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hahahahaha! nah, ngobrol HID lagi... gimana caranya kalo pake H4 ama H3 biar ga ribet? or ada baeknya HID utk lampu kota aja ya? H3 tetep pake standar...
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Sebenarnya gampang gak pasang HID? Gu a mau pasang tapi masih bingung kalo ntar pas gua mau ganti mobil gimana? Apa cuman tinggal colok2 aja?
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bro smua bisa bantuin ogud ga?
jujur gw ga ngerti loh maksud H3,H4 ato lain2nya...
blom ngerti... hehehe...
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oke, gue sebulan lebih ini bongkar2 lampu dan HID... kalo dijelasin bisa panjang banget...
kira2 apa yg mau elo tanya bro?

@tzalie : pemasangan sebenernya sama saja dengan kita pasang lampu replacement H4/H3/H1 dan lain2... hanya HID mempunyai ballast kotak ajaib saja... dan jika pindah mobil, tidak sulit kok, hanya melepaskan HID dan pasang kembali lampu asli serta konektor pabrikan tidak ada perubahan sama sekali...
hanya, utk beberapa kasus ada modifikasi sedikit di pemasangan HID karena kadang2 dudukan lampu tidak seperti lampu asli.

gue masih nyoba2 juga, so sama2 belajar lah ya...
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HID susah juga kemaren nyari yg 4300K, btw ada yg tau jual ngga?
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relisar wrote:HID susah juga kemaren nyari yg 4300K, btw ada yg tau jual ngga?
iya, agak susah... biasanya bisa dapet dari lepasan pabrikan standar mobil yg sudah HID. hehehe
tapi yg 6000K juga enak kok, bro... kuning nya masih ada... :)

or, coba tanya satyr... dia mafia lampu kan, kali bisa pesen. :D
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ada nih Xe Vision 4300 K. hehhee
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Huehue si bang satyr langsung nongol :D

Sebenarnya baru ganti yg 6K minggu lalu gara2x cari yg 45K habis. 6K udah maksimum batas toleransi lah, lebih dari itu udah ngga worth it kecuali buat penampilan doank ;)
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kl di bandung sih ke acc aja, dia punya banyak tuh lampu hid 4300k merk autovision. lumayan. gue jg pake sih, udah setaunan. si bob malah skg minimal 6/7000k adanya kl ga salah.
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bob maen sekitar itu... but gue lebih prefer 4300K. lebih aman buat cuaca kek gini...
ah, manggil satyr gampang... ketok enter 3x, nongol pasti! hehe...

@relisar : 6K oke, tapi 43K lebih nyaman, bro... beneran.

sementara gue lagi nyoba yg 8K, lepasan dari mobil lain di garasi... tapi buat foglamp... bah! serius cuman buat fashion saja, hehe! iseng aja sih, kiri dan kanan beda merek... :P >>> 8K? not recommended at all!
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cahnaga wrote:kl di bandung sih ke acc aja, dia punya banyak tuh lampu hid 4300k merk autovision. lumayan. gue jg pake sih, udah setaunan. si bob malah skg minimal 6/7000k adanya kl ga salah.
boleh diadu harga n kualitas barangnya ma gw deh

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poeticmind wrote:oke, gue sebulan lebih ini bongkar2 lampu dan HID... kalo dijelasin bisa panjang banget...
kira2 apa yg mau elo tanya bro?
ya itu maksudnya apa sih bro?
gw ga ngerti sama sekali..
bedanya apa?

trus kenapa musti beda2 gitu?
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maksudnya HID?
oke... singkat aja ya... HID (High Intensity Discharge) punya 3 macam jenis yaitu mercury vapor, metal halide and sodium.
bedanya sama halogen biasa : more light output, lebih putih dan lebih awet... dan HID membutuhkan sebuah ballast, yg berfungsi menyuplai daya yg sesuai dengan kebutuhan lampu HID itu (beda kelvin, beda besar supply nya...).
misal : 18watt HID sama dengan 55watt lampu halogen biasa, dan mempunyai 3-5kali lebih kuat dari halogen biasa.

gue pikir sih, ada baeknya elo coba bro... hehehe! beda lah ama halogen. yang jelas, dengan pemakaian HID yg pas... mata ga capek waktu mengendarai mobil malem2... terutama di tol. (tecommended 4300K-6000K). merek bisa dipilih2, macem2 euy...
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bukan bro.. yang gw bingung itu kode2 H nya,... ga ngerti...
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sori bro, gue juga ga ngerti maksud elo nanya yg bagian mana...
H itu menunjukan jenis lampu, housing dan dudukan nya...

