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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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josomba wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 22:46
Nah yg nomor 3 ini mbah. Ada 2 baut n ditulisnya 144-159Nm :upss:

Screenshot_20210515-054114_Drive.jpg
wogh mobil resing nih murnya minta kenceng bgt. :upss:

just info nih mbah, sebelumnya ane sbg nubie mengira kl ketemu baut mur begitu selalu ngencengin dr si mur. setelah punya fsm nya vrz, ternyata makin runyam. ada tulisannya:
*jangan mengencangkan baut (berarti yg dikencengin murnya, baut yg ditahan)
atau
*jangan mengencangkan mur (berarti yg dikencengin bautnya, mur yg ditahan)

asem ga tuh? :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

coba mbah perhatiken gambar utk GK ini, kira2 bautnya apa murnya yg dikencengin? bandingin sm gambar M2 mbah di atas. :mky_03:


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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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blloewy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:42
Taufiq6210 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:08
blloewy wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 23:32 Mbah Rektor DOHC nanya dung...
Buka baut tap oli gearbox lipindut pake kunci apaan ya?
8 mm square head begitu....kirain pake kunci L 8 mm.bisa ternyata dia kotak :ungg:
Nyari di online shop kagak nemu juga pake kunci apa itu. :big_think:
Bukan mbah DOHC tapi numpang jawab, beli aja di shopee mbah... cari aja "kunci persegi" dan di-filter berdasar pengiriman luar negeri. Pernah beli juga dan diukur bener 8 mm kok
Owh keywordnya kunci persegi ya.?
Baeklah om...coba dulu cari... :big_exellent:
Udah dapet om?

https://shopee.co.id/product/28541548 ... 1046233.9

Harganya naik jadi 37rb, pas saya beli kemarin masih 30rb :mky_01:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:46
josomba wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 22:46
Nah yg nomor 3 ini mbah. Ada 2 baut n ditulisnya 144-159Nm :upss:

Screenshot_20210515-054114_Drive.jpg
wogh mobil resing nih murnya minta kenceng bgt. :upss:

just info nih mbah, sebelumnya ane sbg nubie mengira kl ketemu baut mur begitu selalu ngencengin dr si mur. setelah punya fsm nya vrz, ternyata makin runyam. ada tulisannya:
*jangan mengencangkan baut (berarti yg dikencengin murnya, baut yg ditahan)
atau
*jangan mengencangkan mur (berarti yg dikencengin bautnya, mur yg ditahan)

asem ga tuh? :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

coba mbah perhatiken gambar utk GK ini, kira2 bautnya apa murnya yg dikencengin? bandingin sm gambar M2 mbah di atas. :mky_03:


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Eh... Owe maksudnya ngencengin persis yg d service manualnya, berarti si mur ya. Suka kebalik2 nyebut mur n baut :big_biglaugh:

LOL jadi ngencengin "baut n mur" juga kudu liat footnote (jika ada) ya. Si bautnya atau si murnya

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:46
josomba wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 22:46
Nah yg nomor 3 ini mbah. Ada 2 baut n ditulisnya 144-159Nm :upss:

Screenshot_20210515-054114_Drive.jpg
wogh mobil resing nih murnya minta kenceng bgt. :upss:

just info nih mbah, sebelumnya ane sbg nubie mengira kl ketemu baut mur begitu selalu ngencengin dr si mur. setelah punya fsm nya vrz, ternyata makin runyam. ada tulisannya:
*jangan mengencangkan baut (berarti yg dikencengin murnya, baut yg ditahan)
atau
*jangan mengencangkan mur (berarti yg dikencengin bautnya, mur yg ditahan)

asem ga tuh? :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

coba mbah perhatiken gambar utk GK ini, kira2 bautnya apa murnya yg dikencengin? bandingin sm gambar M2 mbah di atas. :mky_03:


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Menurut pemahaman saya yg nubie ini Mbah Shifu Plop.
Lbh baik kencangkan murnya.
Krn kl baut sepertinya torsinya lbh riil langsung ngiket ke baut nya.
Eh bentar dulu? Ini mur maksudnya yg bulet kecil di ujung khan? Bukan yg panjang ada thread atau ulirnya?
Saya suka ketuker antara mur ama baut. :big_slap:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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Spies wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:39
blloewy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:42
Taufiq6210 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:08

Bukan mbah DOHC tapi numpang jawab, beli aja di shopee mbah... cari aja "kunci persegi" dan di-filter berdasar pengiriman luar negeri. Pernah beli juga dan diukur bener 8 mm kok
Owh keywordnya kunci persegi ya.?
Baeklah om...coba dulu cari... :big_exellent:
Udah dapet om?

https://shopee.co.id/product/28541548 ... 1046233.9

Harganya naik jadi 37rb, pas saya beli kemarin masih 30rb :mky_01:
Makasih Om...langsung masuk keranjang dulu ini... :big_exellent:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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josomba wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 22:46

Nah yg nomor 3 ini mbah. Ada 2 baut n ditulisnya 144-159Nm :upss:
Om, itu nomor 3 baut Link Stabil bukam ya?
Kencenga banget ya sampai 159 Nm...
Kayanya di catetan Mbah Warektor Garasi 58 ngga sampe begitu dech... :big_think:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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josomba wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:56
Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:46
josomba wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 22:46
Nah yg nomor 3 ini mbah. Ada 2 baut n ditulisnya 144-159Nm :upss:

Screenshot_20210515-054114_Drive.jpg
wogh mobil resing nih murnya minta kenceng bgt. :upss:

just info nih mbah, sebelumnya ane sbg nubie mengira kl ketemu baut mur begitu selalu ngencengin dr si mur. setelah punya fsm nya vrz, ternyata makin runyam. ada tulisannya:
*jangan mengencangkan baut (berarti yg dikencengin murnya, baut yg ditahan)
atau
*jangan mengencangkan mur (berarti yg dikencengin bautnya, mur yg ditahan)

asem ga tuh? :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

coba mbah perhatiken gambar utk GK ini, kira2 bautnya apa murnya yg dikencengin? bandingin sm gambar M2 mbah di atas. :mky_03:


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Eh... Owe maksudnya ngencengin persis yg d service manualnya, berarti si mur ya. Suka kebalik2 nyebut mur n baut :big_biglaugh:

LOL jadi ngencengin "baut n mur" juga kudu liat footnote (jika ada) ya. Si bautnya atau si murnya

:big_biglaugh:
:crazyeyes: :e-shhh:

jangan sampai grup aliran anti siksa diri mendengarnya.

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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blloewy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:03
josomba wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 22:46

Nah yg nomor 3 ini mbah. Ada 2 baut n ditulisnya 144-159Nm :upss:
Om, itu nomor 3 baut Link Stabil bukam ya?
Kencenga banget ya sampai 159 Nm...
Kayanya di catetan Mbah Warektor Garasi 58 ngga sampe begitu dech... :big_think:
beda mobil beda spec. itu kan bedanya njesa vs masdut2 om. lipindut bisa beda lg.

baut n mur mana yg dikencangkan ternyata ga selalu murnya :mky_03:
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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:26
:crazyeyes: :e-shhh:

jangan sampai grup aliran anti siksa diri mendengarnya.

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Oke deh kembali ke kunci pas + pipa besi 90cm kalau gitu mbah, biar ga siksa diri

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blloewy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:03
Om, itu nomor 3 baut Link Stabil bukam ya?
Kencenga banget ya sampai 159 Nm...
Kayanya di catetan Mbah Warektor Garasi 58 ngga sampe begitu dech... :big_think:
Bukan um, itu 2 baut ngiket shock ke knuckle. Cmiiw mbah2 lainnya. Kalau buat link stabil, ane lupa berapa, kudu buka section stabilizer link :big_peace:

Update: ternyata tinggal swipe halaman selanjutnya.
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Segitu lah torquenya mbah. Abaikan dynamic damper ya, di indo ga dipakein ntuh alat :big_slap:
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Kunci filter oli yg model cakar adjustable itu bagus ga ya?

Atau mending beli yg model sabuk?

Kadang pengen bantuin sodara atau temen ganti oli tapi ga punya kunci filter.

Cuma punya kunci filter Toyota yang non adjustable.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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blloewy wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 23:32 Mbah Rektor DOHC nanya dung...
Buka baut tap oli gearbox lipindut pake kunci apaan ya?
8 mm square head begitu....kirain pake kunci L 8 mm.bisa ternyata dia kotak :ungg:
Nyari di online shop kagak nemu juga pake kunci apa itu. :big_think:
@mbah masas

Mbahh, neh ad yg suka skim read jg nehh selaen saya

D pej2 blakang ud ribuan kl saya bahas soal konci drain plug tp ketauan di skip smua
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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blloewy wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 23:32 Mbah Rektor DOHC nanya dung...
Buka baut tap oli gearbox lipindut pake kunci apaan ya?
8 mm square head begitu....kirain pake kunci L 8 mm.bisa ternyata dia kotak :ungg:
Nyari di online shop kagak nemu juga pake kunci apa itu. :big_think:
Kata kunci nya drain plug wrench atau kunci oli transmisi / gardan

Bsa beli yg set soket sperti mbah yanuar, cuman agak mahal itu, tajir dia soalnya

Kl mau murah, bsa coba yg model tekiro, ukuran 8 ama 10 doank, itu bsa dipake buat lipindut dan hampir gardan2 girbok2 smua mobil2 yurop atau mamarika
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:26
josomba wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:56
Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 0:46

wogh mobil resing nih murnya minta kenceng bgt. :upss:

just info nih mbah, sebelumnya ane sbg nubie mengira kl ketemu baut mur begitu selalu ngencengin dr si mur. setelah punya fsm nya vrz, ternyata makin runyam. ada tulisannya:
*jangan mengencangkan baut (berarti yg dikencengin murnya, baut yg ditahan)
atau
*jangan mengencangkan mur (berarti yg dikencengin bautnya, mur yg ditahan)

asem ga tuh? :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

coba mbah perhatiken gambar utk GK ini, kira2 bautnya apa murnya yg dikencengin? bandingin sm gambar M2 mbah di atas. :mky_03:


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Eh... Owe maksudnya ngencengin persis yg d service manualnya, berarti si mur ya. Suka kebalik2 nyebut mur n baut :big_biglaugh:

LOL jadi ngencengin "baut n mur" juga kudu liat footnote (jika ada) ya. Si bautnya atau si murnya

:big_biglaugh:
:crazyeyes: :e-shhh:

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I'm watching :mky_04:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 5:06
I'm watching :mky_04:
hmm kl jij sih org super siksa diri. insert sm ratchet brand new baru dateng udah dibongkar2 mekanismenya.

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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 5:19
DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 5:06
I'm watching :mky_04:
hmm kl jij sih org super siksa diri. insert sm ratchet brand new baru dateng udah dibongkar2 mekanismenya.

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Btw mbah

Kayanya ntuh trelek oglek beta ama manoskop beneran bsa bete deh ama saya

Dr sejak dibeli dr jij, kbanyakan dsimpen d tool box doank dbkugkus rapi, sisanya cuman perna dipake kencengin busi 2-3 kali doank, ama kencengin mur2 baut2 d enjin bay pas hari pertama doank.. si beta malah cuman perna skali doank dipake buat masang serpentine belt inofa ama hrv

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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sintoni wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:17 Kunci filter oli yg model cakar adjustable itu bagus ga ya?

Atau mending beli yg model sabuk?

Kadang pengen bantuin sodara atau temen ganti oli tapi ga punya kunci filter.

Cuma punya kunci filter Toyota yang non adjustable.
Hati hati yang model cakar pernah lihat waktu ganti oli mobil saya di SnD waduh filter oli hancur.
Sebaiknya pakai yang mangkok.

Kalau mau beli yang adjustable kayanya sabuk lebih aman drpd cakar.

Tapi gak takut om? Niatnya baik bantu, eh pas yang sebelumnya terlalu kencang seretin, pas dibuka malah rusak.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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blloewy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:03
Om, itu nomor 3 baut Link Stabil bukam ya?
Kencenga banget ya sampai 159 Nm...
Kayanya di catetan Mbah Warektor Garasi 58 ngga sampe begitu dech... :big_think:

nomer 3 lower strut bolt.
link stabil nomer 7.

mur/nut link stabilizer kisarannya 25an n.m* untuk yang nempel ke strut/shock.
yang nempel ke stabilizer bar sekitar 35an n.m*.

* = liat FSM masing-masing kendaraan untuk lebih yakin.
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sintoni wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:17 Kunci filter oli yg model cakar adjustable itu bagus ga ya?

Atau mending beli yg model sabuk?

Kadang pengen bantuin sodara atau temen ganti oli tapi ga punya kunci filter.

Cuma punya kunci filter Toyota yang non adjustable.
Paling ok menurut saya mangkok...tp mesti punya banyak kombinasi..
Bulan lalu ganti oli mobil mertua...rusak alat model sabuk saya..mekanik sebelumnya pasang ngawur pasti..untung punya satu lagi yang pake rante
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sintoni wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:17 Kunci filter oli yg model cakar adjustable itu bagus ga ya?

Atau mending beli yg model sabuk?

Kadang pengen bantuin sodara atau temen ganti oli tapi ga punya kunci filter.

