Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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gile canggih jg baleno pake coil-over-plug..mesin M15A?
injectionnya multiport/sequential (sekali semprot 2 injektor) yaks? atau satu satu?
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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nah idsi itu 8 coil 8 busi.., juga merc v6 12 busi.
nescafe wrote:hoo.. i see.. brarti ga bisa diganti pakai coil yg di aftermarket itu yah.. :e-think:
syg sekali, padahal gw ada quantum fireball nganggur.. :(
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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avansa wrote:Saya awali mencopot part no 23 ,
nah mari kita deskripsikan dengan sepengetahuan masing masing,saling koreksi dan saya tinggal menyimpulkan saja
Yang ini kapan di bahasnya,...?
Kalau engine untuk modif kayaknya belon kepengin,soalnya untuk "test drive high speed" fasilitasnya nggak ada.Nggak ada jalan bebas hambatan alias Tol di kota saya :mrgreen:
kalau untuk body baru kepengen
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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ya merc M112 pake 2 busi, buat irit/multifiring + emisi, tapi harus balik ke SOHC..cuma ngakalin di intake tract yang bisa panjang pendek (intake M112 termasuk yg paling panjang) buat napasnya si mesin. walhasil tetep aja dodol tuh mesin dibanding M104 :D :D

mesin jazz idsi itu SOHC apa DOHC yak? mustinya SOHC karena dobel busi
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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Idsi = Sohc 2 valve/cyl.
iya yg 2 busi/cyl mostly valvetrain nya SOHC krn sempitnya penampang kubah ruang bakar dll; tapi AlfaRomeo "Twinspark" ini sepertinya DOHC, 2 busi /cyl juga ga yah?
oh ternyata alfaromeo twinspark ada 2 : dohc 2valve/cyl dan dohc 4valve/cyl (muat juga):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo ... ark_engine

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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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muat sih kalo dimuat2in
audi pernah coba mesin 5-valve tapi single plug
alfa twinspark kayanya banyakan DOHC, hi rev sesuai dgn itali-nya yang suka triak2
tapi rasanya lebih ke econo sih tepatnya, pake satu busi pas di dome udah cukup..multi firing..

kayanya udah ga terlalu rame pake multi busi sejak mulai ramenya variable intake cam adjustment (panos, pipitiai, pitek, dll)
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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baleno ini bukan M15A, tapi Bseries (kalo ga salah), aneh juga nih serinya "B" secara basis mesin 1500cc nya ini dari Gseries nya.
yg pakai M15A itu baleno yg next-g (&aerio), ini juga 2cyl/coil.

injectornya multi-port.
iwang wrote:gile canggih jg baleno pake coil-over-plug..mesin M15A?
injectionnya multiport/sequential (sekali semprot 2 injektor) yaks? atau satu satu?
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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wadoh malah jadi mubeng kepala neh....Iya ngaku neh mobil ane masih SOHC,kalau yang nex G udah DOHC.
Wadoh jangan pada menyimpang kemana mana dung,kita bahas mesin yang udah di depan mata ajah,udah kebelet pengen buka bukaan toh mesin tapi kalau belon mengerti benar teorinya kan malah jadi berabeh,
emang apa ada bengkel yang cuman ngelayanin untuk tanya jawab mesin wekeke.. :big_weee:
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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kita perhatikan potongan bagian mesin ini yang no atu udah paham,yang no 2 dan 3,aku setuju itu koil,lah yang no 24,itu busi,lah berarti businya 2 kah? ciri khas mesin SOCH, trus Koil yang no 3 itu di bawahnya terhubung ke apa..?
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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avansa wrote:kita perhatikan potongan bagian mesin ini yang no atu udah paham,yang no 2 dan 3,aku setuju itu koil,lah yang no 24,itu busi,lah berarti businya 2 kah? ciri khas mesin SOCH, trus Koil yang no 3 itu di bawahnya terhubung ke apa..?
Aduuuuhhhh bro avansa ini, yg di bawah koil yg no 3 itu isinye juga busi............... bukan permen ato kerupuk................ :big_weee: :big_weee:
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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makanya namanya coiloverplug, coilnya langsung nempel diatas busi. salah satu yang pake coilover itu di BMW mesin M50/M52 keatas...ada 6 koil untuk 6 silinder.
kalau mesin ini pake 2 koil untuk 4 silinder, jadi satu koil dua silinder..

coba cari2 pdf di internet banyak tuh, mengenai permesinan dan layoutnya, saya dulu belajar banyak dari download2..toyota, nissan, volvo dsb
kl ga salah toyota banyak di automotive 101 dah..lupa websitenya
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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iwang wrote:makanya namanya coiloverplug, coilnya langsung nempel diatas busi. salah satu yang pake coilover itu di BMW mesin M50/M52 keatas...ada 6 koil untuk 6 silinder.
kalau mesin ini pake 2 koil untuk 4 silinder, jadi satu koil dua silinder..

coba cari2 pdf di internet banyak tuh, mengenai permesinan dan layoutnya, saya dulu belajar banyak dari download2..toyota, nissan, volvo dsb
kl ga salah toyota banyak di automotive 101 dah..lupa websitenya
Yups tampilkan segera di sini,atau paling enggak linknya ke sini :big_smoking:

Bro Sjam.....Mastiin aja dung soalnya configurasi dengan mesin avansa beda banget,letas aki di sebelah kiri.
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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avansa wrote:Bro Sjam.....Mastiin aja dung soalnya configurasi dengan mesin avansa beda banget,letas aki di sebelah kiri.
letas aki di sebelah kiri, mungkin yg dimaksud dik avansa adalah LETAK aki di sebelah kiri. Secara pemikiran seorang propesssooorrrr aki itu harus selalu teliti .................. :big_weee:
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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ada neh linknya
http://www.autoshop101.com/autoshop15.html
pdf semua tuh, tinggal download
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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sekalian tambahin lagi dah:
posisi kutub/terminal posisif aki itu selalu di sebelah dalam ruang mesin;
kalo aki nya di kiri, positifnya diposisikan di kanan;
kalo aki nya di kanan, positifnya diposisikan di kiri.
tujuannya agar makin jauh dari kap mesin, dimana sisi luar kap ruang mesin cenderung rendah.
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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kalo tuyutah ada neh grit korola
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:D :D baleno ada ga ye :D :D
dari corolland.com :D
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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avansa wrote:kita perhatikan potongan bagian mesin ini yang no atu udah paham,yang no 2 dan 3,aku setuju itu koil,lah yang no 24,itu busi,lah berarti businya 2 kah? ciri khas mesin SOCH, trus Koil yang no 3 itu di bawahnya terhubung ke apa..?
skemanya seperti ini,tulung dung referensi seputar part ini.
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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bawahnya itu kan colokan langsung ke busi..
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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GTR wrote:bawahnya itu kan colokan langsung ke busi..
Yups ok Bro tanks.
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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sjamsul wrote:
poeticmind wrote:busi... pake standar aja, kalo mesin standar. ga usah pake yg aneh2. :)
Setuju banget neh, apalagi klo pake kabel busi racing dah mahal kualitasnyapun kadang2 meragukan. :e-doh:
banyak yg tidak tahu kalo kabel busi jaman sekarang sudah sama bagus dengan replacement harga ratusan rb diatasnya.
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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yg d maksud dg 'kabel busi jaman sekarang' itu maksudnya kabel busi aftermarket spek racing ato yg ori ato yg gmana oom?
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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sepertinya yg dimaksud pak poetic, yg ori jaman skrg omm doq...
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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utk baleno 1.6 yg msh menggunakan single coil.....klo mo d ubah dg system COP spt d atas kira2 apa aja yg mesti ikut berubah ya? ada yg bs bantu oom? :thanks:
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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@nes: ok ok.....jd g perlu ganti kabel busi spek racing klo mo bikin pengapian lbh lancar ya?
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Re: Tanya bagian mesin Baleno 2002

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`hmm.. iya, sepertinya begitu, oom doq..
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