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Hansen wrote:Ngomong2 corona stain nih, kemarin pas ane ganti busi si 1TR yg udah jalan di atas 20rb km dengan kondisi lumayan babak belur mengingat ini hanya busi std biasa. Nah pas dibuka tuh busi lama, hanya ada 1 busi yg ada corona stainnya (tepatnya di silinder no.3), sisanya ga ada corona stain meski kondisi udah sama2 mengenaskan, kira2 kenapa yah apa ada yg salah dengan silinder no.3 ane?
Kalau busi udh lama dipakai dan temannya ber-corona stain, yg ngga ada stain-nya justru ada kemungkinan sdh kurang bagus nilai tahanannya jadi aliran listriknya tidak mampu membuat corona stain. Gitu kira2 meneer, meski tentunya ada kemungkinan penyebab lainnya juga
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote:Ngomong2 corona stain nih, kemarin pas ane ganti busi si 1TR yg udah jalan di atas 20rb km dengan kondisi lumayan babak belur mengingat ini hanya busi std biasa. Nah pas dibuka tuh busi lama, hanya ada 1 busi yg ada corona stainnya (tepatnya di silinder no.3), sisanya ga ada corona stain meski kondisi udah sama2 mengenaskan, kira2 kenapa yah apa ada yg salah dengan silinder no.3 ane?
Kalau busi udh lama dipakai dan temannya ber-corona stain, yg ngga ada stain-nya justru ada kemungkinan sdh kurang bagus nilai tahanannya jadi aliran listriknya tidak mampu membuat corona stain. Gitu kira2 meneer, meski tentunya ada kemungkinan penyebab lainnya juga
I see... :e-think: thx untuk pencerahannya meneer :thanks:
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imsus2c wrote:
herp wrote:Om mau tanya, apa busi denso yg pas buat gantiin busi ngk, tipenya NGK LKR6C, makasih om.
Busi untuk apa ya?

Kalau dari katalog cross refernce nya Denso, yg heat range-nya 6, kode depannya LFR

http://www.globaldenso.com/en/products/ ... 37_11.html
Buat dai ayla om, makasih om :thanks:
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Mau tanya dong, busi yang bagus untuk gantiin busi mobilio cvt apa ya? ngeliat codenya dmn ya agar penggantiannya mengikuti spek bawaan... thanks for advice...
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Arteezy wrote:Mau tanya dong, busi yang bagus untuk gantiin busi mobilio cvt apa ya? ngeliat codenya dmn ya agar penggantiannya mengikuti spek bawaan... thanks for advice...
Liat di manual book aja coba om, semoga membantu
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Arteezy wrote:Mau tanya dong, busi yang bagus untuk gantiin busi mobilio cvt apa ya? ngeliat codenya dmn ya agar penggantiannya mengikuti spek bawaan... thanks for advice...
Honda biasanya pakai/oem NGK
http://www.ngkbusi.com/index.php/pfsp/4w
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Arteezy wrote:Mau tanya dong, busi yang bagus untuk gantiin busi mobilio cvt apa ya? ngeliat codenya dmn ya agar penggantiannya mengikuti spek bawaan... thanks for advice...
Sudah berapa KM mau diganti busi ?
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Profith83 wrote:
Arteezy wrote:Mau tanya dong, busi yang bagus untuk gantiin busi mobilio cvt apa ya? ngeliat codenya dmn ya agar penggantiannya mengikuti spek bawaan... thanks for advice...
Sudah berapa KM mau diganti busi ?
busi iridium di enjin L15 emg kayanya kurang awet om.... ge8 ane aj tiap 40-50 rebu pasti musti ganti tuh busi...

bahkan HR enjin nya batu makam aj masi lebi friendly ama busi iridium... bsa d hajar ampe 70an rebu

2 2 nya sama2 peminum setia premium thok...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Tanya busi irridium

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maaf baru iseng baca baca post ada yang belum kejawab :big_slap: :big_slap: :big_slap:
imsus2c wrote:
imingwahyudi wrote:Saya malah kepikiran busi hi performance non iridium (twin tips, octa tips, u name it) daripada iridium :big_think:

kejadian kerabat saya, miara GD3 VTEC 2007, isi iridium, koil standar, eeh kenapa berebet berebet. Balikin lagi ke busi biasa, normal lagi :big_think:

Diagnosa sementara mekanik bengkel, jangan pake iridium di mobil dengan umur lumayan tua, koilnya terkadang ga kuat ngangkat :big_think:
Apa ada kemungkinan salah tipe/heat range?

