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ddmt wrote:Defective system? Boeing bakalan di sue ini.

Beritanya:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... 7-max-jets

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The bulletin from Boeing will alert airlines that erroneous readings from a flight-monitoring system can cause the planes to abruptly dive, said the person, who asked not to be named discussing details of the manufacturer’s plans. Boeing will warn pilots to follow an existing procedure to handle the problem, the person said.

The warning is based on preliminary findings from the accident involving a Lion Air jetliner, the person said. Under some circumstances, such as when pilots are manually flying, the Max jets will automatically try to push down the nose if they detect that an aerodynamic stall is possible, the person said.
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nah mana nih komen para Aircraft defender & Airline defender........kok skg sunyi - sepi.....wkwkwkwk

* geser mic ke babeh nya FRD *

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Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:06
ddmt wrote:Defective system? Boeing bakalan di sue ini.

Beritanya:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... 7-max-jets

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The bulletin from Boeing will alert airlines that erroneous readings from a flight-monitoring system can cause the planes to abruptly dive, said the person, who asked not to be named discussing details of the manufacturer’s plans. Boeing will warn pilots to follow an existing procedure to handle the problem, the person said.

The warning is based on preliminary findings from the accident involving a Lion Air jetliner, the person said. Under some circumstances, such as when pilots are manually flying, the Max jets will automatically try to push down the nose if they detect that an aerodynamic stall is possible, the person said.
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nah mana nih komen para Aircraft defender & Airline defender........kok skg sunyi - sepi.....wkwkwkwk

* geser mic ke babeh nya FRD *
Tenang om, kita ngga berbobot koq bahasannya. Yg berbobot hanyalah FRD krn samtjannya dan dosanya 👌
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Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:06 nah mana nih komen para Aircraft defender & Airline defender........kok skg sunyi - sepi.....wkwkwkwk

* geser mic ke babeh nya FRD *
wkwkk, ini dosa dah lebih banyak (atau mungkin sepenuhnya) di tangan si boeing sih.... Di satu sisi, boeing ngikutin airbus apa kali ya, kalau dah di luar flight envelope, computer "lebih take control" dibandingkan input pilot.

Di sisi lain lagi, Lion Air bisa lebih "selamat" dari amukan massa.....
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b8099ok wrote:
Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:06
ddmt wrote:Defective system? Boeing bakalan di sue ini.

Beritanya:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... 7-max-jets

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The bulletin from Boeing will alert airlines that erroneous readings from a flight-monitoring system can cause the planes to abruptly dive, said the person, who asked not to be named discussing details of the manufacturer’s plans. Boeing will warn pilots to follow an existing procedure to handle the problem, the person said.

The warning is based on preliminary findings from the accident involving a Lion Air jetliner, the person said. Under some circumstances, such as when pilots are manually flying, the Max jets will automatically try to push down the nose if they detect that an aerodynamic stall is possible, the person said.
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nah mana nih komen para Aircraft defender & Airline defender........kok skg sunyi - sepi.....wkwkwkwk

* geser mic ke babeh nya FRD *
Tenang om, kita ngga berbobot koq bahasannya. Yg berbobot hanyalah FRD krn samtjannya dan dosanya [emoji108]
FRD airline kena Grounded gak ?

Sering bawa Duren gak ?
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Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:18
b8099ok wrote:
Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:06 nah mana nih komen para Aircraft defender & Airline defender........kok skg sunyi - sepi.....wkwkwkwk

* geser mic ke babeh nya FRD *
Tenang om, kita ngga berbobot koq bahasannya. Yg berbobot hanyalah FRD krn samtjannya dan dosanya [emoji108]
FRD airline kena Grounded gak ?

Sering bawa Duren gak ?
Lebih sering bawa samtjan kalau FRD Airline mah :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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turut prihatin kalau ternyata memang ada dugaan malfunction / defect dari perangkat di pesawatnya...
berita bloomberg itu udah rame di mana2 dan maskapai lain yang pakai boeing max series pasti juga akan meningkatkan kewaspadaannya.

kalau benar itu adanya maka gugatan ke Boeing dan settlement pakai cheque seperti yang diposting di halaman sebelumnya kayaknya bisa tembus tu..
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Hmmmmmmmm

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Official statement dari Boeing :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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kalo baca artikelnya,
Boeing mau keluarin bulletin terkait sensor AoA (Angle of Attack = alpha) yang bikin pesawat nose dive secara otomatis kalo stall terdeteksi (stall = high AoA)

kalo di kasus JT610, menurut log yang error sensor IAS dan ALT bagian pilot.

nah,
sensor AoA ini kaitannya apa sama IAS ya?
apa karena IAS error sehingga IAS terbaca sangat rendah dan AoA sensor menganggap adanya stall?

