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Re: Remap ECU tanpa pigyback

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b8099ok wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:52
ransyah1234 wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:37
b8099ok wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:26

Remap beneran itu permanent. Reside on rom chip. Dicabut ya tetep tidak hilang. Klo ada yg bilang cabut aki balik standar, suru sekolah lg deh,...
mungkin maksudnya kalau cabut aki, yang kereset itu hasil driving behaviour untuk ecu yang bisa baca itu...bukan remapnya (timing, throttle, etc)...bener ga ya?
Yoi brooo :big_okay:
ic bro. setelah baca trit ini ane baru tau kl remap ama piggy itu beda. dulunya ta pikir hampir sama aja. maklum nubie. he2x.

oh y bro satu pertanyaan lg. ada yg masih mengganjal. kl di remap cm 500rb dan hasilnya bagus knp orang susah2 beli piggy belasan juta? apa krn terpengaruh promo dari perusahaan2 piggy?
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mr_mytplx wrote:
b8099ok wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:52
ransyah1234 wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:37 mungkin maksudnya kalau cabut aki, yang kereset itu hasil driving behaviour untuk ecu yang bisa baca itu...bukan remapnya (timing, throttle, etc)...bener ga ya?
Yoi brooo :big_okay:
ic bro. setelah baca trit ini ane baru tau kl remap ama piggy itu beda. dulunya ta pikir hampir sama aja. maklum nubie. he2x.

oh y bro satu pertanyaan lg. ada yg masih mengganjal. kl di remap cm 500rb dan hasilnya bagus knp orang susah2 beli piggy belasan juta? apa krn terpengaruh promo dari perusahaan2 piggy?
Halo oom ...yakin biayanya 500 000 doang ?
Tolong cari tau nama bengkelnya dan no telpon, sy mau coba hubungi nanti, secara itu ancar2nya deket rumah sy.

Apa bener lestari motor ??

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Re: Remap ECU tanpa pigyback

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Sikat om, 500rb bargain of the century tuh,...
FWD + RWD + 4WD = :big_cat:
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b8099ok wrote:Sikat om, 500rb bargain of the century tuh,...
Palingan nol nya kececer sebiji[emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3]

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Re: Remap ECU tanpa pigyback

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Buat mobilio & veloz dual vvti apa bisa diremap ecu juga om?
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Yonx7 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 0:53 Buat mobilio & veloz dual vvti apa bisa diremap ecu juga om?
Mobilio bisa. Apanjah pilus NR engine can.
FWD + RWD + 4WD = :big_cat:
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Punten omm.. mau nanya,, kalo ford fiesta apa bisa efektif diremap juga? Pernah baca2 soalnya pakai piggyback semacam unichip gitu ga bisa permanen ubahannya krna ecu nya self learning sendiri jd bbrp saat bakal balik to default lg? mohon info om, tq
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ginting wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 23:35
mr_mytplx wrote:
b8099ok wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:52

Yoi brooo :big_okay:
ic bro. setelah baca trit ini ane baru tau kl remap ama piggy itu beda. dulunya ta pikir hampir sama aja. maklum nubie. he2x.

oh y bro satu pertanyaan lg. ada yg masih mengganjal. kl di remap cm 500rb dan hasilnya bagus knp orang susah2 beli piggy belasan juta? apa krn terpengaruh promo dari perusahaan2 piggy?
Halo oom ...yakin biayanya 500 000 doang ?
Tolong cari tau nama bengkelnya dan no telpon, sy mau coba hubungi nanti, secara itu ancar2nya deket rumah sy.

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b8099ok wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 0:21 Sikat om, 500rb bargain of the century tuh,...
kl soal 500rb saya hanya mengutip dari TS. makanya saya juga merasa mengganjal. 500rb vs jutaan kenapa pada pilih jutaan.
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efact wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:19 Punten omm.. mau nanya,, kalo ford fiesta apa bisa efektif diremap juga? Pernah baca2 soalnya pakai piggyback semacam unichip gitu ga bisa permanen ubahannya krna ecu nya self learning sendiri jd bbrp saat bakal balik to default lg? mohon info om, tq
Fiesta apa? 1.4/1.6/1.5/1.0t? Bbrp x remap ntu mobil aman² aja ampe skr. Ada sih yg pasang rescip, disuru balik tiap 6 bln. Mayan jg, moar cuan,...
FWD + RWD + 4WD = :big_cat:
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efact wrote:Punten omm.. mau nanya,, kalo ford fiesta apa bisa efektif diremap juga? Pernah baca2 soalnya pakai piggyback semacam unichip gitu ga bisa permanen ubahannya krna ecu nya self learning sendiri jd bbrp saat bakal balik to default lg? mohon info om, tq
Bawa ke bebong garage aja oom...
Ford mah dia lengkap protocolnya


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Re: Remap ECU tanpa pigyback

