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Re: Berbagi pengalaman dung seputar radiator

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kalo saran ane sih, mending ganti total atau minimal check seluruh sistem pendingin.
mulai radiator ( mgkin mampet ), thermostat, water pump, selang2.

oh ya, kmrn bengkel check nya gmn pas yang katanya gk usah ganti radiator? apakah cuman liat fisik to ampe di buka Upper & lower tank ( setau ane sih kalo Xenia gk bisa di buka Upper tank & Lower tanknya, karena dari plastik dan model Klem ya, CMIIW ).

kalo water pump gmn bengkel liatnya itu masih bagus to kgk??
wuzz...wuzz...wuzz nyaris tak terdengar.

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@Dohc:
oo..begitu..trims..infonya

@mario :
tentang kipas radiator : jadi bahan masukan. soale ane masih awam. dan sebelumnya percaya aja sama bengkel langganan.
rencana baru besok Sabtu ke bengkel (soalnya Jumat bengkelnya tutup).
Selama 4 hari terakhir saat reservoir sering habis, rasanya mesin normal saja, tidak tersendat2. (pincang = mbrebet = tersendat2..?).
Busi belum pernah buka sendiri..
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ane tadi ngobrol dengan montir bengkel.. katanya penyakit avxen, kipas mesin suka mati. harus rajin mantau tempratur mesin kalo emang bermasalah.

om mbuhyoben, air radiator masih berminyak? kalo iya, berarti ini sudah tercampur dengan oli. kemungkinan yang masalah di pipa pendingin di mesin...

sudah periksa thermostat? kalo thermostat rusak dan lagi dalam keadaan menutup, air radiator gak ngalir.
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@maskopat :
Kebetulan ane gak bisa nungguin di bengkel waktu pengerjaan, jadi ane berpikir positive aja, serahkan ama bengkel. Katanya thermostat, radiator, kipas, waterpump normal.

Ane kasih kepercayaan satu kali lagi, kalo memang masih rewel..berarti : dia agak bisa,.dan mesti pindah bengkel..
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kalau saran ane utk saat ini sehhh cuman satu utk TS.... coba sekali2 utk tungguin tuh mobil pas lagi di servis, cari waktu luang aja pas weekend.... kalo ditinggal2 sehh, bukanya apa, kayanya rada useless aja gt smua saran2 rekan2 dsini... toh jg ga tersampaikan ke si montir, dan TS sendiri jg ga tau letak problem masalahnya dmana, montir mahh pasti gampang aja ngomong... toh ga ada yg liat ini... bukanya apa, kalo ane sehh pribadi biar kata di bengkel langganan jg tetep ane tongkrongin... selaen kerjanya si montir terawasi, segala penyakit nya jg bisa ketauan...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:kalau saran ane utk saat ini sehhh cuman satu utk TS.... coba sekali2 utk tungguin tuh mobil pas lagi di servis, cari waktu luang aja pas weekend.... kalo ditinggal2 sehh, bukanya apa, kayanya rada useless aja gt smua saran2 rekan2 dsini... toh jg ga tersampaikan ke si montir, dan TS sendiri jg ga tau letak problem masalahnya dmana, montir mahh pasti gampang aja ngomong... toh ga ada yg liat ini... bukanya apa, kalo ane sehh pribadi biar kata di bengkel langganan jg tetep ane tongkrongin... selaen kerjanya si montir terawasi, segala penyakit nya jg bisa ketauan...
kalo ane sih mikirnya gini chiong... kadang ditungguin aja kerjaannya ga dijamin beres, apalagi kalo kaga ditungguin...... :frm_bang_head:
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betul siong... tapi biasanya sehh kalo ditungguin bisa kita kasi tau montir nya... dan kalo ad yg kelewatan bisa kita ingetin tuh montirnya.... itung2 jg belajar ttg mobil dikit2
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betul chiong... sekaligus belajar lebih mendalami ttg mobil kita sendiri.. :upss: :upss: :upss:
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btw gmana radiator mobil2 nt siong ?? dah ganti coolant lagi ?? ...
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belum chiong... barusan dicek setelah beberapa bulan ga dicek sih sehat2 aja di tutup radiator masih full coolantnya, trus di reservoir masih di sekitar level max

cuma skrg headlampnya yg ngaco sendiri... :big_slap:
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emang nt beberapa bulan ke mana siong.... headlamp nt jg knapa tuh...
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ga tau tuh dari dalem batok projectornya bunyi mencicit terus... kayaknya motornya ngaco tuh :frm_bang_head:

katanya udah di claim tapi sampe skrg blom ada kabar batok lampu barunya udah datang atau belum..... :off_bored:
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setuju bgt sama oom DOCH n oom hansen, sy jg tiap2 ke bengkel selalu nongkrongin saat mobil lg d kerjain...................ga melulu karena ga percaya sm montir, tapi jg karena rasa penasaran ane aja akan segala sesuatu yg d kerjain, liat-amati-tanya2/komunikasi sama montir.

