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newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:58
Herman7103 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:00 Kalau harga BBM kedepan meroket, mobil yg irit BBM, irit harga belinya, irit maintenance nya probably lebih laku dan resale value mobil yg boros BBM, high cost to maintenance tambah jeblok nilainya.
betul mobil yg irit yg laku contoh nya blm lama dec kmaren volkswagen t-roc (1000cc tsi) laku pdhl tdk murah ..... onroad euro 24,000

tapi bukan krn harga minyak naik ...... environmental compliance factor ........ disini darisejk 2011 sdh mulai bersih bersih n skrg euro six sementara euro five mulai jadi kuno

dgn EU mulai pergi dr fossil fuel malah harga minyak akan semakin murah n lama lama akan jadi barang bebas tdk ada lg yg berebut apalagi sampe perang .........
Pernah denger ada yang bilang; perkembangan teknologi energi alternatif kayak tenaga surya or mobil listrik itu sengaja ditekan
sama para produsen minyak, supaya dagangan mereka tetep laku..
agak berbau teori konstipasi remason mamarika wahyudi seh, tapi kok kayaknya masuk akal juga... :big_childish:
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wah sy tdk tau itu ..... conspiracy theory itu makanan org org susah n fikiran pendek ...... arab arab juga omong bgituan n biasa nya sblm mrk klaar omong sdh sy tinggal / ajak omong lain
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newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:58
Herman7103 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:00 Kalau harga BBM kedepan meroket, mobil yg irit BBM, irit harga belinya, irit maintenance nya probably lebih laku dan resale value mobil yg boros BBM, high cost to maintenance tambah jeblok nilainya.
betul mobil yg irit yg laku contoh nya blm lama dec kmaren volkswagen t-roc (1000cc tsi) laku pdhl tdk murah ..... onroad euro 24,000

tapi bukan krn harga minyak naik ...... environmental compliance factor ........ disini darisejk 2011 sdh mulai bersih bersih n skrg euro six sementara euro five mulai jadi kuno

dgn EU mulai pergi dr fossil fuel malah harga minyak akan semakin murah n lama lama akan jadi barang bebas tdk ada lg yg berebut apalagi sampe perang .........
Asik donk. Pertabo bisa goceng nih. :emo-big_love:
Itu kalo pertamina-nya bener. :big_bored:
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Conspiracy theory itu the answer to the mother of all questions :D
Kavling kosong, bisa dikridit.
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Dulu waktu sebelum rusuh 98 deket rumah ada supermarket gede namanya goro kalo gak salah. Bude saya kalo mau lebaran belanja kesini mulu buat bikin parsel.

Sekarang udah gak ada tuh tempat.
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Dekyarov wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:53 Dulu waktu sebelum rusuh 98 deket rumah ada supermarket gede namanya goro kalo gak salah. Bude saya kalo mau lebaran belanja kesini mulu buat bikin parsel.

Sekarang udah gak ada tuh tempat.
kan ada dua dulu goro di jkt ....... ps minggu n klapa gading ...... shopping concept spt makro (n pricesmart sblm jadi club store) beda nya ini non membership

inbreng kluarga gelael + tomi firaun + dekopin n yg klapa gading baru tutup thn 2005 tapi mmg yg pasar minggu dkt tranka abis kena 1998 looting (tanah punya state dept koperasi dulu)

gara gara goro ricardo masuk prodeo (tomi hrs nya juga tapi dpt bonus krn suruh org u bunuh sarifudin kartasasmita yg istri nya dimana mana itu)
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mungkin bisa dibilang thn 98 ada org yg radikal karena ekonomi, skrg zaman milenial ada yg radikal karena agama, sedangkan thn 65 ada yg radikal karena politik

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millenium ini indo (akan) crash krn massive govt bond issuance (n the coming of their redemption time)

2000 - 2018 skrg ini jaman nya global islamic political** radicalism spring (sy sbtul nya terhina sendiri omong bgini krn ini agama sy tapi ada nya itu) **kalo terrorism itu sampe europe tapi kalo political itu sampe di islamic dominance countries level moderate trmsk turkey n egypt n middle eastern states under military dictatorship

sampe 1998 indo crash krn massive overseas-loan bookings

sampe 1950-1967 itu crash krn post colonial trial-n-error nation building
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newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:46 millenium ini indo (akan) crash krn massive govt bond issuance (n the coming of their redemption time)

