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ChZ wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:51

Esklas memang setau saya reliability reportnya nggak terlalu baik ya om?

Kalo perawatan rutin di BeRes sih walahualam aja deh... Cuma BeRes nya yang tau tuh mobil diapain... Gua ngikik di pojokan aja om kalo denger mobil nya servis di BeRes...
komen dari user sklas. tp w140 dan w221, yg pertama tahun 96 yg kedua 07, keduanya L bedanya 350 bkn 600 spt presiden.
jujur reliability way much better 140, waaay much. enough said. ngerawat 140 kyk ngerawat jepang
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Ganti rolls royce aja... masa presiden cmn naik mercy . Bosen ga ganti2
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w140 stretched version masih dipakai sbg presidential fleet di india sejak 1992 jaman alm shankar dayal sharma sampai skrg sbg spare/escape vehicle

dua thn lalu unit ini bukan dibuang / phased out (public n int'l auction) tapi malah dpt new engine n armoring upgrade (by jcbl armoring technicians)
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Toyota century pesen 3 pcs. Kan leliabel tuh atoyot. G bth byk spare car. Nti dpt free serpis dr auto2k. Ngarep.com
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thestoneroses wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 13:29
komen dari user sklas. tp w140 dan w221, yg pertama tahun 96 yg kedua 07, keduanya L bedanya 350 bkn 600 spt presiden.
jujur reliability way much better 140, waaay much. enough said. ngerawat 140 kyk ngerawat jepang
Generasi seperti W140, W124, W201 kan memang generasi yang over-engineered oom... Hehehe... Nggak heran reliability nya badak pula...
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Xous wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 16:25 Toyota century pesen 3 pcs. Kan leliabel tuh atoyot. G bth byk spare car. Nti dpt free serpis dr auto2k. Ngarep.com
nah tanya tuh rahmat gobel ......dia pake yg my 2008 ..... alm ayah dia (muhamad gobel) juga pake yg 1972 dan 1978

jaman dulu kalo di diponegoro no 27 sering kliatan n parkir sebelahan w108 milik alm ipik (300 sel 6.3)

century units milik kel gobel blm ada yg jadi bangke sementara milik alm ipik puluhan thn rongsok di dipo motor rawasari (sy trahir liat thn 2002)
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Dulu liat di situs tetangga, w140 s600guard 1999 eks presiden megawati dijual, km nya baru 4rb, keliatannya seger banget, open price 600jt, iklan 2tahun lalu

Saya curiga isi bensinnya kualitas bener ga, itu mesin s600 w221 tahan 10 tahun sm bbm sini menurut saya lumayan jg sih, mana di pedaleman gitu isi pturbo ada ga haha

Belom cara nyetirnya yg mungkin trained driving buat agresive tapi smooth jadi mobilnya begitu dipake lgsg kerja lumayan keras, ga kaya kita pake mobil santai2 buat keliling kota hehe

W221 ktnya yg reliable setelah 2009 model year, yang ini early model 2007 yg emg katanya banyak issue

Jadi inget bbrp bulan lalu nelpon pro motor buat diagnosis mobil dirumah ga mau nyala, orgnya bilang bentar ya pak mobil servicenya lagi dipake ngejumper G class paspampres yg mogok di tanah abang

Mungkin musti nunggu w222 5 tahun production baru deh beli biar kejamin reliabilitynya hehehe
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thestoneroses wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 13:29
ChZ wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:51

Esklas memang setau saya reliability reportnya nggak terlalu baik ya om?

Kalo perawatan rutin di BeRes sih walahualam aja deh... Cuma BeRes nya yang tau tuh mobil diapain... Gua ngikik di pojokan aja om kalo denger mobil nya servis di BeRes...
komen dari user sklas. tp w140 dan w221, yg pertama tahun 96 yg kedua 07, keduanya L bedanya 350 bkn 600 spt presiden.
jujur reliability way much better 140, waaay much. enough said. ngerawat 140 kyk ngerawat jepang
setuju deh, ngurusin mercy generasi W140, W124 itu udah enak bgt, kaya ngerawat kijang, sering juga lebih murah. elektrikal juga ga macem2.

kalo masalah yg mbl jkw itu kayanya masalah di pedal gas, udah beberapa kali di S600 W220 atau Viano keluarga kejadian kaya gt ntah kenapa.
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newrubble wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 17:10
Xous wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 16:25 Toyota century pesen 3 pcs. Kan leliabel tuh atoyot. G bth byk spare car. Nti dpt free serpis dr auto2k. Ngarep.com
nah tanya tuh rahmat gobel ......dia pake yg my 2008 ..... alm ayah dia (muhamad gobel) juga pake yg 1972 dan 1978

jaman dulu kalo di diponegoro no 27 sering kliatan n parkir sebelahan w108 milik alm ipik (300 sel 6.3)

century units milik kel gobel blm ada yg jadi bangke sementara milik alm ipik puluhan thn rongsok di dipo motor rawasari (sy trahir liat thn 2002)
Terlalu mahal kalau century beli di iu. Mending ke atpm
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Wajar sih mobil sekompleks S600 reliabilitynya ga bisa disamakan sama S350.
Mesin V12 biturbo dipake sehari hari bisa tahan 10 tahun itu remarkable. Apalagi model guard yang pasti lebih berat karena armor plating dan kaca anti peluru.
Engineering dasar: makin kompleks maka makin tinggi kemungkinan suatu komponen gagal.

Blom lagi engine baynya yang sangat rapat. Sasis yg serupa dari V6 3500 cc S350 dibuat nampung mesin 5500 cc V12. Ukuran 2x, jumlah silinder 2x, pasti panasnya juga minimal 2x. That heat must go somewhere. Ga keliatan sih bedanya cooling vent di S300 sama S600 guard.

Kalo aku paspampres sih mending cari mobil executive yg diesel.Selain biasanya ukuran mesin lebih kecil untuk mobil yang sama, resiko kebakaran juga lebih kecil. Ga ada throttle body yang katanya bermasalah di S600 di kalbar kemarin. Ga ada sistem pengapian. Rasio kompresi lebih besar sehingga panas buangan lebih kecil. Audi A8 4.2 V8 diesel comes to mind.

Demikian celotehan sotoy saya.

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Kalo pengen ganti RI-1, mending disiapkan 2 jenis mobilnya deh... mengingat kebiasaan pak Jokowi yang suka berkunjung ke daerah...

1 S klasse dan sejenisnya yg bulletproof,dan 1 lg Land Cruiser yg juga bulletproof...
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silentIm2 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:16 Wajar sih mobil sekompleks S600 reliabilitynya ga bisa disamakan sama S350.
Mesin V12 biturbo dipake sehari hari bisa tahan 10 tahun itu remarkable. Apalagi model guard yang pasti lebih berat karena armor plating dan kaca anti peluru.
Engineering dasar: makin kompleks maka makin tinggi kemungkinan suatu komponen gagal.

Blom lagi engine baynya yang sangat rapat. Sasis yg serupa dari V6 3500 cc S350 dibuat nampung mesin 5500 cc V12. Ukuran 2x, jumlah silinder 2x, pasti panasnya juga minimal 2x. That heat must go somewhere. Ga keliatan sih bedanya cooling vent di S300 sama S600 guard.

Kalo aku paspampres sih mending cari mobil executive yg diesel.Selain biasanya ukuran mesin lebih kecil untuk mobil yang sama, resiko kebakaran juga lebih kecil. Ga ada throttle body yang katanya bermasalah di S600 di kalbar kemarin. Ga ada sistem pengapian. Rasio kompresi lebih besar sehingga panas buangan lebih kecil. Audi A8 4.2 V8 diesel comes to mind.

Demikian celotehan sotoy saya.

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Ya memang spt dijelaskan om jivos... dasarnya reliability report mobil nya yang buruk... Dan kalo searching di forum2 trobelnya beragam dari varian S350-600 hampir sama semua...

Klw dari gejalanya (gas kosong)... Gejalanya mirip sama SX4 ane dulu... Problem paling di throttle position sensor...

Suspect kedua fuel pump bermasalah... Krn katanya gejala udah berkali - kali...
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Supirnya dihukum mati di tempat...