jadinya selain ngerti sedikit teori, kta jg paham praktek2 nya kaya apa. :ungg: :ungg:
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Hansen wrote:ga tau tuh dari dalem batok projectornya bunyi mencicit terus... kayaknya motornya ngaco tuh :frm_bang_head:

katanya udah di claim tapi sampe skrg blom ada kabar batok lampu barunya udah datang atau belum..... :off_bored:
ada tikus nya ga tuhh???
ane jd keingetan cerita salah satu SMer, yg katanya d engine bay nya jd tempat ternak tikus :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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doq wrote:
Hansen wrote:ga tau tuh dari dalem batok projectornya bunyi mencicit terus... kayaknya motornya ngaco tuh :frm_bang_head:

katanya udah di claim tapi sampe skrg blom ada kabar batok lampu barunya udah datang atau belum..... :off_bored:
ada tikus nya ga tuhh???
ane jd keingetan cerita salah satu SMer, yg katanya d engine bay nya jd tempat ternak tikus :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
bukan dog, bunyi mencicitnya hanya ada kalo kunci kontak di ON atau mesin hidup... :ungg:

kalo lampu di ON berubah deh jadi tok tok tok....... :glodak:
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sengaja baru ngasih laporan hari ini, soale sambil nunggu stabil nggaknya ..
ok..mobil sdh ane ambil dari bengkel..sekitar 2 minggu yang lalu, katanya didobel pakcing cylinder head..Alhamdulillah sampai hari ini temperature sudah normal..moga seterusnya.. mantab

Air di reservoir juga nggak berkurang..tapi belum pake coolant..(masih pake air biasa, sementara rencana pake air RO saja)...msh trauma soalnya 2 kali ganti coolant dua kali juga bermasalah..
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paking silinder head d dobel??
turun kompresi dunk oom?
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apa hubungannya double packing cyl head dengan radiator berkurang ya?
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Kompresi mesin yg tinggi membuat suhu kerja mesin meningkat, maka dg menurunkan kompresi mesin diharapkan temperatur mesin bsa ikut d turunkan......
Bner g ya logika ane :ungg:
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doq wrote:Kompresi mesin yg tinggi membuat suhu kerja mesin meningkat, maka dg menurunkan kompresi mesin diharapkan temperatur mesin bsa ikut d turunkan......
Bner g ya logika ane :ungg:
berarti sebenernya masih ada masalah dong? karena harusnya kan kondisi packing gak dobel? kalo dobel jadi lebih panas dan air radiator menguap...?
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bukannya klo paking dobel itu=kompresi turun=panas mesin turun oom?? :ungg: :ungg:
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doq wrote:bukannya klo paking dobel itu=kompresi turun=panas mesin turun oom?? :ungg: :ungg:
bener om.. tapi kan kondisi standar mobil itu harusnya pakingnya satu..??
nah, harusnya si mesin sudah dirancang untuk suhu segitu. dan radiator harusnya gak berkurang volume airnya dengan kondisi volume air normal, siklus air radiator berjalan baik dan pendinginan dari fan memadai... ini pendapat ane yang bodoh ya...
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maskopat wrote:
doq wrote:bukannya klo paking dobel itu=kompresi turun=panas mesin turun oom?? :ungg: :ungg:
bener om.. tapi kan kondisi standar mobil itu harusnya pakingnya satu..??
nah, harusnya si mesin sudah dirancang untuk suhu segitu. dan radiator harusnya gak berkurang volume airnya dengan kondisi volume air normal, siklus air radiator berjalan baik dan pendinginan dari fan memadai... ini pendapat ane yang bodoh ya...
yup bener tuh, normalnya seh cukup satu paking.......
tapi ane khan lg meluruskan tulisan yg ini oom :big_weee: :big_weee:


maskopat wrote:kalo dobel jadi lebih panas dan air radiator menguap...?

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maksud pertanyaan ane itu mempertanyakan penguapan karena mesin panas.... emang benar karena mesin panas...
pertanyaan berikutnya, koq bisa panas dengan single packing? :e-think:
karena single packing itu kan standarnya?

ah, si kakak pembina lagi di tengah hutan pulak... :frm_bang_head:
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maskopat wrote:maksud pertanyaan ane itu mempertanyakan penguapan karena mesin panas.... emang benar karena mesin panas...
pertanyaan berikutnya, koq bisa panas dengan single packing? :e-think:
karena single packing itu kan standarnya?

ah, si kakak pembina lagi di tengah hutan pulak... :frm_bang_head:
mungkin udah ada yg ga bener.......tp masalahnya.... ane ga tau yg ga bener itu yg mana........ :upss: