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HU terbaru dari alpine CDA-9884E dimana HU ini sudah dapat mengoperasikan USB! 3 pre out RCA and fullface
trus untuk Clarion seri terbarunya ada 2 biji, DXZ-586USB dan DXZ-786USB. keduanya sudah bisa USB maupun IPOD. [perbedaanya 786USB sudaH ada time alignmentnmya....
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audiomodif wrote:HU terbaru dari alpine CDA-9884E dimana HU ini sudah dapat mengoperasikan USB! 3 pre out RCA and fullface
trus untuk Clarion seri terbarunya ada 2 biji, DXZ-586USB dan DXZ-786USB. keduanya sudah bisa USB maupun IPOD. [perbedaanya 786USB sudaH ada time alignmentnmya....
Sorry bos mo tanya, ada info kapan CDA-9886-nya available ? Soalnya kan 9886 dah ada TA-nya kan jadi seimbang sama DXZ-786USB.

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sayang... DXZ-786USB belum support wav...
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^^ alpine dah support file berektensi wav yah.... blom pernah cuba.... :mrgreen:
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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786USB brp duit tuh bos?
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itulah... beda, bro... file wav bisa dibilang salah satu yg tertinggi kualitas rekaman nya... kalo masih mp3, mp4, wma, aac dst ada yg hilang detailnya...
wav (1411 kbps) sebagai based utk semua files...

kalo aja ada head unit yg bisa play APE/FLAC... wah... heaven! :)

or, DAT. ... wew! :)
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satyr wrote:786USB brp duit tuh bos?
satiawgo lah... kisaran.
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poeticmind wrote:sayang... DXZ-786USB belum support wav...
bro poeticmind, kan DXZ-786USB dah support direct ipod usb connection, bisa ngga mainin ipod lossless compression yah ?

Btw HU -yang dah support wav apa aja sih bro ?
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ekokw wrote:
audiomodif wrote:HU terbaru dari alpine CDA-9884E dimana HU ini sudah dapat mengoperasikan USB! 3 pre out RCA and fullface
trus untuk Clarion seri terbarunya ada 2 biji, DXZ-586USB dan DXZ-786USB. keduanya sudah bisa USB maupun IPOD. [perbedaanya 786USB sudaH ada time alignmentnmya....
Sorry bos mo tanya, ada info kapan CDA-9886-nya available ? Soalnya kan 9886 dah ada TA-nya kan jadi seimbang sama DXZ-786USB.

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CDA-9886 belum punya. gini aja...kasi alamat email kmu aja...ntar akalu ada info kami infokan...thx
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ekokw wrote:
poeticmind wrote:sayang... DXZ-786USB belum support wav...
bro poeticmind, kan DXZ-786USB dah support direct ipod usb connection, bisa ngga mainin ipod lossless compression yah ?

Btw HU -yang dah support wav apa aja sih bro ?
weww.... ada yah car audio branded yang sudah bisa WAV ? gw kok belum pernah tahu yeehhh....( ketinggalan jaman nihhh.... :( wekekkkkekekkkk)
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gw juga baru tau...:)

tp wav mah gak praktis.. soalnya gede banget ukuran file-nya...
mending juga codec yg sdh disebut td kaya FLAC... apalagi FLAC itu opensource.
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ekokw wrote:
poeticmind wrote:sayang... DXZ-786USB belum support wav...
bro poeticmind, kan DXZ-786USB dah support direct ipod usb connection, bisa ngga mainin ipod lossless compression yah ?

Btw HU -yang dah support wav apa aja sih bro ?
koreksi, maksudnya apple lossless compression. ya?
memang DXZ 786 bisa support ipod, tapi koreksi saya lagi... format ALC (apple lossless compression) sebenernya tetep ada di lossy compression.
contoh perbandingan uncompressed pada apple ipod format support:
Uncompressed - 70.0MB (based file, APE,FLAC, dll).
Lossless - 35.6MB
MP3 320 -17.0MB
AAC 320 -17.0MB
AAC 192 - 0.3MB
AAC 128 - 6.9MB
AAC 64 - 3.5MB
AAC 16 - 0.9MB

but, boleh menjadi referense pilihan, karena biar bagaimana pun kita bukan seorang audiophiles murni, kuping kita tidak dilatih utk bisa menangkap bit yg hilang...
utk rata2 umumnya, format lossless dan 320K compression tidak kentara bedanya di kuping kita...

car head unit rata2 sudah banyak yg support kok bro, misal pioneer, sony, JVC (saya ga apal semua...). dalam waktu dekat semua brand juga akan support.

oke singkat saja dulu lah, bahasan soal ini ntar pada thread baru saja ya... maaf buat bro audiomodif, threadnya jadi oot.

@hunter: justru format wav dan wma lossless yg common pada car head unit... kalo FLAC baru bisa dibaca oleh winamp, artinya memakai multimedia car-computer (jenis iTx).
makanya, saya mimpi punya head unit yg bisa baca FLAC, APE dll.
file wav dan FLAC sama, bro... sami2 gede... hehehehe
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^^ kemaren dah coba pke kompresi Lose less nya apple.... cuman ada beberapa detail lagu yg hilang di banding CD ori nya :mrgreen: , kemudian tes pke audio grabber output wav jauh lebih bagus hasilnya.... sayang file sizenya segede anak gajah :mrgreen:
tes kompres format apple Lose Less good morning album (d'cinnamon), All the way album (Celine Dion), The Greatest Basso Vol. 1 album (Zhao Peng)
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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poeticmind wrote:@hunter: justru format wav dan wma lossless yg common pada car head unit... kalo FLAC baru bisa dibaca oleh winamp, artinya memakai multimedia car-computer (jenis iTx).
makanya, saya mimpi punya head unit yg bisa baca FLAC, APE dll.
file wav dan FLAC sama, bro... sami2 gede... hehehehe
ooo.. maklum gw gak punya kayak gitu2an.. :)
make sense sih, krn wav itu format yg sdh lama banget... wma juga... didukung industri raksasa Microsoft.

kalo soal size sih emang gede2 semua itu... yg namanya lossless pasti gede size-nya...
tp wav secara umum masih lebih besar dibanding FLAC.
http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/lossles ... _2006.html
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poeticmind wrote:
ekokw wrote:
poeticmind wrote:sayang... DXZ-786USB belum support wav...
bro poeticmind, kan DXZ-786USB dah support direct ipod usb connection, bisa ngga mainin ipod lossless compression yah ?

Btw HU -yang dah support wav apa aja sih bro ?
koreksi, maksudnya apple lossless compression. ya?
memang DXZ 786 bisa support ipod, tapi koreksi saya lagi... format ALC (apple lossless compression) sebenernya tetep ada di lossy compression.
contoh perbandingan uncompressed pada apple ipod format support:
Uncompressed - 70.0MB (based file, APE,FLAC, dll).
Lossless - 35.6MB
MP3 320 -17.0MB
AAC 320 -17.0MB
AAC 192 - 0.3MB
AAC 128 - 6.9MB
AAC 64 - 3.5MB
AAC 16 - 0.9MB

but, boleh menjadi referense pilihan, karena biar bagaimana pun kita bukan seorang audiophiles murni, kuping kita tidak dilatih utk bisa menangkap bit yg hilang...
utk rata2 umumnya, format lossless dan 320K compression tidak kentara bedanya di kuping kita...

car head unit rata2 sudah banyak yg support kok bro, misal pioneer, sony, JVC (saya ga apal semua...). dalam waktu dekat semua brand juga akan support.

oke singkat saja dulu lah, bahasan soal ini ntar pada thread baru saja ya... maaf buat bro audiomodif, threadnya jadi oot.

@hunter: justru format wav dan wma lossless yg common pada car head unit... kalo FLAC baru bisa dibaca oleh winamp, artinya memakai multimedia car-computer (jenis iTx).
makanya, saya mimpi punya head unit yg bisa baca FLAC, APE dll.
file wav dan FLAC sama, bro... sami2 gede... hehehehe

wahhh....bisa d jelaskan lebih detail ngga sih apa maksudnya dengan apple lossless compression???
maklum....kami hanya menjual product sesuai dengan tulisan, dan mungkin untuk beberapa fotmat seperti WAV/MP3 kami menguasai. cuman untuk yang 1 ini ngga ngerti sama sekali wakakakak.....bisa d jelas kan 1 per 1 boss??
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apple lossless compression untuk lebih jelasnya bisa di http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lossless atau disini http://www.macworld.com/article/39226/2 ... odepl.html
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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jangan begitu om Gio... saya malah harus nya yg banyak belajar nih... secara om Gio kan bergerak di audio mobil. hehehe! tapi coba saya jawab ya... but, koreksi saya kalo ada yang salah... jadi input buat saya juga.