Merek mobilnya di sue gak boleh beroperasi lagi ...
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K8055PK wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:29
Zaxis wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:30 Ganti LC atau LX aja biar reliable
Cocok jg buat blusukan drpd sedan
Ada yg armored version ga yah
Ntar kalo mogok malah disuruh edukasi.
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ucoksimartole wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:12
newrubble wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 17:10
Xous wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 16:25 Toyota century pesen 3 pcs. Kan leliabel tuh atoyot. G bth byk spare car. Nti dpt free serpis dr auto2k. Ngarep.com
nah tanya tuh rahmat gobel ......dia pake yg my 2008 ..... alm ayah dia (muhamad gobel) juga pake yg 1972 dan 1978

jaman dulu kalo di diponegoro no 27 sering kliatan n parkir sebelahan w108 milik alm ipik (300 sel 6.3)

century units milik kel gobel blm ada yg jadi bangke sementara milik alm ipik puluhan thn rongsok di dipo motor rawasari (sy trahir liat thn 2002)
Terlalu mahal kalau century beli di iu. Mending ke atpm
gobel muda pesan dr a2000 wahid hasim jkt ..... pesan via govt fleet division yg kantoor disono
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Mobilnya ud dikembalikan satu tuh sama bapak itu, jd skrg s600 nya di sesneg sdh 8 unit
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farizfsa wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:44
thestoneroses wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 13:29
ChZ wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:51

Esklas memang setau saya reliability reportnya nggak terlalu baik ya om?

Kalo perawatan rutin di BeRes sih walahualam aja deh... Cuma BeRes nya yang tau tuh mobil diapain... Gua ngikik di pojokan aja om kalo denger mobil nya servis di BeRes...
komen dari user sklas. tp w140 dan w221, yg pertama tahun 96 yg kedua 07, keduanya L bedanya 350 bkn 600 spt presiden.
jujur reliability way much better 140, waaay much. enough said. ngerawat 140 kyk ngerawat jepang
setuju deh, ngurusin mercy generasi W140, W124 itu udah enak bgt, kaya ngerawat kijang, sering juga lebih murah. elektrikal juga ga macem2.

kalo masalah yg mbl jkw itu kayanya masalah di pedal gas, udah beberapa kali di S600 W220 atau Viano keluarga kejadian kaya gt ntah kenapa.
yup setuju om, user jg sptnya ya? elektrikal paling gampil, sedangkan keempukan tetep sama. jkt-jogja naek 140 dan 221 sama aja, malah lebih nyaman 140 sptnya (kebawa perasaan mungkin ya istilah anak skrg). bengsin sama2 juga, sama senengnya lihat pom maunya belok he he paling paitnya 140 kalo printilan kena susah nyarinya

kalo mogok karena pompa mati diisi premium sih saya nyengir aja...
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silentIm2 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:16 Wajar sih mobil sekompleks S600 reliabilitynya ga bisa disamakan sama S350.
Mesin V12 biturbo dipake sehari hari bisa tahan 10 tahun itu remarkable. Apalagi model guard yang pasti lebih berat karena armor plating dan kaca anti peluru.
Engineering dasar: makin kompleks maka makin tinggi kemungkinan suatu komponen gagal.

Blom lagi engine baynya yang sangat rapat. Sasis yg serupa dari V6 3500 cc S350 dibuat nampung mesin 5500 cc V12. Ukuran 2x, jumlah silinder 2x, pasti panasnya juga minimal 2x. That heat must go somewhere. Ga keliatan sih bedanya cooling vent di S300 sama S600 guard.

Kalo aku paspampres sih mending cari mobil executive yg diesel.Selain biasanya ukuran mesin lebih kecil untuk mobil yang sama, resiko kebakaran juga lebih kecil. Ga ada throttle body yang katanya bermasalah di S600 di kalbar kemarin. Ga ada sistem pengapian. Rasio kompresi lebih besar sehingga panas buangan lebih kecil. Audi A8 4.2 V8 diesel comes to mind.

Demikian celotehan sotoy saya.

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Udalah, kesuwen, blg ke setneg siapin dana buat v222 guard.. Jgn lupa sekalian vv222 pullman guardnya ya

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Bilangnya fuel pump yang masalah.

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Nightster Guy wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:08 Udalah, kesuwen, blg ke setneg siapin dana buat v222 guard.. Jgn lupa sekalian vv222 pullman guardnya ya

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sintoni wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:29 Bilangnya fuel pump yang masalah.

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masa diisi pertamax..... :big_bored: