Pajak mobil hybrid turun?

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Re: Pajak mobil hybrid turun?

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yang bikin peraturan males mikir
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di pengisian untuk pendaftaran kendaraan

Isi silinder/daya listrik, jadi berdasarkan daya listrik nya..
Saya juga bingung, karena dihitung dari satuan daya, sepertinya itu para pembuat undang2 studi kasusnya cuma buat jalan2 gka ada penerapan sama sekali..

Pemerintah jaman now
-Pengerak 4 roda itu termasuk fitur safety tapi jadi barang mewah..
-Hybrid jadi barang mewah karena 2 mesin, padahal katanya mendukung efisiensi
-Mobil listrik masuk kendaraan mewah dengan penghitungan pajak berdasarkan daya yang disimulasikan displacement jadi mahal juga tapi katanya mendukung kendaraan rendah emisi..

Dua point paling belakang banyak yang bilang untuk melindungi industri kendaraan listrik dalam negeri tapi juga gak jalan kan industrinya? Artinya cuma akal2an saja~
Beberapa negara bahkan membebaskan pajak Hybrid dan PlugIn Hybrid, diesel dapat potongan pajak..
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Cuma berharap mobil ini masuk Indonesia... klo aturan ini dah resmi...

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mpvlover wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:33 Loh ini kan sama aja pajaknya dengan mobil biasa, padahal negara lain kan ngasih insentif supaya hybrid lbh murah. Ga usah jauh jauh di Malaysia aja BMW Mercy hybrid lbh murah drpd mesin biasanya

Terus konyol aja peraturan utk motor listrik tp patokannya tetep aja cc mesin brp cc

Tesla mana ada brp cc wong udah ga pake mesin ice

Peraturan utk mobil listrik patokannya pake cc mesin bensin diesel, kacauuu
Jadi inget dulu ada Tesla Model S di NJKB ditulis 6.000cc bensin :big_slap:
Jangan nginjek gas dalam dalam, boros, mending nyantai aja :ngacir:
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Re: Pajak mobil hybrid turun?

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Tats wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 15:02
iwing wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:30
Rundeer wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:15
Recharging by braking/deceleration... Indonesia lebih cocok pake tipe hybrid begini dibanding ngecas ke pln, apalagi ngeremnya lebih banyak daripada ngebutnya :glodak:
kalo nissan note kabarnya bukan mengandalkan deselerasi/pengereman untuk charging baterai nya tapi tetep pakai mesin bensin biasa cuma mesin itu hanya akan nyala untuk charging jika baterai sudah tinggal sedikit. jadi roda mobil tetep digerakkan oleh motor listrik. cmiiw
Nissan Note e-power selain dicharge dari combustion engine, udah ada regenerative brake system yang membantu mengisi baterainya juga om iwing
Tapi memang sumber energi utamanya dari ICE nya
Berikut penjelasan nissan yang saya kutip mengenai regenerative brakenya

"The regenerative brakes work effortlessly as they help charge the batteries during deceleration and the brake pedal has a progressive firmness with good rigidity. Another special feature of the e-Power is its ability to be driven with one pedal. In “normal” or “D” modes, the e-Power’s regenerative brakes operate almost identically to the brake feel of a standard gasoline car."

Ternyata canggih juga mobil ini walau regenerative brake bukan teknologi baru di pasar otomotif di indo
Semoga harganya terjangkau supaya laku
habis lihat review autonetmagz, iya emang bener om ternyata dapat suplai juga dari pengereman. btw review nya kok mantep tenan yak :mky_01:
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mpvlover wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:33 Loh ini kan sama aja pajaknya dengan mobil biasa, padahal negara lain kan ngasih insentif supaya hybrid lbh murah. Ga usah jauh jauh di Malaysia aja BMW Mercy hybrid lbh murah drpd mesin biasanya

Terus konyol aja peraturan utk motor listrik tp patokannya tetep aja cc mesin brp cc

Tesla mana ada brp cc wong udah ga pake mesin ice

Peraturan utk mobil listrik patokannya pake cc mesin bensin diesel, kacauuu
karena kalau ga salah klasifikasinya masih pake jaman entah kapan: motor bakar...

ya emang diseluruh dunia namanya mobil hybrid/electric dikasi insentif. indonesia mah tar aja, tunggu itu lobi2 dari produsen kelar dulu :mky_08:
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disini (iceland, norway) malah EVs harga onroad lbh murah vs harga off pdhl kita bayar annual insurance
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Rundeer wrote: Jadi inget dulu ada Tesla Model S di NJKB ditulis 6.000cc bensin :big_slap:
Hitung nya gimana ya itu? Ajaib banget bisa keluar angka 6000 cc...
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newrubble wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:28 production cost locally / regionally dedicated lineups (kijang, avanza, apalagi tuh dua lain) makin tinggi

hrs region to region complementation tdk bs lg assembly-n-vendors in one point

ada rencana spread out mrk ke vietnam, india, s.africa
another bad news u/ industri manufaktur Indo ya oom? kl dikomplemen gitu, artinya ke depan bakal byk vendor lokal yg kehilangan orderan/kerjaan/sub dong.. tren harga mobil & nasib merek2 di Indo, ke depan jdnya gmn oom? pdhl sdh disiapkan byk jalan tol-nya..
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liemivan86 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:08
Rundeer wrote: Jadi inget dulu ada Tesla Model S di NJKB ditulis 6.000cc bensin :big_slap:
Hitung nya gimana ya itu? Ajaib banget bisa keluar angka 6000 cc...
sama spt ez-go mobil golf yg bbrp sy punya dulu (sejak 1999 n bbrp x ganti) ..... di itung 50cc (krn sy perlu plaat u jalan dr rumah ke pdk indah mall)
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denmas8 wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:08


another bad news u/ industri manufaktur Indo ya oom? kl dikomplemen gitu, artinya ke depan bakal byk vendor lokal yg kehilangan orderan/kerjaan/sub dong.. tren harga mobil & nasib merek2 di Indo, ke depan jdnya gmn oom? pdhl sdh disiapkan byk jalan tol-nya..
kan sebagian besar astra vendorship itu kan prusahaan prusahaan under astra shareholdingship ...... mrk kan punya parent itu jpn-ese investment ..... biar sj ..... kuli kuli nya bs jadi apapun online