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imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote:^

Kalo utk yg pwr steering sistem hidrolik ada benarnya, tapi kalo utk yg sistem EPS (elektrik) itu masih berlaku tidak ya? :e-think:
benarnya dimana ya meneer...
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Semoga ada yg berkenan nerangin nih di trit nyerempet teknikal..gimana cara kerja sistem PS hidrolik.

Apakah benar pas semakin belok tu tekanan di kompresor dan pipa-selang2nya tu semakin meningkat jg? Seberapa drastis meningkatnya. Apakah itu artinya pas belok mentok tu tekanan hipressure nya guedee banget? dan msh seberapakah margin dayatahan yg bs dihandle oleh press2an di selangnya itu ya?
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Hansen wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote:^

Kalo utk yg pwr steering sistem hidrolik ada benarnya, tapi kalo utk yg sistem EPS (elektrik) itu masih berlaku tidak ya? :e-think:
benarnya dimana ya meneer...
*ciyus neh...,secara kadang sering mentok juga
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imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
benarnya dimana ya meneer...
*ciyus neh...,secara kadang sering mentok juga
Miapah?
:off_sleep:
:wkkk:

Ampun meneer, sebenernya nubie sendiri juga kurang paham...:ungg:... :ngacir:
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Hansen wrote: :wkkk:

Ampun meneer, sebenernya nubie sendiri juga kurang paham...:ungg:... :ngacir:
artinya TS musti tanggung jawab nih...

jangan hanya nulis "semoga..." :big_weee:
andy1800 wrote:Semoga ada yg berkenan nerangin nih di trit nyerempet teknikal..gimana cara kerja sistem PS hidrolik.

Apakah benar pas semakin belok tu tekanan di kompresor dan pipa-selang2nya tu semakin meningkat jg? Seberapa drastis meningkatnya. Apakah itu artinya pas belok mentok tu tekanan hipressure nya guedee banget? dan msh seberapakah margin dayatahan yg bs dihandle oleh press2an di selangnya itu ya?
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imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote: :wkkk:

Ampun meneer, sebenernya nubie sendiri juga kurang paham...:ungg:... :ngacir:
artinya TS musti tanggung jawab nih...

jangan hanya nulis "semoga..." :big_weee:
andy1800 wrote:Semoga ada yg berkenan nerangin nih di trit nyerempet teknikal..gimana cara kerja sistem PS hidrolik.

Apakah benar pas semakin belok tu tekanan di kompresor dan pipa-selang2nya tu semakin meningkat jg? Seberapa drastis meningkatnya. Apakah itu artinya pas belok mentok tu tekanan hipressure nya guedee banget? dan msh seberapakah margin dayatahan yg bs dihandle oleh press2an di selangnya itu ya?
betul meneer, justru oknum yg nulis2 "semoga..." itulah yg tau jawabannya :e-whistle:
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Waduh ada 2 momod n ex momod,gw kabur ajalah,gak berani OOT nih
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Hansen wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote: :wkkk:

Ampun meneer, sebenernya nubie sendiri juga kurang paham...:ungg:... :ngacir:
artinya TS musti tanggung jawab nih...

jangan hanya nulis "semoga..." :big_weee:
andy1800 wrote:Semoga ada yg berkenan nerangin nih di trit nyerempet teknikal..gimana cara kerja sistem PS hidrolik.

Apakah benar pas semakin belok tu tekanan di kompresor dan pipa-selang2nya tu semakin meningkat jg? Seberapa drastis meningkatnya. Apakah itu artinya pas belok mentok tu tekanan hipressure nya guedee banget? dan msh seberapakah margin dayatahan yg bs dihandle oleh press2an di selangnya itu ya?
betul meneer, justru oknum yg nulis2 "semoga..." itulah yg tau jawabannya :e-whistle:
kebetulan belum nongol... kita tunggu nanti apalagi excuse-nya :mky_03:
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no excuse....
this could be considered as a declaration of war ! ......bot op yu...kam hiyer.... you want war?... you, got, it

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finally the turtle in the boat has shown up :big_weee:

no war plizz, pis only... :e-pray:
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y_anjasrana wrote:Sambil nunggu ahli ac dtg, ane pernah denger bbrp mitos ttg ac mobil :
1. ac ga boleh dinyala/matikan pd saat mobil berjalan, terutama pd rpm tinggi. ktnya bisa merusak kompresor.
2. pengatur suhu ac sebaiknya tidak sering diputar2, bisa cepat rusak.

hal2 diatas cuma mitos atau knyataan ya?
1.kompresor AC dirancang oleh pabrikan supaya magnetic clutchnya mampu beroperasi tanpa masalah di kondisi berapapun rpm mesinnya, hal itu karena sistem AC bekerja untuk mengaktifkan kompresor secara otomatis berdasarkan kondisi temperatur di kabin, bukan berdasarkan rpm mesin.

2. tentu saja kenop apapun kalo sering diutak atik akan cepet aus/patah, tapi kenop/saklar kalo terlalu dibiarkan/gak digerak2an sama sekali dalm waktu yang lama juga gak bagus krn berpotensi macet akibat beberapa partnya selalu posisi statis dan lama2 berkerak. Di sistem AC yang paling umum kejadian kenop macet adalah untuk selector air inlet (udara dalem/udara luar), di kota2 besar krn polusi udaranya parah, bisa dbilang mayoritas mobil2 yang ada dikota besar itu kenop selectornya selalu dipanteng di posisi udara dalem dan hampir gak pernah digeser2 lagi...lama2 kenop selectornya bisa macet tuh,hehehe...

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toonafish wrote:Newbie mau tanya, katanya kalo nyetir dibiasakan jangan sering muter setir sampai njedog (misal kalau mau puter balik). Karena bisa merusak sistem power steering. Bener ga tuh suhu-suhu sekalian? :e-doh:
kalo sistem power steeringnya bagus gak ada masalah, maka itu masih berupa mitos

tapi kalo relief valve di pompa PS nya udah mulai mampet2, maka itu bisa jadi fakta....sebab dalam posisi mentok semestinya relief valve terbuka lebar dan minyak PS mengalir balik dengan lancar....tapi kalo dah mampet2 akan terjadi tekanan berlebihan di sistem, akibatnya bisa saja selang2nya jadi rentan pecah/bocor...atau fatalnya pompa PS jebol.

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Newbie numpang nanya lagi, temen bilang kalo mobil transmisi matic pas mau manasin mobil harus masukin ke posisi N biar oli mesin sirkulasi juga. Betul ga tuh suhu2 sekalian?
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toonafish wrote:Newbie numpang nanya lagi, temen bilang kalo mobil transmisi matic pas mau manasin mobil harus masukin ke posisi N biar oli mesin sirkulasi juga. Betul ga tuh suhu2 sekalian?
pompa oli mesin itu ikut putaran mesin, ga peduli transmisinya di posisi mana ntuh pompa oli juga tetep muter

demikian juga ama pompa oli matic, itu ikut puteran mesin, jadi di posisi transmisi mana aja ntuh oli matic juga sirkulasi. jadi manasinnya mau di N ato di P ga masalah...

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Oo jadi kesimpulannya manasin mobil matic ga perlu di posisi N ya bos? Thanks :-D
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omong2 katanya klo suka membiarkan tangki bensin sampai tinggal seperempatnya, baru diisi...
jd berpeluang besar bikin rusak pompa bensin. bahkan utk mobil2 yg bandel pun spt innova, avanza


benar begitu kah?
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andy1800 wrote:omong2 katanya klo suka membiarkan tangki bensin sampai tinggal seperempatnya, baru diisi...
jd berpeluang besar bikin rusak pompa bensin. bahkan utk mobil2 yg bandel pun spt innova, avanza


benar begitu kah?
pernah baca itu gara2 kotoran2 di tangki bensin banyak yg keangkat pas bensin tinggal seperempat om
makanya menyumbat pompa bensin
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wahh ane sering bgitu tuhhh... bagusnya ngisi waktu sisa brp sih?
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y_anjasrana wrote:wahh ane sering bgitu tuhhh... bagusnya ngisi waktu sisa brp sih?
kalo ane sih biasa pas jarum dibawah setengah dikit om baru ngisi lagi
tapi ga nyampe seperempat :mky_01:
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orang dulu biasanya sebelum matiin mesin pasti injak gas dulu kalo rpm udah turun baru dimatiin,, buata apa coba
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daftar wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:42 orang dulu biasanya sebelum matiin mesin pasti injak gas dulu kalo rpm udah turun baru dimatiin,, buata apa coba
buat ditanya.
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daftar wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:42 orang dulu biasanya sebelum matiin mesin pasti injak gas dulu kalo rpm udah turun baru dimatiin,, buata apa coba
buat ngisi setrum ke baterai, tertama yg baterai sudah mau soak, dan/pengisian dinamo gak bagus...mayan seuprit nambahnya...
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Mitos:
Katanya kalo ac bau apek, berarti ada jamur, cara ngatasinnya heater di setel sampe maksimum sampe keluar udara panas tunggu 15 menit terus jamur jamur penyebab bau hilang.
Betul apa enggak?
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Mitos.

Kalau isi fuel, mobil diguncang2 biar muat lebih banyak di tanki kita.

Fakta

Fuel adalah cairan yg tak bisa dikompresi.
fuel itu bukan kedelai dalam karung yg bisa disodok2 pk gagang sapu supaya padat.

tanki bbm gak ada tembolok rahasia. jadi kalo isi fuel gak usah digoncang2.
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Dimasdepe wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:37 Mitos:
Katanya kalo ac bau apek, berarti ada jamur, cara ngatasinnya heater di setel sampe maksimum sampe keluar udara panas tunggu 15 menit terus jamur jamur penyebab bau hilang.
Betul apa enggak?
Iya kalo ada heater-nya. Kalo gak ada??
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