Saya pakai iridium di santi tua, thn 2001 odo 230.000++km ngga masalah kok. Koil standard, dan sdh berumur juga...
Malah socket kabelnya sdh pada getas dan akhirnya cuma di solder ulang+sealant
umm...entah untuk tipe nya apa oom...mereknya kalo gak salah bosch (?) (mobilnya sudah ditendang :big_biglaugh: )dan anehnya terakhir saya pakai before dan after ganti busi standar lagi hampir gak ada beda.... *mungkin* ada sedikit peak power tambahan..tapi *mungkin* kesamarkan sama shift point CVTnya :big_think:
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utk mesin yg sama, L15 d GE8 malah make iridium lohh bawaan nya... jadi musti nya sehh bsa2 aj... mungkin blom d setting ulang oleh bengkel nya...

mengenai mobil tua... itu pemakai lipina yg uda taonan pd pake busi iridium bawaan gapapa... lebi ke faktor settingan sehh kayanya om...
L15 GE8 aslinya iridium?? :big_think: :big_think: :big_think:


dulu sebelum brebet sih memang ownernya minta settingan paling "kenceng" ke si bengkelnya...semenjak brebet itu dibalikin ke "normal"...entahlah apakah memang ada mapping presets seperti itu atau placebo nya si bengkel...tapi memang di mode "normal" tersebut...brebetnya gak begitu ketara..






oh iya om om...sekalian tanya juga... Apanjah untuk next oil change nya bakal dibarengi ganti busi...ada rekomendasi yang bagus dan (syukur syukur) murah? Apakah worth untuk invest di busi iridium? Penggunaan untuk skg sekitar 500 km sebulan (max)...60% hwy cruising..thanks in advance :big_peace:
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imingwahyudi wrote:maaf baru iseng baca baca post ada yang belum kejawab :big_slap: :big_slap: :big_slap:
imsus2c wrote:
imingwahyudi wrote:Saya malah kepikiran busi hi performance non iridium (twin tips, octa tips, u name it) daripada iridium :big_think:

kejadian kerabat saya, miara GD3 VTEC 2007, isi iridium, koil standar, eeh kenapa berebet berebet. Balikin lagi ke busi biasa, normal lagi :big_think:

Diagnosa sementara mekanik bengkel, jangan pake iridium di mobil dengan umur lumayan tua, koilnya terkadang ga kuat ngangkat :big_think:
Apa ada kemungkinan salah tipe/heat range?

Saya pakai iridium di santi tua, thn 2001 odo 230.000++km ngga masalah kok. Koil standard, dan sdh berumur juga...
Malah socket kabelnya sdh pada getas dan akhirnya cuma di solder ulang+sealant
umm...entah untuk tipe nya apa oom...mereknya kalo gak salah bosch (?) (mobilnya sudah ditendang :big_biglaugh: )dan anehnya terakhir saya pakai before dan after ganti busi standar lagi hampir gak ada beda.... *mungkin* ada sedikit peak power tambahan..tapi *mungkin* kesamarkan sama shift point CVTnya :big_think:
Butt-o-meter saya rasakan juga ngga ada perbedaan antara busi iridium vs. busi biasa/cooper.
Enaknya kalau busi iridium, dia relatif low maintenance dan konsisten. Terutama gap-nya :D
Kerasa sekali manfaatnya buat mobil yg ritual bongkar-pasang busi-nya ribet
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Re: Tanya busi irridium

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imsus2c wrote:
imingwahyudi wrote:maaf baru iseng baca baca post ada yang belum kejawab :big_slap: :big_slap: :big_slap:
imsus2c wrote:
Apa ada kemungkinan salah tipe/heat range?

Saya pakai iridium di santi tua, thn 2001 odo 230.000++km ngga masalah kok. Koil standard, dan sdh berumur juga...
Malah socket kabelnya sdh pada getas dan akhirnya cuma di solder ulang+sealant
umm...entah untuk tipe nya apa oom...mereknya kalo gak salah bosch (?) (mobilnya sudah ditendang :big_biglaugh: )dan anehnya terakhir saya pakai before dan after ganti busi standar lagi hampir gak ada beda.... *mungkin* ada sedikit peak power tambahan..tapi *mungkin* kesamarkan sama shift point CVTnya :big_think:
Butt-o-meter saya rasakan juga ngga ada perbedaan antara busi iridium vs. busi biasa/cooper.
Enaknya kalau busi iridium, dia relatif low maintenance dan konsisten. Terutama gap-nya :D
Kerasa sekali manfaatnya buat mobil yg ritual bongkar-pasang busi-nya ribet
I see om :big_grin:

jadi lebih sarankan iridium untuk prolonged usage ya om?

oh iya om sekalian tanya...memang bakal ada perbedaan yang terasa di FC antara busi standar pabrikan dengan single tip/twin tips sampe berapa biji tips?

beberapa review di forum komunitas kendaraan sepertinya sangat efektif dengan merubah busi standar ke tipe twin/more tips :big_think:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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ane pemakai twin tip lohh ming...

diracunin ama si han(siong)sen tuh...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:ane pemakai twin tip lohh ming...

diracunin ama si han(siong)sen tuh...
ane juga pemakai twintip.. :ngacir:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Hansen wrote:
DOHC wrote:ane pemakai twin tip lohh ming...

diracunin ama si han(siong)sen tuh...
ane juga pemakai twintip.. :ngacir:


Menarik :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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imingwahyudi wrote:
Hansen wrote:
DOHC wrote:ane pemakai twin tip lohh ming...

diracunin ama si han(siong)sen tuh...
ane juga pemakai twintip.. :ngacir:


Menarik :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
mendorong :upss: :upss: :upss:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Hansen wrote:
imingwahyudi wrote:
Hansen wrote: ane juga pemakai twintip.. :ngacir:


Menarik :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
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meniup :big_comfort: :big_comfort: :big_comfort:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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drpd niup2, kocok2, narik2...

mending cepet beralih ke twintip ming...


atau kl perlu quad tip kl ad...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:drpd niup2, kocok2, narik2...

mending cepet beralih ke twintip ming...


atau kl perlu quad tip kl ad...

biar meniup kocokan di livina nya makin narik ya om klep? :upss:
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Re: [ask] Gap busi mobil?

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yab wrote:guys semua, mau nanya donk gap busi mobil rata rata berapa ya??
kebetulan pake Honda Jazz, kemaren abis beli busi + beli feeler gauge. :wink:

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y_anjasrana wrote:Ini khusus mobil aja atau motor juga termasuk ya?

sama neh ini, bingung dan gak pernah tau tentang busi
gagal paham :big_bored:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Jadi intinya kalo mobil mulai brebet saat mau di gas pol akselerasinya... Itu kan ganti dulu busi nya ya. Kalo buat mercedes baiknya pakai apa ya? Sedan biasa. Not performance car.. Apakah yg gold / cooper / silver lebih baik drpd iron / iridium?? Dan beli nya dimana ya? Mau sekalian pasang pas tune up.. Kalo di beres pasti kan mereka adanya cuma busi standart
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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@Skymotor,
nggak usah repot/bingung milih, pake busi sesuai anjuran manual book. mau merk lain juga nggak dilarang, asalkan nilai panasnya sama.
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Om,usia pakai busi twin tip brp ribu km ya? Br mau coba pasang nh bsk,skalian setvis rutin.. slama ini pake busi std aja soalnya.. hehe
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Om", kalo ganti busi biasa ke iridium apa menguntungkan? ane ada rencana buat ganti busi ertiga ane ke iridium (tarikannya lemot) biar tarikannya lebih enak (busi bawaan NGK biasa yang so so). Mohon pencerahannya
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erwinign wrote:Om", kalo ganti busi biasa ke iridium apa menguntungkan? ane ada rencana buat ganti busi ertiga ane ke iridium (tarikannya lemot) biar tarikannya lebih enak (busi bawaan NGK biasa yang so so). Mohon pencerahannya
saya pake ertiga, kondisi masih standar semua, akselerasi enak kok nggak lemot.
daripada ganti2 busi mending isi bensin sesuai dgn permintaan mesin.