Porsche Boxster 2003 - Red Hot Chilli Janda

[ripratama]

nah ini sy pernah bilang ... european sports cars in indo itu salah habitat

wang sdh sampe u beli ... tapi mindset blm

ini spt kita bicara (kalo bicara aviation industry) ... knp single prop mechanic punya minimum wage per hour lbh rendah drpd org yg airbus/boeing mechanic certified n officially appointed to care n repair airbus/boeing products

Om NR betul banget. Jangankan euro sports car; euro truck atau bus saja mampu dibeli tapi perawatannya below standard. Habis itu main kanibal. Performance turun, usia pakai lebih pendek, populasi unit menyusut. Semua karena niat ngirit yg ga pada tempatnya.

[beta adrener]

om, itu lbh dari 20jt harga jasa nya aja brp???
and part apa aja jadinya yg diganti

[phakbola]

Kemarin siang mobil sudah diambil. Total damage cost sedikit diatas 20jt...ouch

Tapi sore nya sudah lupa. Terbayar sama kepuasan menyetir mobil ini dgn kondisi lebih baik (shift transmisi perfect, almost clean bill of health).

This weekend will be awesome

Beli aki 1,8 juta.

Tax hampir 8 jt, murah utk ukuran sports car.

Om, kalo berkenan boleh donk rinciannya 20jt lebih itu untuk apa aja?

[fizrmen]

om rumahnya di sekiataran bsd ya? td saya liat mobilnya di depan villa melati mas :v

[veyvez]

Om ripratama, saya izin save foto 993 sama 356nya ya

[fizrmen]

tadi pas lagi testdrive ANPS siang ketemu lagi di alsut

[POS VETT]

Kalau dibandingkan dengan biaya2 servis Porsche di sini, masih termasuk murah. Dengan kurs $1 ~ Rp. 14,000 (supaya gampang hitungannya), biaya Rp. 20 juta sekitar $1,400 dan biaya jasa Rp. 900k/jam sekitar $64/jam.

Rule of thumb buat high-line European cars seperti MB, BMW, Porsche, LR, Maserati, AM, Jaguar, dll kalau servis di dealer tiap kali minimum $1k dan biaya jasa per jamnya paling sedikit $150 dan bisa sampai $200. Wong di dealer merk Amrik, Jepang, dan Korea, jasanya paling sedikit $100/jam.

Salut buat kerjain sendiri ganti oli transmisi dan filter, bisa punya jackstands dan floor jack dan alat2 yang cukup. Servis2 ringan dan kecil seperti ini bisa dinikmati sambil mengenal mobil sendiri lebih dalam.

[phakbola]

Kan uda kelamaan di bengkel, melepas rindu dibawa jalan2 terus jandanya

[ripratama]

Om, kalo berkenan boleh donk rinciannya 20jt lebih itu untuk apa aja?

On board diagnostic 450rb (setengah jam kerja)
Manhours 11,5 jam - cek macam2 mulai wiring, sensor, rembes, ganti modul switch transmisi, soft top...total 10,350 jt
Brake cleaner 3 x 600 ml @ 135rb = 405rb
Module switch transmisi 7,660 jt
PPN 10%
Total 20.751.500

Ditawari beres utk ganti aki Varta 80A seharga 3,5 jt ++, saya decline. Lifetimenya variatif; pernah pakai lebih dr 5 tahun, pernah juga cuma 7-8 bulan.
Cek aki equivalent di toko langganan, Amaron (Johnson Controls' subsidiary) cuma 1,85 jt - saya ambil ini krn bisa ke rumah dan garansi setahun.

[newrubble]

kalo di previous page disebut tax 8juta artinya accrued amount itu 80juta ... apa sy salah baca?

[ripratama]

Om ripratama, saya izin save foto 993 sama 356nya ya

Silahken Om. Mau beli hi-res nya juga welcome Om... Hahaha

om rumahnya di sekiataran bsd ya? td saya liat mobilnya di depan villa melati mas :v

Rumah di AlSut, Om. Kemarin habis isi bensin di Shell. Om di Serpong juga?

Om test drive PJS di AlSut? Pas kita papasan, saya malah otw Central Park mau liat PJS disana

[ripratama]

kalo di previous page disebut tax 8juta artinya accrued amount itu 80juta ... apa sy salah baca?

Om NR, maksud saya vehicle/road tax yg 8 juta. Btw thanks utk history lesson nya. Jadi teringat waktu Marvia release porsche2an itu. Eksterior dan interior cukup akurat, fender widebody seperti 964 Turbo. Minus di engine dan detail2nya.

[fizrmen]

Om ripratama, saya izin save foto 993 sama 356nya ya

Silahken Om. Mau beli hi-res nya juga welcome Om... Hahaha

om rumahnya di sekiataran bsd ya? td saya liat mobilnya di depan villa melati mas :v

Rumah di AlSut, Om. Kemarin habis isi bensin di Shell. Om di Serpong juga?

Om test drive PJS di AlSut? Pas kita papasan, saya malah otw Central Park mau liat PJS disana

Saya tinggal di Ciputat sih om hehe, kmrn test drive PJS karena abis nginep di apartemen temen aja sih, kebetulan temen saya ini penasaran bgt jadi yaudah deh cusss

[newrubble]

kalo di previous page disebut tax 8juta artinya accrued amount itu 80juta ... apa sy salah baca?

Om NR, maksud saya vehicle/road tax yg 8 juta. Btw thanks utk history lesson nya. Jadi teringat waktu Marvia release porsche2an itu. Eksterior dan interior cukup akurat, fender widebody seperti 964 Turbo. Minus di engine dan detail2nya.

i c (ty) tax cuma sdikit lbh mahal dr 2012 fortuner vnt (rp.7juta+) ...

satu teman sy di uk (james healy-pratt) koleksi marvia itu n kata dia harga terus naik n sering hari mggu dia pakai ..

a head turner kata dia ..

[ripratama]

Kalau dibandingkan dengan biaya2 servis Porsche di sini, masih termasuk murah. Dengan kurs $1 ~ Rp. 14,000 (supaya gampang hitungannya), biaya Rp. 20 juta sekitar $1,400 dan biaya jasa Rp. 900k/jam sekitar $64/jam.

Rule of thumb buat high-line European cars seperti MB, BMW, Porsche, LR, Maserati, AM, Jaguar, dll kalau servis di dealer tiap kali minimum $1k dan biaya jasa per jamnya paling sedikit $150 dan bisa sampai $200. Wong di dealer merk Amrik, Jepang, dan Korea, jasanya paling sedikit $100/jam.

Salut buat kerjain sendiri ganti oli transmisi dan filter, bisa punya jackstands dan floor jack dan alat2 yang cukup. Servis2 ringan dan kecil seperti ini bisa dinikmati sambil mengenal mobil sendiri lebih dalam.

Ahem...thanks pencerahannya Om Vett. Btw ternak Om Vett kan banyak tuh... semua maintain di authorized dealer Om?
Enaknya disana, banyak alternatif specialist yg jago dengan rate lebih wallet-friendly ya? Spare parts juga mudah dan cepat.

Saya seneng ngulik Om. Yang bisa dikerjakan sendiri ya dikerjakan sendiri. Ongkos manhour 5 jam sudah kebeli 1 set tools entry level (floor jack, stand, torque wrench, oil gun, socket, hex tool, dll). Service manual bisa dibeli. Apalagi jaman internet sekarang, apa aja bisa dipelajari di forum or youtube.

[arfs]

Baca baca forum ini jadi ingat salah satu episode wheeler dealers ini


Versi video nya yg lebih jernih di dailymotion:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1161h ... #tab_embed

Semoga bisa memberi inspirasi DIY buat om ripratama

[ripratama]

Baca baca forum ini jadi ingat salah satu episode wheeler dealers ini
Semoga bisa memberi inspirasi DIY buat om ripratama

Aih Om....thank you thank you. Video ini ada kali saya tonton 3-4x sebelum beraniin diri beli Boxster dulu....hahaha
Kl lihat Mike & Ed, sepertinya enak bgt; beli mobil, beresin cepet2x terus laku dan dapet untung.

[martinnn]

Nih om ada artikel ttg Porsche dulu mau kerja sama ama Indomobil
Sumber: http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-story ... 1681273642
The Story of Porsche's Disastrous Launch in Indonesia.