:big_think:

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Tapi saya heran begini,
kejadian pagi hari,horizon kelihatan, feeling nya pasti dapet. Tapi kenapa jadi menukik tidak terkontrol dan overspeed. Apa pilotnya sudah dapat SOP yang benar kalau ada kasus seperti ini?
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ilhami wrote:Tapi saya heran begini,
kejadian pagi hari,horizon kelihatan, feeling nya pasti dapet. Tapi kenapa jadi menukik tidak terkontrol dan overspeed. Apa pilotnya sudah dapat SOP yang benar kalau ada kasus seperti ini?
Ya belum, itu baru mau diterbitin.
Kalo bener bulletin warning yg diatas mau dikeluarin, brarti skrg fly by wire nya boeing ikut intervensi saat keluar dr flight envelope, mirip airbus. Pdhl dulu ga gitu kyknya
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Yg gue tau , lion sial pake pilot [cencored]. Yg pertama di bali cebur laut rusak berat . Yg kedua jatuh di laut karawang prefer org lokal sj
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solar_kerosen wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:39 Yg gue tau , lion sial pake pilot india . Yg pertama di bali cebur laut rusak berat . Yg kedua jatuh di laut karawang prefer org lokal sj
btw yang jatoh (kecebur) di bali pilotnya orang Indo, alumni stpi kalo ga salah..
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moga2 CVR ketemu segera

penasaran euy
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alvin23 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:27
ilhami wrote:Tapi saya heran begini,
kejadian pagi hari,horizon kelihatan, feeling nya pasti dapet. Tapi kenapa jadi menukik tidak terkontrol dan overspeed. Apa pilotnya sudah dapat SOP yang benar kalau ada kasus seperti ini?
Ya belum, itu baru mau diterbitin.
Kalo bener bulletin warning yg diatas mau dikeluarin, brarti skrg fly by wire nya boeing ikut intervensi saat keluar dr flight envelope, mirip airbus. Pdhl dulu ga gitu kyknya
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Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 16:23 moga2 CVR ketemu segera

penasaran euy
Di yutube lg rame beredar cvr nya adam air detik2 menjelang jatuh, entha hoax atau bener... tp terdenger sungguh menyedihkan suara para orang2 yg ketakutan menjelang ........
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evolution21 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 18:01 Di yutube lg rame beredar cvr nya adam air detik2 menjelang jatuh, entha hoax atau bener... tp terdenger sungguh menyedihkan suara para orang2 yg ketakutan menjelang ........
Beberapa pengamat bilang hoax, termasuk Gerry.
Pernah post juga di wall dia. Tapi kalo mau ngaduk aduk inet, itu post jadul entah bisa searching sampe awal account berdiri ngga. KI574 kasus lama, kejadiannya 2007.
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Hmmmmmm
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solar_kerosen wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:39 Yg gue tau , lion sial pake pilot india . Yg pertama di bali cebur laut rusak berat . Yg kedua jatuh di laut karawang prefer org lokal sj
walaupun memang human error, tapi maap2 nih ya om solar, cuman rasanya komennya asal njeplak aja.... mending baca laporan knkt-nya dulu atau at least buka wikipedia apa yg bikin celaka.. "Lion sial pake pilot india", tidak perlu se-rasis itu juga lah, toh yg command tu flight JT904 orang kita juga.
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evolution21 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 18:01
Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 16:23 moga2 CVR ketemu segera

penasaran euy
Di yutube lg rame beredar cvr nya adam air detik2 menjelang jatuh, entha hoax atau bener... tp terdenger sungguh menyedihkan suara para orang2 yg ketakutan menjelang ........
Ane paling ngeri denger ginian om.

sering ketemu di Inet sama di medsos, penasaran tapi takut buka.
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sintoni wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:18
evolution21 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 18:01
Turboman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 16:23 moga2 CVR ketemu segera

penasaran euy
Di yutube lg rame beredar cvr nya adam air detik2 menjelang jatuh, entha hoax atau bener... tp terdenger sungguh menyedihkan suara para orang2 yg ketakutan menjelang ........
Ane paling ngeri denger ginian om.

sering ketemu di Inet sama di medsos, penasaran tapi takut buka.
Sama,
dan saya juga gak ngerti ama orang2 yang nyebarin foto / video gore kayak korban kecelakaan kayak gitu,
buat apa... ?

ada kecelakaan, korban tergeletak berdarah2, orang2 sibuk foto2...
what the f*ck is wrong with those people... ??
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Kira2 berapa ya uang yang telah dihabiskan sejauh ini akibat kecelakaan ini? Dan apakah uang tersebut claimable?
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Kok malah nyalahin soal ras ya, masa penyebabnya gitu doang, g sekalian penyebab kecelakaan angkot & bis malem krn ras tertentu jg?[emoji45]

Armadanya nubruk tiang ya waktu mau terbang ya kemarin? (oot)
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bero89 wrote:Kok malah nyalahin soal ras ya, masa penyebabnya gitu doang, g sekalian penyebab kecelakaan angkot & bis malem krn ras tertentu jg?[emoji45]

Armadanya nubruk tiang ya waktu mau terbang ya kemarin? (oot)
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