged and the car could roll forwards or backwards (depending on the slope of the road).

• Further to the point above, for regular usage, there is no need to use Neutral, other than for starting the Celerio. Even when you're stationary in 'D', just engage the handbrake and it's as good as Neutral.

• Ask the gearbox to do anything that it doesn’t want to do, and you'll see the gear indicator blinking. Downshifting at too high an RPM? It will blink. Upshifting at too low an RPM? It will blink.

• If you're not in Neutral with the brake pedal pressed, the engine won't start. Instead, the car will blink the gear indicator and beep constantly.

• If you're in Neutral and shift to Drive without pressing the brake, the system beeps and the car remains in Neutral. The 'N' sign flashes and the brake icon shows up. You have to switch back to Neutral, press the brake and then select Drive.

• There is an audible clunk from the engine bay when you switch between Drive, Reverse & Neutral (but not when it shifts up or down gears in 'Drive' mode).

If you're lugging uphill (not pressing the accelerator) in 1st gear and the incline or load gets too much for the car, it won't stall like a manual transmission would. Instead, the AMT will just disengage the clutch and you start rolling backwards!

• If the AMT was tuned for comfort or smoothness (rather than fuel economy), it would prevent the transmission from getting confused at times, and having to hunt up and down gears so often.

Not sure how the AMT will behave once the clutch starts to wear out. Will AMT clutches have to be replaced sooner than MT clutches? Proper clutch service and setting will play an important role with the Celerio AMT. And remember, use the handbrake on inclines!

• Turning off the vehicle with the transmission in Neutral leaves you entirely reliant on the handbrake, when parked on an incline. We suggest you turn your Celerio off in either "D" or "R" instead, which will provide a secondary brake force (just like parking a manual car in 1st or Reverse).
bold .... rolling backward. ada pengalaman dengan ini ? tarik handbreak, atau ... pindahin kaki kiri ke rem dan kaki kanan siap2 di gas ? pada mode manual .... apakah terjadi rolling backward juga ?

blue ... ini yang baru bisa terjawab waktu. kalo mesti ganti mekanisme AMT nya, brapa cost nya ?

so far udah berapa km nih KWR AGS agan sekalian ?
masalah rolling backward, sempat alamin di tanjakan jl cidangiang bogor yg sempit berkelok tajam + antrian kendaraan keluar masuk mall botani square...

solusinya lebih mudah stay di N + handbrake, masukin ke D atau M1, gas dulu baru turunin handbrake, daripada kaki kiri di rem...

so far baru jalan 74km selama 4 hari pemakaian
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Di Indiahe sudah facelift nih si wagonR kirain bakalan balik ke roots JDM ga taunya begini tampangnya
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