misal... H3, H1, H7, H11 itu single beam... kalo H4 itu hi/low beam. dst.
misal.. gue pake baleno, headlamp memakai H4 (hi/low beam) dan foglampnya H3 (single beam).
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ya itu.. H-H nya itu.. maksud tuh kode apa...
bukannya smua lampu sama aja?
beda H1-H.. itu apa?
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H itu menunjukkan jenis/type lampu. dibedakan dari dudukan nya... kalo watt semua tersedia... selain dudukan, dibedakan dengan single dan hi/low beam...
misalnya H1/H3 ga bisa dipasang di H4.

seperti mobil bro contohnya, standar headlamp adalah H4 (hi/low beam) dan fog lamp nya H3. so, ga mungkin lampu bro dikasih H1 or tipe H7 or H11.
sinar lampu halogen yg keluar sama saja, selama watt nya sama. jadi, beda di dudukan, peruntukan nya di setiap mobil, beda pabrikan beda standar lampu yg digunakan...
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@atas: ente jadi jubir gw aja ya

*kabuuuuuuur
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hehehe dapet diskon 70% kali gue yeee? kek di metro gitu... sialan!
tapi ini baru tipe lampu H, belum D1S, D2S, D2R... cut-off bixenon, projector, retrofit custom, HID conversion kit...

walaaah...
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projector rata2 pake H11 atau D2S

kalo D2R itu buat HID OEM mobil2 lama yg masi reflektor

retrofit ada yg pake H7, H3, H1. dll (namanya jg custom)

D1 itu lama bgt dan kalo ga salah bukan 35 watt (generasi 1..jadi lebih gelap)

yg baru ada D4S tp masi ditunda gara2 dibilang bahaya (50 watt)

makanya ketauan kan kalo HID 50 n 70 watt itu sebenernya blom boleh nongol
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yup... utk projector lebih enak pake D2S.
D1S ada di mobil lama yg udah reflektor pabrikan dulu... memang kurang terang... itu generasi awal, hehehehe!

yang lagi pengen dicoba, retrofit... bro! cuman memang agak susah dapet lepasan projector-nya... nyari2 punya valeo kan mimpi abis... jadi yg di mobil lokal aja, kali aja ada trajet pecah lampunya or CRV keguling gitu... hehehe!
ntar kalo projektor dah dapet, tinggal minta diskon 75% buat HID nya... kalo ga salah Xe Vision ada harga khusus tuuuuuh...wakakakaka j/k.

D4S ga masalah sebenernya, tapi yg ditakutin adalah customer yg ga tau cara instalasi custom yg bener... terutama soal cut-off ketinggian nya.
disini pun pake replacement/conversion kit banyak yg ngaco... dikira gaya makin terang makin oke... tanpa cut-off or nurunin angle lampu... dan gue masih bertanya2, seberapa jauh kegunaan pasang eye lid...
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pusinkkk...
tapi yang H-H lumayan ngerti lah...
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sabar bro... rencana nya satyr mau posting all about HID dan jenis2 lampu, ntar... jadi kita tunggu aja. gue sih cuma jago teori aja... kalo satyr kan tiap hari pegang lampu...

ya kan tyr? :P
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bro..ada yg tau mana bisa kerjakan retrofit yang rapi dan bagus?
soale..betapa terang pun lampu HID kita..ga ada arti kalo pancarannya amburadul...dari pengalaman saya, memasang bohlam HID di batok halogen sih never gonna make it de...emg lebh terang..tapi pancarannya ga gt bagus..blm lagi kalo masalah beam dgn ukuran bohlam h4, masi lbh bagus halogen malah saya rasa..
dan memang di luar sana, org2 yg pake bohlam HID pada retrofit yah, blm tentu harus projector, yg penting reflektor nya memakai design buat HID. selain lbh terang dan rata pancarannya, dari segi safety jg meningkat..soalnya rata2 batok lampu buat HID tidak menyilaukan pemakai jalan yg laen...jadi tolong bantuannya abang2 sekalian..hehehe..thanks:)
oiya..1 lagi pertanyaan..apa beda bohlam d2s ama d2r?
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mungkin memang karena pd HID after market tertentu; jarak titik api pijar nya tidak sama dgn titik pd bohlam H4 (atau apapun halogen sebelumnya) walaupun hanya selisih bbrp mm...