Car safety in Indonesia, is it adequate?

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Car safety in Indonesia, is it adequate?

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Dapet inspirasi pas baca berita 5 mobil dari negara uttaran ditest ama global ncap dan gagal dengan spektakuler plus dulu kasus datsun go yang bikin heboh, tapi di Indo biasa aja.... Emang sih berberpa mobil Indo ada yang di crash test, hasil nya bagus, tapi apakah ASEAN ncap itu setara ato dibawah standar global ncap?

So menurut master master disini, apakah kondisi car safety di Indonesia udah lebih baik ato lebih parah?
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Ini ranahnya om NR yang bicara, beliau punya datanya klo soal crash test beginian.


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tergantung standar mana yang jadi acuan
kalau standar domestic indo umumnya di bawah standar internasional
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Sangat2 miris liat pabrikan otomotif di indonesia dan minimnya peraturan pemerintah buat naikin standard, kesannya nyawa org kurang dihargain disini.. Smua spek keselamatan di downgrade, digantiin ama chrome2an dan bodykit.. Konyol abis, tp kayanya masyarakat jg masi kurang peduli..
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Bicara car safety dgn contoh datgo memang bikin merinding, di crash test hasil nol malah ketua ncap menyarankan pabrik menarik unit ini dr market krn hasil test yg fenomenal tsb, ehh bergelindingan di jalanan sini.

Betapa beruntungnya kita2 disini boleh memiliki mobil tsb, tentu dgn resiko tanggung sendiri.

Tp yaa peduli dgn ncap yg pasti user senang dgn harga murah punya this wheeled coffin unit laris manis pabrik batu makam punya profit toh selama ini dipasarkan ga ada korban jiwa -- moga2 jangan ada sih, so go to hell ncap.

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coba kalau pembelinya kritis, pasti jg ga beli kalau masih hargain hidup
Atau juga biasa naik motor lalu peningkatan ekonomi trus beralih ke mobil, jd pandangan mereka tentang keselamatan di samakan dengan motor...
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What's considered "adequate"?
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Utk lcgc, sudah lebih dr cukup standar keamanannya. Dalam artian :
1. Aman dr air hujan
2. Aman dr lecet akibat jatoh dr motor
3. Aman dr hinaan kere krn garasi kosong

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Sebelum ngomong car safety, mending bikin jalan yg "layak" dulu deh
Ikutan trend penghuni garasi:

-antek medket liar entah milik siapa
-ayam milik tetangga depan rumah yg kadang nyasar
-tikus yg siap diracun :evil:
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mobil aman sana sini, tapi driver mabok anak pejabat tinggi mana nyundul sembarang, akhirnya mokad juga. artinya? traffic indonesia harus dibenerin dulu baru ribut ncap berapa2. kalau traffic uda bener, yang beli mobil juga otomatis kepikiran beli yg decent. lah tiap kali ada toll baru jadi makan nyawa dibilang yang salah jalannya ga ada fasilitas keamana ini itu, ga ada yang bahas drivernya salah nyetir serampangan atau maksain diri.
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kunaskun wrote:mobil aman sana sini, tapi driver mabok anak pejabat tinggi mana nyundul sembarang, akhirnya mokad juga. artinya? traffic indonesia harus dibenerin dulu baru ribut ncap berapa2. kalau traffic uda bener, yang beli mobil juga otomatis kepikiran beli yg decent. lah tiap kali ada toll baru jadi makan nyawa dibilang yang salah jalannya ga ada fasilitas keamana ini itu, ga ada yang bahas drivernya salah nyetir serampangan atau maksain diri.
setuju sama bos. faktor safety no.1 itu driver. kalo aku jadi presiden, aku bikin kepres soal kewajiban tes ulang SIM saat perpanjangan, mengingat kualitas pemegang SIM yg ada sekarqng dipertanyakan. sosialisasi tata cara sopan santun di jalan, sebarkan bookletnya, buat websitrnya dan promosikan di iklan layanan masyarakat, dan dites di ujian SIM.

percuma juga kalo mobil punya airbag, tapi seatbelt ga dipake, termasuk penumpang belakang
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asean ncap = global.ncap = UK ncap = malay + spore (n tay) ncaps

(global ncap is an entity incorporated under laws of UK . servicing public with public liability warranty (warranty number 0 751 39 000) without gaining commercial profit (charity registration number 11 41 798)

products: ancap (ostrali+nz). asean ncap (malay sporr tay) cncap (zhonghua). euro ncap (19 countries). kncap (korea) jncap.(japan)

indo kalo ada zero star crashtested car? pasangin single airbag .... kasih leatherette level mbtech (palsu mbtex tapi populair di indo) ... kasih japaness branded headunit ....aluminum velgen .

dan mrk akan aman dilindungi fans (enthusiasts level abdi dalem / budak)
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aman dari apa....wong pajak aja dimahalin. beln sunat sini-sana
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Sebelum bikin car safety mending perbaiki infrastuktur jalanan dan transportasi sini deh baru bisa omongin car safety.
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kunaskun wrote:mobil aman sana sini, tapi driver mabok anak pejabat tinggi mana nyundul sembarang, akhirnya mokad juga. artinya? traffic indonesia harus dibenerin dulu baru ribut ncap berapa2. kalau traffic uda bener, yang beli mobil juga otomatis kepikiran beli yg decent. lah tiap kali ada toll baru jadi makan nyawa dibilang yang salah jalannya ga ada fasilitas keamana ini itu, ga ada yang bahas drivernya salah nyetir serampangan atau maksain diri.
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Ini ngomongin safety sebuah mbl apa keselamatan berkendara secara keseluruhan si? Diluar infrastruktur, perilaku berkendara, dll saya rasa car safety di indo si sangat ga adekuat. ATPM lebih milih ngasi krom 1 ton dibanding kasi airbag lebihan, lebih milih kasi velg racing drpd stability control. Bahkan ada mbl yg di facelift malah ABS sgala diilangin diganti grill nyengir sama audio visual HU yg (sok) keren...

Safety feature is overrated di indo...
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Err.. mobil-mobil jadul masih banyak seliweran di jalan, safety-nya ya nggak update. :mky_03:
Belum lagi truk, kontainer, bus dkk..
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Pink wrote:Sangat2 miris liat pabrikan otomotif di indonesia dan minimnya peraturan pemerintah buat naikin standard, kesannya nyawa org kurang dihargain disini.. Smua spek keselamatan di downgrade, digantiin ama chrome2an dan bodykit.. Konyol abis, tp kayanya masyarakat jg masi kurang peduli..
belajar dari tukang becak gan , Murah minta selamat .... :wkkk:

udah mobilnya kaleng rombeng masih minta selamat ya gak mungkinlah bonus lagi belinya dicicil gak tahu bisa lunas apa gak :big_biglaugh:

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Berarti menurut agan agan, masalah nya itu ada di driver sendiri dan in some case Infrastructure....
Tapi bener juga sih, disini orang beli mobil yang safety minded masih dikit banget... Mungkin karena itulah ATPM males Bikin yang safe banget

sampe mobil 500jt pun gak pake traction control, padahal Mobil setengah harga udh ada
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kalo dari sisi pabrikan disini, mungkin lho ya, ginama mau bikin mobil yang safety nya bagus. lha bikin mobil yang sunatan masal aja udh dipalak sekian persen. ntar dibikin yang safety nya bagus, palak nya tambah gila lagi dan ujung-ujung nya malah gak laku

atau malah jangan2 pabrikan ambil margin nya kegedean kali ya
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KodokPushUp wrote:Sebelum ngomong car safety, mending bikin jalan yg "layak" dulu deh
logika yang sama bahwa,

harus bisa nunjukin bahwa kita punya tempat untuk parkirin mobil yang kita beli,
otherwise, kita gabisa beli mobil, walaupun punya uang ..

kata teman saya yang kuliah di Jepang, sistem beli mobil baru seperti itu ..
lalu dia katakan kalau sewa parkir di Tokyo sekitar 10 juta / bulan :mky_03:

lalu saya sadar, orang Indo yang tinggal di perumahan, punya mobil 3 tapi garasinya hanya muat 1-2 mobil,
mobil yang terakhir, harus di taruh di depan rumahnya, atau paling parah ini :

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bahas car safety di indo sih repot ya.. faktor2nya banyak.. antara lain:

- ignorant customer base.. mobil 0 star di crash test aja laris, banyak fanboys nya lagi :D
- bad infrastructure. contoh: jalan tol surabaya - porong.. kalo malem.. gelap banget lighting cuma di beberapa spot doang.. bahaya gak tuh? jalan tol pandaan - porong.. jalannya keriting :D :D
- government that simply doesn't care.
- bad drivers

ATPM mah cuma ngikuti regulasi pemerintah & market demand aja.. mereka pikir ngapain kasih safety feature banyak2, toh mayoritas juga kagak ngerti fitur2nya buat apaan.. mungkin bagi mereka yang penting mobilnya di rem berhenti udah cukup :D :D
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Sudah banyak contohnya mobil kaleng vs eropa punya, apalagi suv eropa - hasilnya kaya maen bowling yg di dalem mobil kaleng kelempar ke mana2.

Bukan berarti sy anti mobil kaleng, sesekali naik mobil kaleng juga, tapi sy selalu ingatkan sopir spy hati2. Mobil bisa dibeli bisa kredit, nyawa gak bisa.
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g4ndalf wrote:Sudah banyak contohnya mobil kaleng vs eropa punya, apalagi suv eropa - hasilnya kaya maen bowling yg di dalem mobil kaleng kelempar ke mana2.

Bukan berarti sy anti mobil kaleng, sesekali naik mobil kaleng juga, tapi sy selalu ingatkan sopir spy hati2. Mobil bisa dibeli bisa kredit, nyawa gak bisa.
Kadang orang nyetir ato naik motor sudah hati-hati, eh jadi korban driver lain yang sruntulan ato mabok.
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silentIm2 wrote:
g4ndalf wrote:Sudah banyak contohnya mobil kaleng vs eropa punya, apalagi suv eropa - hasilnya kaya maen bowling yg di dalem mobil kaleng kelempar ke mana2.

Bukan berarti sy anti mobil kaleng, sesekali naik mobil kaleng juga, tapi sy selalu ingatkan sopir spy hati2. Mobil bisa dibeli bisa kredit, nyawa gak bisa.
Kadang orang nyetir ato naik motor sudah hati-hati, eh jadi korban driver lain yang sruntulan ato mabok.
Betul... makanya hrs selalu hati2. Terutama weekend / larut malam / subuh dekat daerah hiburan (malam) sering org mabuk nyetir. Hrsnya kalo mabuk nyetir trus crash, dikenai aja pasal percobaan pembunuhan krn mengancam nyawa org lain.