Cuma punya kunci filter Toyota yang non adjustable.
Kl cuman buat sekedar buka doank ya gapapa

Saya jg slalu pake yg model cakar itu buat ngebuka, rusak pun jg gapapa kan bakal dbuang tu filter

Kl kencengin tu baru pake belt mesin yg ga kepake, ikutin petunjuk di btol filter nya mo brapa puteran.. cara asemregez ini walaupun dtentang ama mbah2 dsini, tp masi saya praktekan, ga perna ad masalah
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 10:14 .............
Kl kencengin tu baru pake belt mesin yg ga kepake, ikutin petunjuk di btol filter nya mo brapa puteran.. cara asemregez ini walaupun dtentang ama mbah2 dsini, tp masi saya praktekan, ga perna ad masalah
pake belt bekas dililitin ke salah satu pulley yg mudah dicapai trus di starter sekali ta mbah?




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MSU wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:25
Paling ok menurut saya mangkok...tp mesti punya banyak kombinasi..
Bulan lalu ganti oli mobil mertua...rusak alat model sabuk saya..mekanik sebelumnya pasang ngawur pasti..untung punya satu lagi yang pake rante
berarti selanjutnya hrs tanya sebelumnya montirnya abis makan apa.. kl abis makan padang 2 bungkus mending ga usah, minta ganti sm yg cuma makannya nasi sm kuah sayur. :mky_03:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 10:20
DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 10:14 .............
Kl kencengin tu baru pake belt mesin yg ga kepake, ikutin petunjuk di btol filter nya mo brapa puteran.. cara asemregez ini walaupun dtentang ama mbah2 dsini, tp masi saya praktekan, ga perna ad masalah
pake belt bekas dililitin ke salah satu pulley yg mudah dicapai trus di starter sekali ta mbah?

............ :ngacir:
njirrr

itu lgs dolll mbah drat filternya

btw,

cara lilitin belt bekas ke sala satu pulley trus di starter itu perna ta praktekin loh, critanya abis ganti timing belt, pas mo kencengin baut pulley kruk as, mendadak mager ganjel pake obeng, iseng ta ambil satu serpentine belt bekas yg rada panjang, ta lilitin kuat2 ke baut nya yg ta panjangin pake extension , trus ujung satu nya lagi ta simpul mati ke enjin monting, d crank skali, surprise surprise, kuencenggggg loh baut nya :upss: :upss: :upss:

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marmut wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:48
mbahh

channel yutub nya bkin vidio2 kaya gini donk

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiCeFH ... ntY5evjFFQ

biar kita2 kenek2 montir2 tembak rangkap maling delko musatek asemregez bsa pd blajar

masa cuman vidio2 manoskop kencengin baut roda ama deksel doank :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 11:01
Omnibus wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 10:20
DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 10:14 .............
Kl kencengin tu baru pake belt mesin yg ga kepake, ikutin petunjuk di btol filter nya mo brapa puteran.. cara asemregez ini walaupun dtentang ama mbah2 dsini, tp masi saya praktekan, ga perna ad masalah
pake belt bekas dililitin ke salah satu pulley yg mudah dicapai trus di starter sekali ta mbah?

............ :ngacir:
njirrr

itu lgs dolll mbah drat filternya

btw,

cara lilitin belt bekas ke sala satu pulley trus di starter itu perna ta praktekin loh, critanya abis ganti timing belt, pas mo kencengin baut pulley kruk as, mendadak mager ganjel pake obeng, iseng ta ambil satu serpentine belt bekas yg rada panjang, ta lilitin kuat2 ke baut nya yg ta panjangin pake extension , trus ujung satu nya lagi ta simpul mati ke enjin monting, d crank skali, surprise surprise, kuencenggggg loh baut nya :upss: :upss: :upss:

untung waktu itu si trelek oglek ama manoskop belom ad, bsa nangis bombay kl mreka liatnya :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

nah bener kan ..... ane udah tau jalan pikiran si mbah

member aliran anti siksa diri yang seringnya menyiksa diri sendiri dan benda2 disekitarnya :big_weee:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 05]

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DOHC wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 11:49
mbahh

channel yutub nya bkin vidio2 kaya gini donk

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiCeFH ... ntY5evjFFQ

biar kita2 kenek2 montir2 tembak rangkap maling delko musatek asemregez bsa pd blajar

masa cuman vidio2 manoskop kencengin baut roda ama deksel doank :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:

wah... itu mah udah skill dewa.

:frm_salut:

apalah saya ini, ilmu gaada seujung kuku.