Mengapa Sulit Runtuhkan Dominasi Avanza-Innova?

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Felixz_Yaris wrote:
audimr wrote:Avanza diciptakan sesuai dengan kebutuhan indonesia, jalan jelek naik turut dan banjir serta muat banyak..

Kalo ngomongin stabilitas, berarti ngomongin pada saat ngebut. Yang dimana bukan tujuan avanza (atau SUV diciptakan). Sebaiknya kalo ngomongin stabilitas ya ngambil sedan hatchback dll

Sebenernya kalo ngomongin stabilitas bisa aja dengan menggunakan per aftermarket atau pemasangan strutbar swaybar, ban dengan tapak lebih lebar, kelar masalah.

Sebenernya gw pake sepupunya si avanza yaitu rush, pengen banget ganti mobil ke hatchback atau sedan, soalnya hasrat ngebut tidak tersampaikan, meskipun kadang skrg juga nyetir suka berbahaya (diatas 120-140 tempel2in yaris jazz yg banyak gaya di tol). Cuma skrg lagi musim ujan, kmrn aja liat genangan di tb simatupang abis ujan aja suka ngeri sendiri padahal genangan ngga tinggi2 banget..
Tidak selalu om. Mobil HB sedan stabil pas ngebut.. Altis, pios, yaris limbung, ntah camry limbung juga gak. Semua itu tergantung karakter suspensi dan GC. Ada mpv yg gak limbung, stream .. :mrgreen:
Karakter suspensi toyota rata2 empuk sih... Sampe bikin limbung, termasuk altis & camry... :big_slap:

Honda rata2 stabil, namun keras... :ungg:
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CRV gw stabil loh...tp empuk...
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Buat suspensi sih yg penting tersedia aftermarket-nya, mobil2 Jepun mah rata2 shock std nya ga ada yg memuaskan, including kelas Lexus sedan / SUV sekalipun (kecuali ft86 / R35 )

HotBits DT-1 utk Pansah juga ada

*bukan seles HB*
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Honda sekarang kyknya mulai rada empuk ya... Accord baru & CR-V RM ini contohnya :mky_01:



Hmm, jadi seperti apa ya avanza kalo dikasih shock HB DT-1... :ungg:
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Honda yg assembling sini shock nya buatan Showa yg lokal

Sucks lah......mrk tekanin cost cutting
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Yaris, vios n altis.... suspensi belakangnya kacau, masih pake torsion beam

Lain hal nya dengan camry yg pk multilink atau fiss... klo afa yg bilang camry limbung sih nga,, tp handlingnya jelek, karena mobil berat segede gabanditambah tinggi

*bedakan limbung dengan handling yak*

Klo hondah rata2 pk h beam,,, klo yg pernah liat kolong crv gen 1 atau 2 yg kolongnya keliatan banget ... ada seperi palang dari roda kiri ke kanan dan ada seperti huruh H tp kebalik... bisa dikategotikan spt tb , namun lebih independent dikit


Selama ini yg pling independen ya mc person... dan yg paling busuk rigid axle yg dipake axven, rush, innopa, taruna, dan saudara astralnya

Klo keras tidaknya bantingan adalah settingan dari absorber nya... dengan tipe apa dulu tuh ab, dan tekanan brapa
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Honda CityZ, mini sedan trakhir dari Honda yg pake Independent suspension...

Sejak City Aria, sesuai dgn post om Turbo, Honda cutting cost gila2an, dan akhirnya pake H beam kalo ga salah ingat... atau torsion ya?

Anyway, ttp not good. Independent suspension CityZ ttp terajib di kelasnya. :mky_02:
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City aria kalo ga salah torsion beam...

Camry ane rasa sih floaty gitu yak, kurang napak dgn aspal... :mky_01: (XV30)
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Citi z udah full independent??

Buset dah bagaimana seriusnya mobil pada era 1990 an smp 2000 an ,, memang beberapa boil streetrace jepang sprt mazdah , lancer, hondah dengan civic, atau toyota dengan gti nya,, bahkan merembes smp sedan ug biasa2 aja...hehe

belom lagi sport car sprt s2k, celica, mx 5, evolution dkk

semuanya benar2 semangat juang 90

Semua benar2 mengedepankan performa dan kenyamanan, ga kaya sekarang, org hanya lihat dari body. Tp jeroan belom tentu lebih baik
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CityZ full independen, bro walid... :mrgreen:
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Corolla balik ke Torsion Beam itu Corolla Altis.
Kalo All New Corolla malah pake independent
Monggo mampir ke blog saya http://yahyakurniawan.net
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@Bro kodok

Xv 30 udah pernah ganti absorber blom?maklum udah lama bgt jadi kesan floaty sangat tetasa... xv 30 ane juga sprt itu.. pengen ganti ab , tp estimasi harga 20 jeti... hahah,

itu disebabkan shock lemah atau kompresi udah kurang , ahirnya rebound yang harusnya selesai 1 kali bisa sampe 3 kali atau lebih, dan kerasa di jalan bergelombag

ditambah ring 16 di boil segaban gini,, lengkap sudah deh ... heheh.. kaya digendong buat tidur
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Hufff...sayang Aria dst ga bisa posisi tripod pas belok patah :ungg:, city type z aja bisa. Clarkson pernah komplen pas review lastgen T-R dan di compare dg predecessornya.

@Kodok: dlm waktu depan saya mau coba bikin kaku si kaleng :mky_02:, dimulai dari trio bar...sukur sukur ada sisa bwt per progressive :mky_03:
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amfibi wrote:City aria kalo ga salah torsion beam...

Camry ane rasa sih floaty gitu yak, kurang napak dgn aspal... :mky_01: (XV30)
Ya iya lah, sasisnya ga nempel sama aspal :mky_02:
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Shocknya sudah diganti baru om :mrgreen:

Kayaknya sih emang karakternya gitu ya...

@bro iming : Ditunggu hasilnya bro :mky_02:
Sekarang full standart yak avanza ente?
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Kamsud ane saking empuknya nih mbl, sampe berasa floaty gitu... :mky_01:

Rav ane masih terasa lebih nempel dari camry ini... (suspensi dia jg FISS)
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Kaki sama mesin full standaran broo...paling poles pokes dikit, mssih dlm 3 tahun garansi soalnya ahahahahaha...amiinn dlm waktu dekat lah
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amfibi wrote:Kamsud ane saking empuknya nih mbl, sampe berasa floaty gitu... :mky_01:

Rav ane masih terasa lebih nempel dari camry ini... (suspensi dia jg FISS)
RAV4 nya order yang TOM'S punya kali :mky_03:
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Xixixix... :big_slap:
Dulu pas pake lowering kit,.ajib bener handling si RAV4 ini... :mky_03:
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Kalo di CityZ, jangankan posisi Tripod... WoT dan MoT pun bisa... :mky_02:

*eh, bentar. Ini bahas apa toh?* :ngacir:
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Sudah sudah... BTT!


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Kodok: tuh ken bener :mky_03:


Om [cencored] :mky_03: : errrr...gaple om :mky_04:
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Woman on top?

Brarti meme2 cantik ente taruh diatas cup,, eh kap atas city.. buset dah itu city
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................. :ngacir:
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Pantes kap city z dempulnya tebel banget..banyak dekok kecil :upss: