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Re: Cara mengetahui apakah C250 2012 itu AVG atau AMG atau Classic

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farizfsa wrote:
Nubiedimercy wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 14:22 Selamat malam suhu suhu disini,
Sebelumnya kenalkan saya nubie di mbl eropa, baru ambil W204 C250, namun saya bingung ini apakah AMG atau avg atau malah classic type, gimana caranya untuk mengetahui type apa?

Terima kasih
Kl ga salah c250 w204 yg masuk indo cuma varian amg pack aja
Setau saya ada yg c250 non amg om yang gaada sunroofnya
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Chris001 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 14:44 Malem... mau tanya om" ini w204 saya kalo nyala mesin pertama kok fan bunyi kenceng tapi kalo udah jalan lama" ilang" sendiri? Ada yang ngalamin juga?
Posisi ac nyala atau mati ketika mau nyalakan mesin?
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Re: Cara mengetahui apakah C250 2012 itu AVG atau AMG atau Classic

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Chris001 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 14:45
farizfsa wrote:
Nubiedimercy wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 14:22 Selamat malam suhu suhu disini,
Sebelumnya kenalkan saya nubie di mbl eropa, baru ambil W204 C250, namun saya bingung ini apakah AMG atau avg atau malah classic type, gimana caranya untuk mengetahui type apa?

Terima kasih
Kl ga salah c250 w204 yg masuk indo cuma varian amg pack aja
Setau saya ada yg c250 non amg om yang gaada sunroofnya
malah baru tau dan belum pernah nemu satupun c250 atpm indo atau di indo yg non amg pack, mungkin mobil dubes sy gatau deh.
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Hansen wrote:
Chris001 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 14:44 Malem... mau tanya om" ini w204 saya kalo nyala mesin pertama kok fan bunyi kenceng tapi kalo udah jalan lama" ilang" sendiri? Ada yang ngalamin juga?
Posisi ac nyala atau mati ketika mau nyalakan mesin?
Posisi mati / nyala sama om kaya ada fan yg nyala bunyinya keras ga kaya biasanya
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Chris001 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 13:12 ------------ bunyinya keras ga kaya biasanya
ga kaya biasanya bisa artinya masuk FSF (fail-safe function) mode; fan disuruh oleh ECM nyala at max speed krn ECM tdk mendapat sinyal yg diperlukan (bisa ECT (engine coolant temp sensor faulty, relay atau fuse, dsb). Saran connect ke scan tool baca trouble codes krn kl memang ect fault akan nge-flag trouble codes.

*bukan ahli, cuma kasih ide aja
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Chris001 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 13:12 ------------ bunyinya keras ga kaya biasanya
ga kaya biasanya bisa artinya masuk FSF (fail-safe function) mode; fan disuruh oleh ECM nyala at max speed krn ECM tdk mendapat sinyal yg diperlukan (bisa ECT (engine coolant temp sensor faulty, relay atau fuse, dsb). Saran connect ke scan tool baca trouble codes krn kl memang ect fault akan nge-flag trouble codes.

*bukan ahli, cuma kasih ide aja
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
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Adipitono wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 15:27 Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
Cek star diag,

Bisa jadi itu camshaft positioning sensor, atau camshaft kena. Bs 15 jtan worse case
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Adipitono wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 15:27 Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
bukan suhu cuma pernah baca itu penyakit cgi engine ..... yg kena bisa bagian timing chain dan tensionernya .... atau bagian variable valve timing systemnya. kl yg kena vvt drivability nya ga enak, bensin boros dan check engine nyala

selain krn memang penyakit bawaan diperparah dgn suka telat ganti oli dan/atau pakai oli yg dibawah recommended spec
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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farizfsa wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 15:48 [quote=Adipitono post_id=<a href="tel:1094669">1094669</a> time=<a href="tel:1575559644">1575559644</a> user_id=57503]
Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
Cek star diag,

Bisa jadi itu camshaft positioning sensor, atau camshaft kena. Bs 15 jtan worse case
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Problem solved om, setelah scaning ternyata minta ganti camshaft adjuster sama puly gigi... total total sama ganti oli sekalian 14jt an... mudah mudahan ga ada jajan jajan yg berat lagi habis ini 😅
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Jangan sampai basahin mesin sampai ECU jebol, om. Bisa kena 20-25jt. Kebetulan saya dapat paket promo dari PRO Motor jadi cuma kena 15jt.
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Adipitono wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 15:27 Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
Punya saya jg C200 2013 begitu om rada getar waktu cold start, tapi hanya beberapa detik aja sih udh gitu ilang. Normal kah?
Udah di scan tapi no fault sih. :big_think: :big_childish:
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Mulsanne wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:34
Adipitono wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 15:27 Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
Punya saya jg C200 2013 begitu om rada getar waktu cold start, tapi hanya beberapa detik aja sih udh gitu ilang. Normal kah?
Udah di scan tapi no fault sih. :big_think: :big_childish:
Sepertinya normal om.. c200 sy juga bgitu kalau cold start
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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gils wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:28
Mulsanne wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:34
Adipitono wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 15:27 Malam suhu suhu...newbie mau tanya
Saya baru ambil w204 c200 cgi 2011
Ada keluhan saat setiap stater awal ada bunyi "kretek2" sekitar 2 detik lalu hilang... sama saat suhu dingin dan stater awal mobil rada getar, saat suhu nya sudah di atas 80 baru hilang... kira kira apanya ya?
Termakasih sebelumnya, mohon infonya 🙏🏼
Punya saya jg C200 2013 begitu om rada getar waktu cold start, tapi hanya beberapa detik aja sih udh gitu ilang. Normal kah?
Udah di scan tapi no fault sih. :big_think: :big_childish:
Sepertinya normal om.. c200 sy juga bgitu kalau cold start
Ok makasih om. Soal kaget denger diatas katanya kaya gitu rusak habis 15jtaan :big_childish:
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Iya, ganti timing gears kena 15jtan. Masalah ketahuan saat start mesin (ignition) ada bunyi tambahan beberapa detik di mesin. Lama2 bunyinya makin panjang.
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Mau tanya, kalo parking brake W204 memang karakter nya kurang pakem apa punya saya udah tipis mungkin kampas nya? :big_bored:

Kalo di posisi gigi N terus udh injek parking brake sampe mentok. Kok masih bisa maju ya, kebetulan parkir rumah agak menurun posisi nya.

Normal kah? Sebab biasa pake mbl Jepang yg jauh lbh murah kelasnya ga begitu. :mky_01:
Kalo misal ga wajar, apakah mngkin mbl baru 30rb record udh tipis kampas nya? Biaya nya berapa ya untuk ganti kampas? :big_think:
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Mulsanne wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:57
gils wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:28
Mulsanne wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:34

Punya saya jg C200 2013 begitu om rada getar waktu cold start, tapi hanya beberapa detik aja sih udh gitu ilang. Normal kah?
Udah di scan tapi no fault sih. :big_think: :big_childish:
Sepertinya normal om.. c200 sy juga bgitu kalau cold start
Ok makasih om. Soal kaget denger diatas katanya kaya gitu rusak habis 15jtaan :big_childish:
itu msh biasa 15 juta...


setir coba aja rasain ada speleng bnyk gak posisi mesin mati...

seingat 50 juta itu stering rak...

yahhh uang segitu biasalah klo main logo bintang....
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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15 jt tuh dpt apa aja sih .... kl pengen bagus kan sekalian dibuka ganti (while you're in there kind of thing); water pump, serpentine belt, etc etc.... atau typical as cheap as possible

dilema oh dilemaaa memang
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carzone wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:10 Jangan sampai basahin mesin sampai ECU jebol, om. Bisa kena 20-25jt. Kebetulan saya dapat paket promo dari PRO Motor jadi cuma kena 15jt.
terakhir gw ganti part disini...mungkin 1 taun lalu...kesal n ngoceh...


akhirnya diskon 10 persen...beli n ganti bayar sendiri

walo tetap kesal...klo marah kepanjangan kasian jg mereka cuma pegawai...

karena mereka bilang sudah SOP..


sangat konyol pake banget....



duit 1 karung jg cepat habisnya mobil beginian n sebangsanya
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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Mana tahaaannn biaya serpisnye ye... :big_smile]

Yang bisa miara nih boil yg duitnye model tisu... dicabut nongol lagi... dicabut nongol lagi...
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pada apes2 amat perasaan

dulu make bintang w204 c200 kompre cgi mbl jalan terus perawatan rutin, geber sana sini aman, mana mobil ceper
pake w212 ecu panggang aman sampe km 150rb lalu dijual

cuma ganti oli2 aja sama filter.

ga ada tu timing chain, cam adjuster, steering rack dll.

mbl eropa mah dipake aja, pain beli mbl mahal2 cuma buat pajangan garasi.
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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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tauk tuhhhh....


gw pake w204 sampe 150 ribuan km....sampe retak 1 pelek n peyang semuanya....

setir sampe speleng...cornering bisa setir ke kiri mobil masih lurus.... mungkin di kirain mobil belakang lg show off drifting...:wkkk:

kmrn 167 ribuan km rusak sensor sealbelt depan kanan kiri...mahallll booooooi


slebihnya jual ajalah puas pake...



drpd nanti diperbudak mobil kt om gajah turbo.... :big_weee:


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Dogies wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:07 Mana tahaaannn biaya serpisnye ye... :big_smile]

Yang bisa miara nih boil yg duitnye model tisu... dicabut nongol lagi... dicabut nongol lagi...
yoi...

tapi kalo sekedar mahal masih wajar om....

rusak apa di cas kerjaan apa...


sudah SOP ktnya...


biar tambah2 kerjaan aja....


klo abis garansi mending ke bengkel spesialis lah...


ky teman yang beli w205 sudah dikasih tau nanti servis ke spesialis....
cuma ganti oli ke toda aja...


gaya ikutin servis rutin resmi....bbrp x resmi


akhirnya ngeluh...bengek juga isi dompet.... :wkkk:



gw aja pake kijang habis garansi malas ke bengkel auto 2000....


rasanya mahal....nanti berasa diperbudak mobil....


salam anti diperbudak mobil....


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Re: Tanya mercedes w204

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farizfsa wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:15 pada apes2 amat perasaan

dulu make bintang w204 c200 kompre cgi mbl jalan terus perawatan rutin, geber sana sini aman, mana mobil ceper
pake w212 ecu panggang aman sampe km 150rb lalu dijual

cuma ganti oli2 aja sama filter.

ga ada tu timing chain, cam adjuster, steering rack dll.

mbl eropa mah dipake aja, pain beli mbl mahal2 cuma buat pajangan garasi.
sy juga sih om Alhamdulillah sampe skrg belom pernah kena masalah pegang ni 204, (jangan sampe). Padahal beli seken juga.. skrg mobil udh mau masuk ke taun 9..hampir tiap hari dipake, dulu buat ngantor, skrg di pake istri.. sy pake ertiga aja

mau di jual ganti sedan jepangan yg mudaan kok sayang2 mobil nya masih enak banget.. apalagi kalau habis pake ertiga terus nyetir ini hahahaha.. apa karena ini mobil eropa pertama sy ya jadi gimanaa gitu pas bawa
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tik tok tik tok berasa ada bom waktu di dalam dompet wkwkwkwk

semua memang hrs ngerasain dulu..... yg tetap bertahan dialah pemenangnya..... krn emang duitnya ga berseri hahahahaha