Apple Lossless Compression dikenal juga dengan Apple Lossless Encoder(ALE) atau Apple Lossless Audio Codec (ALAC).
nah, ini adalah audio codec yg dikembangkan oleh Apple, gunanya utk me -rip music data secara digital dengan keuntungan tidak mengurangi kualitas bitrate nya. meskipun masih belum sempurna seperti format wav atau FLAC.

format ALAC ini mempunyai format yg sama dengan AAC, tapi dengan file extention nya adalah .m4a. jadi meskipun satu source varian dengan AAC, hasil suara yg diberikan oleh format ini mirip dengan FLAC. keuntungan nya, suara yg dihasilkan bersih, jauh melebihi AAC sendiri maupun mp3.
jika dibandingkan dengan wav format, besar ALAC ini hanya 50-60% nya... jadi bisa mengirit disk space. ini sangat menguntungkan pada user yg memakai ipod, jadi pada head unit di mobil format ini dapat dimainkan melalui audio line in, ataupun aux in belakang, bahkan usb format jika head unit nya support langsung ipod. wew!

format ini diperkenalkan pertama kali tahun 2004, pada quicktime versi 6.5.1 , pada tahun berikutnya banyak open source yg membuat sofware utk mendukung audio codec format ini dan apple pun terus uptodating quicktime player nya, so disempurnakan terus sampai saat ini...

then, beken dengan nama : Apple Lossless Files.

note: windows pun mengembangkan WMA Lossless Files, duluan pada awal tahun 2003. ini adalah WMA format tertinggi utk ripping audio pada windows media player, support 6channel dan 24bit/96kHz audio quality.

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tonie wrote:apple lossless compression untuk lebih jelasnya bisa di http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lossless atau disini http://www.macworld.com/article/39226/2 ... odepl.html

ohhh....ternyata itu juag sejenis kompresi files audio toh....
tak kirain apaan...hehehehehehee......siiipp atas artikelnya
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thanks bro tonie... hehehe maap kalo penjelasan saya diatas ada yg salah... masa mau ngelawan wikipedia! :D
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poeticmind wrote:
satyr wrote:786USB brp duit tuh bos?
satiawgo lah... kisaran.
haiyaahhh kirain kelas 7950UB Pioneer. tadinya minat buat di twincam gw. soalnya skr pake 8650MP blom bisa USB. :?
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Wah-wah-wah ... makin mabok aja ngikutin topic ini.... gue pakai radio cuma untuk mendengarkan siaran jam 0500 BBC London..yang bahasa Indonesia.. kalau bahasa Inggris di SMART FM. Terus dilanjutkan ke ELShinta... Sore jam 1530 nonton Grace Nathalia di Berita Pasar TV-ONE...
Kalau macet... pasang DVD Rock Concert.....

Menyimpan lagu di SD card... rasanya sudah high tech... disini malah ngomongin kompresi file audio... gue beli beras, minyak tanah and gas dulu deh..... anak-2 udah harus makan nih.... heheheeeeee....
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€lj€p€ wrote:Wah-wah-wah ... makin mabok aja ngikutin topic ini.... gue pakai radio cuma untuk mendengarkan siaran jam 0500 BBC London..yang bahasa Indonesia.. kalau bahasa Inggris di SMART FM. Terus dilanjutkan ke ELShinta... Sore jam 1530 nonton Grace Nathalia di Berita Pasar TV-ONE...
Kalau macet... pasang DVD Rock Concert.....

Menyimpan lagu di SD card... rasanya sudah high tech... disini malah ngomongin kompresi file audio... gue beli beras, minyak tanah and gas dulu deh..... anak-2 udah harus makan nih.... heheheeeeee....
wakakakakaka! halaaaah om... masa high tech, ini hanya kualitas audio saja kok... ga lebih. :D

@satyr : lhaaa bro, harganya masih masuk lah... masih dibawah P80RS lho...! tapi suara boleh adu... hehehe! udah DTA bo... :D
usb kan banyak bro, cocok sama alpine ga? coba CDA-9884E yg direkomen om Gio, lumayan... or pio DEH-P6050UB, gue demen bentuknya nih! (mirip Eclipse).
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cuma buat twincam gw bos. mobil tua. asal ada USB aja tadinya sih

spk dan lain2 jg pas2an. cuma asbun
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weits! kalo asal2an bagasi ga berat dong... kenyataan nya 20kilo sih ada kan... :D
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twincam gw bagasi kosong bos..
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