Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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k4sus wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:04 DSG7 memang mantap, paddle shift di toel naik turun langsung bereaksi.

Kalau sudah pakai DSG7 lalu nyoba DSG6 akan terasa kalau DSG6 tidak akan secepat DSG7.

disamping itu, enaknya pake DSG kalau knalpot dibuat berisik dikit, setiap shifting bakal “Fart” yang akan membuat ketagihan :big_smile]

https://youtu.be/snBc_Eq8uZs
Kalau udah coba DSG6 di Jakarta, rasanya DSG7 nggak enak sama sekali. Very jerky.

Shifting time, gue rasa nggak beda sih. Malah kalau pake DSG6, gue lebih berani kalau remap mobil.
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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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VoxPopuli wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 17:38
dvdwyn wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 0:21 tiguan wet clutch gak perlu gonta ganti gigi kan yah di kemacetan atau tanjakan mall tinggi? rencana mau ambil tiguan.. pake auto hold aja nanti kalau macet..
Nggak kok.

Tapi bear in mind karena boost nya kecil, kalau mau nanjak harus turunin gigi biar ngacir. Kalau nggak ya gak ada tenaga nya, cuman 1.4 bok.

Tapi mau ambilnya Tiguan baru atau lama?

Seinget gue, Tiguan baru udah dry clutch.
bukannya tiguan baru yang sudah wet clutch? lebih ok dari dry clutch? atau kebalikan yah?
k4sus wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:04 DSG7 memang mantap, paddle shift di toel naik turun langsung bereaksi.

Kalau sudah pakai DSG7 lalu nyoba DSG6 akan terasa kalau DSG6 tidak akan secepat DSG7.

disamping itu, enaknya pake DSG kalau knalpot dibuat berisik dikit, setiap shifting bakal “Fart” yang akan membuat ketagihan :big_smile]

https://youtu.be/snBc_Eq8uZs
jadi tiguan baru ini pake dsg 7 yah?
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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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Tiguan masih pakai DSG6 speed .. Wet
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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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dvdwyn wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 0:43 bukannya tiguan baru yang sudah wet clutch? lebih ok dari dry clutch? atau kebalikan yah?
k4sus wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:04 DSG7 memang mantap, paddle shift di toel naik turun langsung bereaksi.

Kalau sudah pakai DSG7 lalu nyoba DSG6 akan terasa kalau DSG6 tidak akan secepat DSG7.

disamping itu, enaknya pake DSG kalau knalpot dibuat berisik dikit, setiap shifting bakal “Fart” yang akan membuat ketagihan :big_smile]

https://youtu.be/snBc_Eq8uZs
jadi tiguan baru ini pake dsg 7 yah?
Lebih bagus wet clutch, durability lebih terbukti, dan DSG untuk high-powered VAG cars semua pakai wet clutch. Dry clutch reserved untuk mesin power kecil.

Kalau Tiguan baru nggak tau deh dry apa wet clutch. VW sekarang tipe DSG nya nggak cuman DQ200 dan DQ250, ada yang baru-baru lagi.
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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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Afaik..
Existing dsg di line up vw msh pk 2type itu.
Dq200 n dq250.
Utk dq500 sendiri adl upgrade version dr dq250 klo ngga mw d blg similar dg konsep "bigger n better" ..d pake utk line up vw dimensi besar spt vw transporter atopun small performance line up spt audi TTRS.

Blm ada brita baru k depan utk improving development DSG d lingkup vag, krn mrk lbh tertarik cb method lain.

Tiguan utk north am market afaik pk 8spd Torque converter automatic.
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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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Topik menarik.

Numpang tanya om jivos:
Klo audi A4 (B8) pre-fl maupun fl type transmisinya ada apa aja ya ? Ada yg pake dsg wet 6 speed ga?
Apa cvt multitronic smua? Denger2 lebih serem lagi ngerawat yg multitronic drpd dct dry 7 speed di VW.


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Audi TTS (mk2) setau ane, dy pake wet clutch dsg 6-speed sama kaya di scirocco R. Istilah si Audi tuh S-Tronic transmision. Mesin jg sama2 EA113 pake turbo kluaran borg warner. Masuk wishlist unit yg ini sih..
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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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KielConstantine wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 17:56 Topik menarik.

Numpang tanya om jivos:
Klo audi A4 (B8) pre-fl maupun fl type transmisinya ada apa aja ya ? Ada yg pake dsg wet 6 speed ga?
Apa cvt multitronic smua? Denger2 lebih serem lagi ngerawat yg multitronic drpd dct dry 7 speed di VW.



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Audi TTS (mk2) setau ane, dy pake wet clutch dsg 6-speed sama kaya di scirocco R. Istilah si Audi tuh S-Tronic transmision. Mesin jg sama2 EA113 pake turbo kluaran borg warner. Masuk wishlist unit yg ini sih..
*A4/B8 1.8T pk multitronic cvt transmisssion.
Klo ada yg quatrro br pk S tronic (dsg tran), cmiiw.

*cvt multitronic lbh minim perawatan/faulty error comp to dq200, cuma klo itu cvt tranny dah mulai wear....kudu ganti segeluntung gb ngga bs parsial spt di dsg...clutch pack sj/mecha sj.....yg mn hrg geluntung cvt tranny nya seharga a4 B8 nya

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Re: Dual Clutch Transmission on Indo's traffic

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Pantesan harga sekenan A4 (B8) lebih jatoh lagi drpd bmw (E90) lebih horror toh.....

Thx for info mate.
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