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Etoll Card bikin macet 2 kali lipat.

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Kenapa ya jasa marga bukannya bikin kebijakan yg bisa tambah lancar. malah bikin kebijakan yang bikin tambah macet.
Jangan bilang ini masih masa adaptasi, Udah 1 bulan penerapan etoll card, macet masih bertambah 2 x lipat.
sebagai contoh Pintu masuk tol kemayoran sekarang macetnya mulai dari belokan ke prj. Dulunya paling sekitar apt bandar kemayoran.
Tol bandara jam pulang kerja, sering banget macetnya dari km 22, mau hari apa aja. Dulu kalo hari rabu-jumat paling macetnay mulai dari km 27, senin selasa malahan lancar banget sampe gerbang tol, skr mau senin kek tetep aja macetnya bisa dari km 22.
Begitu juga pagi hari arah ke tol bandara , ane dari arah kebalikannya lihat arah tol bandara jam 6-an pagi aja macetnya udah panjang banget.

Jadi kesimpulannya etoll gak bikin lebih cepat dari tunai,walaupun uang tunai ada kembalian ,kayaknya lebih cepet uang tunai deh. kalo mau non tunai ya jangan pake sistem etoll lah.
Beberapa pengamatan :
1. Banyak driver yang suka nungguin struk keluar, Kalau tunai struk udah siap begitu mau bayar, langsung bayar lansung kasih struk.
2. Banyak juga driver yang nempelin kartunya gak terlalu kena, akibatnay jadi diangkat tempel lagi angkat tempel lagi. padahal mah tempel aja agak kena dikit, dan jangan diangkat2..ntar juga kebaca.
3. Driver yang gak bawa etoll card, ini mungkin mashi bisa terjadi di minggu2 pertama kebijakan etoll. tapi ini udah 1 bulan gak mungkin dong masih ada yg gak bawa etoll card, tapi macetnya tetep jalan terus.
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Macetnya tambah ke gerbang masuk, bukan cuma di gerbang keluar itu pengamatan nubie sbg pemakai tol setiap hari.
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Kadang ada mesin yg ngebaca kartunya lama bgt
Bikin macet :off_bored:
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Kayanya gerak tangan pengemudi masih kalah cepet sm petugas tol.. pas di GT agak susah juga sih harus keluar tangan & ngepasin kartu ke mesin scan..

Kalo berhenti kejauhan, saya bisa keluar setengah badan buat ngejangkau scanner nya.. alhasil bisa 10 detik sendiri nempelin kartu doang.. effortnya lebih besar, apalagi buat saya yg belum terbiasa..
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setuju, ntah kenapa pake etoll malah bikin tambah ngantri.
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etoll bikin lebih lancar sebenernya cuma kamuflase aja sih. menurut saya emang biar pendapat negara dari bunga bank lebih banyak aja. secara pembangunan infrastruktur dimana mana. dan tau sendiri sri mulyani pinter nyari celah potensi pendapatan buat negara
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jelas, bikin tambah lama ngantrinya...
ditambah lagi system buat top up banyakan offline-nya dibanding operasinya....TKP gerbang toll Bintaro
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padahal dsini gak serame jakarta,, tapi ngantri masuk GT bisa sampe 10-15 menit sebelum pake etoll paling cuma ngantri 2-3 mobil aja
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dimassn25 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:15 etoll bikin lebih lancar sebenernya cuma kamuflase aja sih. menurut saya emang biar pendapat negara dari bunga bank lebih banyak aja. secara pembangunan infrastruktur dimana mana. dan tau sendiri sri mulyani pinter nyari celah potensi pendapatan buat negara
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Menurut gue lebih baik kaya dulu aja sih, tunai ada, E-Toll juga ada. Dulu kan sblm ada kebijakan ini E-Toll masih sepi tuh, jadi buat yg mau cepet ya silahkan melalui gardu yg ada GTO nya, kalo yg mau tunai ya tunai.

Gue lebih seneng tunai soalnya ga perlu2 isi saldo dulu, kadang kartu nya terselip di dlm mobil, trs ribet ngepas2innya ke mesin scan takut mentok kena bumper / velg secara gw bawa sedan, kalo kejauhan jd ribet juga nempelinnya. Lebih enak tunai kalo buat gw tinggal ngeluarin duit aja dan bablas.

Lebih enak dulu sih, tunai ada, E-Toll juga ada :big_think:
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kebijakan utk memasukkan modal dulu supaya perusahaan tdk perlu modal awal, bisa di tabung di bank dan ada bunga yg lumayun...
nanti jg akan ada kebijakan menggunakan system jarak jauh dgn speed mobil rendah tagihan masuk rekening...
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Udahhh gratisin aja gerbang2 yg berpotensi bikin macet hahah
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Jambangan wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:59 Kadang ada mesin yg ngebaca kartunya lama bgt
Bikin macet :off_bored:
Ini!! Saya pernah abis isi e-toll 100rb, pas masuk GTO di tap2 gabisa, udah malu saya di klakson mobil2 belakang, petugas lama datengnya. Pas dateng akhirnya bilang mesinnya rusak :frm_bang_head: :mad:
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Iya bener mesinnya banyak yah jadul dan prosesornya mgkn udah pada out of date, blm lagi sistem print struk yg lg meluncur gitu, bikin polusi aja, pdhl ngk semua butuh struk, ada 2 gerbang yt plg baru sy liat di keluaran out ram ke 3 tol jkt merak yg arah ke bandara, plg sisi kiri itu mesinnya baru, tap nya cepet dan ada pencetan tombol untuk struknya, jadi yg perlu struk tinggal pencet, yg ngk perlu tinggal jln dan ngk ada polusi sia2.
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Emg butuh adaptasi jg supirnya.

Kejauhan ntar tangannya gk nyampe, terlalu dkt spion kanan nabrak mesin reader
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Gue sih gak heran.
Lha wong cuma ngantri ambil kartu tol aje lama bener.
Pernah gue iseng ngamatin pas ngantri masuk pintu tol ciawi. Rata2x butuh waktu 5-6 detik, bahkan ada yg ampe 8 detik.
Gue sendiri cukup butuh 3 detik aja.
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Bbrp kali liat kartu yg lepas jatuh dr genggaman ini (sebelum/sesudah nempelin).....

Mau buka pintu ketahan ramp loket yg tinggi...
K paksa keluar dr pintu kiri...sembari nyengir" k yg antri :mky_03:
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Kalo di Makassar sekitar 3 minggu pertama bikin macet banget emang. soalnya banyak pengemudi yang gak punya e-toll card masuk jalur khusus e-toll, jadi persis di depan gerbang tol mereka dialihkan sama petugas ke jalur uang kas. Tapi skarang di Makassar udah normal kembali sih, setidaknya untuk yg jalur e-toll. YAng jalur uang kas emang jadi jauh tambah panjang antriannya
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Pernah jumpai GTO yg justru sedang offline/tidak berfungsi.

Pas bayar ke petugasnya, ngomongnya GTO yg offline karena petugasnya istirahat.
Padahal seblum full GTO,, tu 2 gate g pernah offline.

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Yg kemayoran emang kacau bgt antri nya sejak pake e-toll, skrg ane sampe pindah naiknya dr ancol..
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etoll itu membaca gol kendaraan dr apa ya?
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Harusnya sarana pendukungnya udh bener2 siap buat ngejalanin program ginian, biar ga nambah ribet supir. Klo bs ya sekalian bikin kartu etollnya ga perlu tapping biar kedetect ama mesin, kek di luar negeri
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iwidiyanto wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:49 etoll itu membaca gol kendaraan dr apa ya?
eh bener juga ya.. baru kepikiran hahaha
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jivos wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:27 Bbrp kali liat kartu yg lepas jatuh dr genggaman ini (sebelum/sesudah nempelin).....

Mau buka pintu ketahan ramp loket yg tinggi...
K paksa keluar dr pintu kiri...sembari nyengir" k yg antri :mky_03:
jadi inget pas di tol bawen-semarang,bawa xv30...adik ane yg nyupir,ngga sampe tangannya buat nempelin kartu,sampe buka sabuk pengaman...buka pintu ramp nya tinggi...akhirnya yg duduk di belakang yg nempelin kartu :big_slap:
sejak itu kalau lewat sana pas dia yg nyupir,yg duduk di belakang siap2 pegang etoll nya
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kenop wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:56
iwidiyanto wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:49 etoll itu membaca gol kendaraan dr apa ya?
eh bener juga ya.. baru kepikiran hahaha
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