2000 - 2018 skrg ini jaman nya global islamic political** radicalism spring (sy sbtul nya terhina sendiri omong bgini krn ini agama sy tapi ada nya itu) **kalo terrorism itu sampe europe tapi kalo political itu sampe di islamic dominance countries level moderate trmsk turkey n egypt n middle eastern states under military dictatorship

sampe 1998 indo crash krn massive overseas-loan bookings

sampe 1950-1967 itu crash krn post colonial trial-n-error nation building
kalau menurut om NR, mengapa islamic political bisa terjadi dimana2 ? ini cukup menarik sebenernya, semenjak saddam hussein turun, lanjut khadafi, trus [cencored] naik, dan terjadi arab spring (entah benar gak urutannya)... lalu arus islamic political terjadi dimana2.. sebenernnya ini apakah ada yg menggerakkan atau karena spontanitas saja ? atau ada yg ingin ikut dalam arus biar kepentingan politik/ekonominya bisa tercapai ?
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Menurut saya, Arab spring dan jatuhnya Saddam atau Khadaffi, memang karena collective movement against dictatorships. Teknologi dan media sosial jadi katalis untuk organise the movement. Kebetulan saja itu semua terjadi di negara yang basisnya Moslem.

Kalau [cencored] dan Syria, that’s completely another story.
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newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:23
Dekyarov wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:53 Dulu waktu sebelum rusuh 98 deket rumah ada supermarket gede namanya goro kalo gak salah. Bude saya kalo mau lebaran belanja kesini mulu buat bikin parsel.

Sekarang udah gak ada tuh tempat.
kan ada dua dulu goro di jkt ....... ps minggu n klapa gading ...... shopping concept spt makro (n pricesmart sblm jadi club store) beda nya ini non membership

Saya dulu di bekasi om. Dulu kalo mau belanja bude selalu bawa kijang super, karena sekali belanja bisa 4-5 kardus belanjaan sendiri.

Pernah sekali kesana trolleynya kayak di bandara eh taunya supermarket grosir.

Hahahaha.
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newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:23
dpt bonus krn suruh org u bunuh sarifudin kartasasmita yg istri nya dimana mana itu)
Dulu make mobil apa hakim itu om waktu dibedil? Bmw yak?
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imanoff wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:25 Menurut saya, Arab spring dan jatuhnya Saddam atau Khadaffi, memang karena collective movement against dictatorships. Teknologi dan media sosial jadi katalis untuk organise the movement. Kebetulan saja itu semua terjadi di negara yang basisnya Moslem.

Kalau [cencored] dan Syria, that’s completely another story.
IMO saddam dan gaddafi bukan kebetulan terjaddi di negara yang basisnya moslem, tapi kebetulan terjadi di negara yang sama2 kaya minyak dan mau meninggalkan petrodollar.
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Dekyarov wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 13:24
newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:23
dpt bonus krn suruh org u bunuh sarifudin kartasasmita yg istri nya dimana mana itu)
Dulu make mobil apa hakim itu om waktu dibedil? Bmw yak?
honda crv mk.1 awd yg dia beli rp 250 juta pake wang sogokan dr tomi n kena tembak di bendungan jago kemayoran persis dpn rumah (alm) pak mul yg juragan mas pasar project senen block 2
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don1234 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12
newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:46 millenium ini indo (akan) crash krn massive govt bond issuance (n the coming of their redemption time)

2000 - 2018 skrg ini jaman nya global islamic political** radicalism spring (sy sbtul nya terhina sendiri omong bgini krn ini agama sy tapi ada nya itu) **kalo terrorism itu sampe europe tapi kalo political itu sampe di islamic dominance countries level moderate trmsk turkey n egypt n middle eastern states under military dictatorship

sampe 1998 indo crash krn massive overseas-loan bookings

sampe 1950-1967 itu crash krn post colonial trial-n-error nation building
kalau menurut om NR, mengapa islamic political bisa terjadi dimana2 ? ini cukup menarik sebenernya, semenjak saddam hussein turun, lanjut khadafi, trus [cencored] naik, dan terjadi arab spring (entah benar gak urutannya)... lalu arus islamic political terjadi dimana2.. sebenernnya ini apakah ada yg menggerakkan atau karena spontanitas saja ? atau ada yg ingin ikut dalam arus biar kepentingan politik/ekonominya bisa tercapai ?
ada political cycle dimana tiap 10 thn skali pasti ada attempt coup n kalo gagal maka thn ke 25 atau 30 ada dictator overthrow (to change with fail state situation)

krn pd dasar nya culture n belief are based on authoritarian rule
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newrubble wrote:
Dekyarov wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 15:09
newrubble wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:38 so best way for better future is to elect leader graduated from higher edu, but with no affiliation with: religious group, freedom fighter, military/dictatorship, religious clerginess, street movement

those with such support are (potential) troublemakers and trashbin worthy

jaman skrg lbh baik pegang hard currency
Tapi bu susi sma gak tamat aja malah bikin stres maling ikan ditawar 5 trilion gak goyang. beda ama amin rais yg kuliah di ngamerika.

:mky_04:
ini sy kasih tau 'jelek' (mnrt sy, tapi bagus mnrt majority indos) org org indo blajar n (istilah di warung sblah) nguli ...... sering n kseringan kumpul sesama ini

n byk yg toefl ga naik naik dr 550 krn ampir tiap wkt omong indo

rais cuma skolah sj ama bule (itupun ph.d dia gagal n trpaksa hrs klaarin di malay)

rais hrs duduk n in proper attire saat lecture ..... guru nya rais bicara di dpn

susi multi xperienz sama bule ampe tidur (tanya sj dia)

susi bs sambil tiduran n posisi lain n dressless saat tutor time ..... guru nya susi bicara tdk jauh dr idung / leher susi

nah tinggal di itung by logic
cara mana yg lbh bikin rajin n masuk isi kepala n isi ati?
Panteslah punya line usaha penginderaan jauh..dulu pernah ngebuka situsnya,kaget gilaa "lulusan smp" bisa kepikiran main2 sm radar,satelit dan sonar..



Bu Susi you rock!
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itu namanya intimate home schooling .......................................
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newrubble wrote:itu namanya intimate home schooling .......................................
Maybe ada jg Intesive private assessment.
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lutvi20 wrote:
newrubble wrote:itu namanya intimate home schooling .......................................
Maybe ada jg Intesive private assessment.
Judulnya Private Lesson..
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yg belum ada itu Focus Group Discussion dipimpin bule2
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wah yg aborijin bs pd kabur n minta admin spy thread locking ....... kan di sini kalo ati kena tusuk akan end up bgitu

trutama para pangeran diponegoro

2 hal yg org org indo paling takut ....... chaotic forum n dpt legal reprimand letter / summon(s) / sommatiebrief kata londo londo)

meski mrk dah punya disclaimer tapi kan ga 100% (mau) ngerti itu u apa
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martinnn wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:44 lepas 1998 kebebasan berexpresi dengan munculnya tabloid dan majalah semi [cencored]....lepas 2008 beda 180 derajat dengan moral police dan extremist dimana mana
Populer... Lipstik... Exotica....

Dulu malah dijajakan di depan kios koran atau majalah.

Asik liat gratis...

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newrubble wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:46 millenium ini indo (akan) crash krn massive govt bond issuance (n the coming of their redemption time)

2000 - 2018 skrg ini jaman nya global islamic political** radicalism spring (sy sbtul nya terhina sendiri omong bgini krn ini agama sy tapi ada nya itu) **kalo terrorism itu sampe europe tapi kalo political itu sampe di islamic dominance countries level moderate trmsk turkey n egypt n middle eastern states under military dictatorship

sampe 1998 indo crash krn massive overseas-loan bookings

sampe 1950-1967 itu crash krn post colonial trial-n-error nation building
berarti yang invest ORI mesti cepet2 di lepas yah om? sebelum crash dan jadi junk bond :big_childish:

btw govt shutdown kek di amiriki bisa kejadian disini juga gak yah?
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govt bonds lepas sblm redemption time due

kalo fed shutdown (jaman obama juga kan) impact cuma ke fed employees n senates n congresspersons n diplomatic missions

kalo indo central govt ga mgkn shutdown krn yg hrs di gaji ..... smua pns ...... pensions ...... parliamentarians ....... abri ...... polisi ..... stateministers ..... public highranked-s ..... diplomatic missions ..... indo kan lbh suka genjot taxcollections ..... pantang u govt indo minta debt writeoff (tau tau ambruk sj spt dulu)
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1998,saya merasa jadi orang beruntung,kawan2 yang lolos seleksi perusahaan top,dalam negeri ,macam Pertamina,Humpuss dll,waktu kelar kuliah 1997,merasa, top ,lalu pas 1998 meletus,bommmbbb,makkkk dollar dari 2000an langsung meroket,deposito ane lipat2 thats time wonderful life,masih ada sisa ,jaman itu,dan "lebih",sampai saya di kapal gak mau off,maklum mental dhuafa ketemu gaji Borjuis ,maaf OOT