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Re: First Impression Mazda3 Hatchback

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Keren banget nih reviewnya master
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Power mirip2 tapi Civic HB punya turbo sementara Mazda 3 punya a very refined 6-speed AT tranny. :e-think:

I still don't like Civic HB overall looks, terlalu ricer dan lebay. Yang kaya gini biasanya lebih cepet kemakan usia modelnya... Much prefer the sedan version.
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di website mazda dah ada harganya kok
417jt
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Kalo 417jt ok banget nih bisa bersaing, apalagi built qualitynya lebih baik dari civic turbo.
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[/quote]Nah itu yang bikin saya agak gimana liat lineup Mazda zaman now... :big_slap: beli mobil mahal - mahal disangka versi murahnya, kurang lebih kayak saya punya Civic FB sering disangka Honda City karna mirip :big_slap: [/quote]

[emoji317] Haaaa om chz summon nubie as civic kw user nih...[emoji48]

Makanya niat upgrade ke victur krn turbo & modelnya, so far pernah bw cvt bbrp hari no problem sih walau jujur itu jambakan AT jadul will be missed.

Kalo adu BQ mazda lebih memberi kesan premium dibanding rival2 sekelas ( 2 vs jazz, cx5 vs crv ) terutama fitur2 & kualitas interior kalo handling u/nubie 11-12, tapi nubie pilih design citur deh drpd kodo design by mazda, nubie bukan tdk suka design kodo, cuma preferensi simplicity vs futuristis, flat torque vs high rev [emoji1316]

Oya dgn harga si 3 segitu otr jd brp ya pajak taunan??

Nice review btw [emoji1319]
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Waduuuh naksir....jadi galau mazda3 baru atau infiniti fx bekas ya.....
emansipasi perempuan....tapi jangan panggil saya "om"
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alicevamps wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 13:57 Waduuuh naksir....jadi galau mazda3 baru atau infiniti fx bekas ya.....
Wah ambil fx aja deh kalau udah siap ngurusnya mah, sekalian review disini karena ini mobil jarang usernya
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Klo tampang seragam bukannya honda jg skr tampangnya seragam? Yg logonya mirip iket pinggang itu? Dan mnurut sy design logo tsb paling masuk justru di lineup paling bawahnya Brio. Sy pribadi lbh suka sleek design mazda yg akan lbh long lasting dbanding gundam style ala honda, mungkin beda usia beda selera.
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BrianK3 wrote:Power mirip2 tapi Civic HB punya turbo sementara Mazda 3 punya a very refined 6-speed AT tranny. :e-think:

I still don't like Civic HB overall looks, terlalu ricer dan lebay. Yang kaya gini biasanya lebih cepet kemakan usia modelnya... Much prefer the sedan version.
Klo desain masalah selera ya... Hehehe... Klo saya masih suka civic krn buat saya tampang ricernya kayak punya s3x appeal yang lebih baik.
evolution21 wrote:di website mazda dah ada harganya kok
417jt
eka00 wrote:Kalo 417jt ok banget nih bisa bersaing, apalagi built qualitynya lebih baik dari civic turbo.
Nah makanya heran jg klo dibilang 480jt, semoga salah info deh.
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[emoji317] Haaaa om chz summon nubie as civic kw user nih...[emoji48]

Makanya niat upgrade ke victur krn turbo & modelnya, so far pernah bw cvt bbrp hari no problem sih walau jujur itu jambakan AT jadul will be missed.

Kalo adu BQ mazda lebih memberi kesan premium dibanding rival2 sekelas ( 2 vs jazz, cx5 vs crv ) terutama fitur2 & kualitas interior kalo handling u/nubie 11-12, tapi nubie pilih design citur deh drpd kodo design by mazda, nubie bukan tdk suka design kodo, cuma preferensi simplicity vs futuristis, flat torque vs high rev [emoji1316]

Oya dgn harga si 3 segitu otr jd brp ya pajak taunan??

Nice review btw [emoji1319]
Bawa line up Honda zaman now yang CVT turbo sih klo dibilang ga ngejambak ya ngga juga loh, cm entah knp jambakannya buat ane kayak good old VTEC.... Berasa linear dengan kosong2 dikit di bawah dan torque lebih padet.
f1r3f0x wrote:Klo tampang seragam bukannya honda jg skr tampangnya seragam? Yg logonya mirip iket pinggang itu? Dan mnurut sy design logo tsb paling masuk justru di lineup paling bawahnya Brio. Sy pribadi lbh suka sleek design mazda yg akan lbh long lasting dbanding gundam style ala honda, mungkin beda usia beda selera.
Nah ini menarik dibahas ...

Buat saya "muka" itu brand identity, keen look toyota, solid wing honda, dynamic shield mitsu, V grille nissan, kodo mazda, kidney BMW... Dst.

Tapi klo overall design balik ke desainer bisa ngembangin "muka" tersebut sampe sejauh apa. Kayak misal BMW... Pokoknya apapun yang terjadi mobil gw harus ada double kidney nya di depan.

Tp buktinya BMW bisa improvisasi jauh dari Mercedes yang bentuknya sama semua cm beda ukuran. Contoh buruk adalah Nissan (March FL, Xtrail T30 V grille dan T31)

Mazda kayaknya ngikut caranya Mercedes... Nah klo soal cara kembali ke "agama" masing masing merek... Yang milih tinggal selera konsumen aja.

Mungkin desain Civic Hatchback dibuat ricer krn Honda mau satir ke pengguna di amerika... Hahahahha. Disono kan Civic identik mobil ricer. Sekalian aja defaultnya dibuat ala ricer.
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Very nice review oom, and that's one gorgeous car...

Naturally aspirated engine, good old torque converter trans, susah nyari salahnya ini mobil hahaha
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torehan figure angka nya mungkin um...utk modern engine 2.0 skrg yg bermain d 200hp.
0-100...jg msh d bwh SSS yg bs dpt d 8.7s
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Nice review chris

Mazda emang diciptain buat orang yang mentingin fitur, fun to drive & quality, walaupun harganya lebih mahal daripada kompetitor sekelasnya, btw desainnya cakep juga, lebih bagus daripada FK4 menurut gw hahaha
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adriangaut wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:53 Very nice review oom, and that's one gorgeous car...

Naturally aspirated engine, good old torque converter trans, susah nyari salahnya ini mobil hahaha
Iya sih, susah nyari kelemahan mobil ini, paling ya kelemahan khas mazda yaitu akomodasi & kepraktisan hahaha
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eka00 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:48 Kalo 417jt ok banget nih bisa bersaing, apalagi built qualitynya lebih baik dari civic turbo.
Cuma masalahnya, orang indo masih mentingin brand sama akomodasi sebagai prioritas, dimana ke2 hal tersebut menjadi kelemahan mazda 3 menurut saya, tapi kalau dikota besar sih harusnya ga masalah soal brand
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adriangaut wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:53 Very nice review oom, and that's one gorgeous car...

Naturally aspirated engine, good old torque converter trans, susah nyari salahnya ini mobil hahaha
Sayangnya nih Mazda kalo beneran ngincer enthusiast seharusnya offer pilihan Manual Transmission...
jivos wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 torehan figure angka nya mungkin um...utk modern engine 2.0 skrg yg bermain d 200hp.
0-100...jg msh d bwh SSS yg bs dpt d 8.7s
Klo claim di luaran sih sekitar 8s om... cuma versi test Otodriver 9.7s... entahlah mungkin masih break-in period
Pboyz97 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 15:51
Cuma masalahnya, orang indo masih mentingin brand sama akomodasi sebagai prioritas, dimana ke2 hal tersebut menjadi kelemahan mazda 3 menurut saya, tapi kalau dikota besar sih harusnya ga masalah soal brand
Pemikiran kayak gini harus mulai dibuang jauh - jauh.

Klo Engineer Mazda ditanya apakah mereka bench-marking ke rival Jepang, mereka ya akan ketawa aja, wong memang enggak. Tujuan mereka bikin mobil sport (jinba-ittai sensation) bukan fokus ke akomodasi dan kenyamanan. Klo itu jadi kekurangan mereka ya wajar-wajar aja, gak bisa dicompare, klo dicompare akan jadi aneh sendiri. 3 itu harusnya saingan sama A-Class, 1-series, A3... krn memang Mazda benchmarking ke rival Eropa.

Sama klo engineer Honda ditanya apakah mereka bikin mobil sport, ya sama, diketawain juga. Lo mau mobil sport kok beli family car lineups nya mereka... udah kebiasaan Honda family car lineups nya nggak di-tune untuk jadi "sporty". rasa "sport" yang didapet cuma efek dari fine-tuning chassis dan mesin aja.

Susah nyari salahnya Mazda3, susah juga mau compare dengan rivalnya Civic Hatch, sama susahnya compare CX-5 baru dengan CR-V Turbo. Ngebandingin dua merek yang fokus bikin mobilnya beda akan terdengar seperti bandingin burung merpati sama burung elang...

Putusan beli yang mana ? Ya nggak heran CR-V dan Civic lebih laku, karena konsumen yang sanggup beli mobil ini mayoritas udah berkeluarga. Otomatis pilihan akan lebih condong ke yang lebih sensibel untuk keluarga.
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ChZ wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 19:13

Pemikiran kayak gini harus mulai dibuang jauh - jauh.

Klo Engineer Mazda ditanya apakah mereka bench-marking ke rival Jepang, mereka ya akan ketawa aja, wong memang enggak. Tujuan mereka bikin mobil sport (jinba-ittai sensation) bukan fokus ke akomodasi dan kenyamanan. Klo itu jadi kekurangan mereka ya wajar-wajar aja, gak bisa dicompare, klo dicompare akan jadi aneh sendiri. 3 itu harusnya saingan sama A-Class, 1-series, A3... krn memang Mazda benchmarking ke rival Eropa.

Sama klo engineer Honda ditanya apakah mereka bikin mobil sport, ya sama, diketawain juga. Lo mau mobil sport kok beli family car lineups nya mereka... udah kebiasaan Honda family car lineups nya nggak di-tune untuk jadi "sporty". rasa "sport" yang didapet cuma efek dari fine-tuning chassis dan mesin aja.

Susah nyari salahnya Mazda3, susah juga mau compare dengan rivalnya Civic Hatch, sama susahnya compare CX-5 baru dengan CR-V Turbo. Ngebandingin dua merek yang fokus bikin mobilnya beda akan terdengar seperti bandingin burung merpati sama burung elang...

Putusan beli yang mana ? Ya nggak heran CR-V dan Civic lebih laku, karena konsumen yang sanggup beli mobil ini mayoritas udah berkeluarga. Otomatis pilihan akan lebih condong ke yang lebih sensibel untuk keluarga.
Setuju chris, memang honda diciptain buat orang yg family oriented & mentingin akomodasi & kenyamanan, sedangkan mazda buat yg nyari fitur, fun to drive & handling. Terus mazda memang mau jadi premium "entry level" nya brand jepang, makanya ga heran kalo mazda itu berpatokan ke brand eropa, bukan ke sesama rivalnya dari jepang.
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geofreyap wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:46
geofreyap wrote:Nanti skyactiv-X pertama bakal di cemplungin ke Mazda3 ini.
Tahun depan sih katanya.
Yaaa berarti timing nya EMI rada kurang tepat masukin sekarang ya oom
Kalau dilihat dari market global, mungkin kurang tepat ya.
Tapi kalau dari market lokal, sebenarnya lumayan pas, secara civic HB meluncur juga diwaktu yg berdekatan.

Kalo diliat dari timeline produksi, harusnya memang saatnya mulai ganti model. Sama seperti mazda5 yg masuk kesini skrg, itu unit sisa aja di jepang.
Jimny pun demikian.

Trus soal mesin, kalo ga salah yg masuk sini itu versi 2.0L yg paling besar setup powernya. Sampai 165hp / 210Nm. CR 14:1.
Di luar sana ada jg yg lebih kecil outputnya, mirip kaya cx3.
Dan kalo ga salah lagi, yg masuk sini itu minimum RON95.
Mgkn biar ga jauh dari figure output civic ya.

CMIIW :big_peace:
kalo mazda yang udah skyactiv kan emang rata rata rekomendasinya kalo mau maksimal performanya 95 bukannya?
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Kalau rekomendasi sih betul ya.
Tapi kalau minimum requirement, untuk yg CR 14:1 ini min. 95.
CMIIW ya :)
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