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b8099ok wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:40
efact wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:19 Punten omm.. mau nanya,, kalo ford fiesta apa bisa efektif diremap juga? Pernah baca2 soalnya pakai piggyback semacam unichip gitu ga bisa permanen ubahannya krna ecu nya self learning sendiri jd bbrp saat bakal balik to default lg? mohon info om, tq
Fiesta apa? 1.4/1.6/1.5/1.0t? Bbrp x remap ntu mobil aman² aja ampe skr. Ada sih yg pasang rescip, disuru balik tiap 6 bln. Mayan jg, moar cuan,...
1.4 om.. brrti bisa ya kalo lgsung ecu nya yg diremap..Utk peningkatanny sendiri sebesar ap sih om buat fiesta? terutama di 1.4 nya?
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ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:55
efact wrote:Punten omm.. mau nanya,, kalo ford fiesta apa bisa efektif diremap juga? Pernah baca2 soalnya pakai piggyback semacam unichip gitu ga bisa permanen ubahannya krna ecu nya self learning sendiri jd bbrp saat bakal balik to default lg? mohon info om, tq
Bawa ke bebong garage aja oom...
Ford mah dia lengkap protocolnya


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Ampe ada member sini yang ngiler mobilnya dianaktirikan ama bebong
ngacir ah.... :ngacir:
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Kalo bisa no. 2 ngapain jadi no. 1 "Capek jadi no. 1, selalu jadi Bench mark buat yang lain"
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Nainggolan21 wrote:
ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:55
efact wrote:Punten omm.. mau nanya,, kalo ford fiesta apa bisa efektif diremap juga? Pernah baca2 soalnya pakai piggyback semacam unichip gitu ga bisa permanen ubahannya krna ecu nya self learning sendiri jd bbrp saat bakal balik to default lg? mohon info om, tq
Bawa ke bebong garage aja oom...
Ford mah dia lengkap protocolnya


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Kecuali pord eskip....
Ampe ada member sini yang ngiler mobilnya dianaktirikan ama bebong
ngacir ah.... :ngacir:
Ford eskip sdh agak tuwak..trus N/A engine lama pula..jadi gak terlalu banyak yg bisa diharap dr kobel..

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ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:40
Nainggolan21 wrote:
ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:55
Bawa ke bebong garage aja oom...
Ford mah dia lengkap protocolnya


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Kecuali pord eskip....
Ampe ada member sini yang ngiler mobilnya dianaktirikan ama bebong
ngacir ah.... :ngacir:
Ford eskip sdh agak tuwak..trus N/A engine lama pula..jadi gak terlalu banyak yg bisa diharap dr kobel..

**ngacir kenttjang


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nah itu dia om.. fiesta sy 1.4 N/A dan engine lama juga :roll: .. tp penasaaran juga sigh seberapa besar peningkatan dari kobel :mrgreen:
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PM aja username B8099OK di atas,..

Minta diajak dan kenalin sama owner bebong garage, Summarecon Serpong.
Nanti kan bisa diskusi soal potensi kobel mesin itu..
Supaya sama2 enak,..jgn sampai over expectation.

Soal harga kan nanti oom bisa nego sama owner bebong langsung..



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ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:23 PM aja username B8099OK di atas,..

Minta diajak dan kenalin sama owner bebong garage, Summarecon Serpong.
Nanti kan bisa diskusi soal potensi kobel mesin itu..
Supaya sama2 enak,..jgn sampai over expectation.

Soal harga kan nanti oom bisa nego sama owner bebong langsung..



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siap... bebong itu di serpong toh.. kebetulan deket sama lokasi saya tiap weekend, tq oom ginting..
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efact wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:32
ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:23 PM aja username B8099OK di atas,..

Minta diajak dan kenalin sama owner bebong garage, Summarecon Serpong.
Nanti kan bisa diskusi soal potensi kobel mesin itu..
Supaya sama2 enak,..jgn sampai over expectation.

Soal harga kan nanti oom bisa nego sama owner bebong langsung..



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siap... bebong itu di serpong toh.. kebetulan deket sama lokasi saya tiap weekend, tq oom ginting..
Tapi hati2 om...
Ntar diracuni mesin Turbo dijel ama bebonk.....
"Bukan yang paling baik, tapi satu diantara yang terbaik"
Kalo bisa no. 2 ngapain jadi no. 1 "Capek jadi no. 1, selalu jadi Bench mark buat yang lain"
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efact wrote:
ginting wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:23 PM aja username B8099OK di atas,..

Minta diajak dan kenalin sama owner bebong garage, Summarecon Serpong.
Nanti kan bisa diskusi soal potensi kobel mesin itu..
Supaya sama2 enak,..jgn sampai over expectation.

Soal harga kan nanti oom bisa nego sama owner bebong langsung..



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siap... bebong itu di serpong toh.. kebetulan deket sama lokasi saya tiap weekend, tq oom ginting..
Iya, oom...
Gak jauh2 koq...coba aja..

Cuma owner bebong agak nyentrik, oom

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b8099ok wrote:
Yonx7 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 0:53 Buat mobilio & veloz dual vvti apa bisa diremap ecu juga om?
Mobilio bisa. Apanjah pilus NR engine can.
Kalo ertiga gimana om? Perubahannya signifikan ga? Terutama tarikan bawahnya

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ginting wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 15:42 Liat aja tulisan profile picture bebong garage " just because they can't write it, they cheat it"..

Nulis Ulang ECu itu susah..salah salah ECU modharrr...

Piggy back itu kan nipu input dan output ke dan dari mesin..
Tapi remap jg bukan segalanya, tanpa perbaikan mechanical, dan electrical..
Makanya yg tinggi Hp dan NM biasanya sdh bukan piggy murni,..sdh dibenahi juga piranti pendukung..

Naahh ini aku setuju ... Re-mapping tidak terlalu significant kalo kondisi mechanical masih standard.
Karena pabrikan telah setting ECU paling efisien sesuai kondisi standard mobil untuk daily-used dan mempertimbangkan realibilty mesin

Lain halnya mesin sudah porting & polish, slip head, bore-up, naikin stroke yang tentu merubah volume displacement & kompresi mesin.
Untuk itu perlu re-mapping, mengatur ulang mulai dari maju/mundur timing pengapian, buka/tutup derajat camshaft sesuai dengan kualitas oktan BBM.

Mungkin untuk stage 1 re-mapping bisa dilakukan untuk buka speed limiter
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ginting wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 15:42 Liat aja tulisan profile picture bebong garage " just because they can't write it, they cheat it"..

Nulis Ulang ECu itu susah..salah salah ECU modharrr...

Piggy back itu kan nipu input dan output ke dan dari mesin..
Tapi remap jg bukan segalanya, tanpa perbaikan mechanical, dan electrical..
Makanya yg tinggi Hp dan NM biasanya sdh bukan piggy murni,..sdh dibenahi juga piranti pendukung..

Naahh ini aku setuju ... Re-mapping tidak terlalu significant kalo kondisi mechanical masih standard.
Karena pabrikan telah setting ECU paling efisien sesuai kondisi standard mobil untuk daily-used dan mempertimbangkan realibilty mesin

Lain halnya mesin sudah porting & polish, slip head, bore-up, naikin stroke yang tentu merubah volume displacement & kompresi mesin.
Untuk itu perlu re-mapping, mengatur ulang mulai dari maju/mundur timing pengapian, buka/tutup derajat camshaft sesuai dengan kualitas oktan BBM.

Mungkin untuk stage 1 re-mapping bisa dilakukan untuk buka speed limiter.
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Bebong :big_think: baru dengar saya
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Or4cle wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:36
ginting wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 15:42 Liat aja tulisan profile picture bebong garage " just because they can't write it, they cheat it"..

Nulis Ulang ECu itu susah..salah salah ECU modharrr...

Piggy back itu kan nipu input dan output ke dan dari mesin..
Tapi remap jg bukan segalanya, tanpa perbaikan mechanical, dan electrical..
Makanya yg tinggi Hp dan NM biasanya sdh bukan piggy murni,..sdh dibenahi juga piranti pendukung..

Naahh ini aku setuju ... Re-mapping tidak terlalu significant kalo kondisi mechanical masih standard.
Karena pabrikan telah setting ECU paling efisien sesuai kondisi standard mobil untuk daily-used dan mempertimbangkan realibilty mesin

Lain halnya mesin sudah porting & polish, slip head, bore-up, naikin stroke yang tentu merubah volume displacement & kompresi mesin.
Untuk itu perlu re-mapping, mengatur ulang mulai dari maju/mundur timing pengapian, buka/tutup derajat camshaft sesuai dengan kualitas oktan BBM.

Mungkin untuk stage 1 re-mapping bisa dilakukan untuk buka speed limiter
Untuk mesin bensin N/A emang gak terlalu significan remap doank om...
Tapi Untuk mesin turbo dijel, saya aja gak percaya nih, hanya remap doank tanpa robah mekanikal part bisa naik ampe 60an dk
dan torsi bisa naik kisaran 100 an N.m..... Peningkatan yg lumayan untuk sekedar pakai harian menurut Nubie :big_smile]
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nugroho bagor wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:42 Bebong :big_think: baru dengar saya
Saya juga baru dengar.. tapi udah pernah ktemu sama owner nya.. emang nyentrik :mky_06:
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IMHO

Ada baiknya after remap lakukan dyno run dan monitor parameter :
- Boost
- AFR
- EGT

Jadi kita tahu bahwa hasil remap benar2 aman utk jangka panjang