Porsche has been in Indonesia since very long time ago, dating back to the Porsche 356 days. But the majority of them is a grey import. Porsche once tried to launch their brand and opens a brand new assembling facility here in Indonesia. But it's just ended up as a dream. Here's the Story.

In 1996, Porsche was busy expanding, targeting Indonesia as their first foray to the untaped Southeast Asia market. Who knows they could sell a few of those Carreras and Boxters in here. But since Porsche was a small manufacture, they need a partner. They need somebody who knows how to market a car properly in Indonesia. And they ended up signing a deal with Indomobil in December 1996 and start selling Porsches in October 1997.

Indomobil was one of the biggest car seller in Indonesia. They had networks of dealers who sold many cars. They sold and sometimes build Mazda, Hino, Peugeot, Volvo, Renault, Suzuki, VW, and Audi for Indonesian market. So Porsche thinks they had a very good partner.

Porsche put a Indomobil lot of faith so much that they even set up a manufacturing to build a Comepletely Knocked-Down (CKD) Porsches for Southeast Asian market. This is because, as we know Southeast Asian countries like Indonesia and Malaysia has huge import taxes. But in Indonesia you get free import tax if you assembly the car here with at least 51% of the parts were made using Indonesian Contents. Also, to boost trades between Southeast Asia Countries, things that imported from the ASEAN member is free of import tax. So Porsche hopes they could sell the Carerras and Boxters for cheap in Southeast Asia if they build the Porsche, here.

And oh, they pick Indonesia because Indonesia is the biggest member of Southeast Asia, and ruled by a general that has been ruling the country for 30 years, so Porsche thinks Indonesia is a bit more stable than other Southeast asian countries. Plus we also has some experience building CKD JDM cars, compared to Malaysia or Thailand or Singapore at that time.

But there's a problem. First off, since despite Porsche has a manufacturing facility here in Indonesia, they still had to import the parts like body shell or engines. Therefore they get a 300% Import tax. So despite that, they had to priced the base model Carrera at 250,000 USD. In 1997.

The second problem was, that car. When Indonesian Goverment launch their very own car maker, Timor, which is essentially a rebadged Kia Sephia, every car makers gone mad. Because, despite it's still imported from south korea, it has no import tax so they could sell the Timor for less than 10 grand. And that makes everybody mad, including Porsche.

I mean, when Timor was launched in 1996, they literally launch the car from scratch. They had no factory, no dealership, no service center, nothing. Nobody bats an eye to them. Until the cars are finally hit the market and outrage everybody.

Let me put it this way. The Timor was so cheap that you could buy 4 Timors for less than 1 base model Toyota Corolla. A Timor is half of what you paying for a very basic Suzuki Carry with no A/C and radio. It was that cheap. The Japanese car manufaturer even goes as far as filing a lawsuit to WTO that they're not threaten as equally as the Timors, despite they're making cars i Indonesia and using local contents since 1970's.

But i think the final nail in the coffin was the Marvia.
Marvia is a small Indonesian kit-car manufacture that's founded by one of the Indomobil board member, Marvi Affandi. The problem is, when he had the tooling to made Porsche 911 body panels, he instead using it to build a Porsche 911 Kit Car based on a Mazda 323 Hatchback, and launch the car in September 1997 and sold also by Indomobil.

Porsche is really mad with Indomobil. They even goes as far as quit the enitre Indonesian Domestic Market. They remove all the signage from almost-launched Porsche Dealership accross the Country. They burn all the catalogue and cancel all the printed advertisement for the 911. They scrapped all the toolings and metals they originally wants to build the 911. They even nearly file a lawsuit to WTO, alongside Mazda who also mad by the fact Indomobil used a 323 parts for they own good. But this was settled out of the court, maybe with lots of monies and apologizing.

After that debacle, Porsche marketing in Indonesia were handled by PT Eurokars Companies, which is an official dealer networks for BMW and Rolls-Royce in Indonesia and finally sold a proper german-made car since 2004.

marvia...baru denger skrang...sejarahnya menarik juga.... kalau dilihat dari hukum saat ini sih ya jelas replika skala industri pasti dilarang ya....kalau pada masa itu apa belum ada hukum untuk produk replika ?

[phakbola]

Wow, jasanya sudah separoh tagihan, luar biasa. Berarti kalo yang tau terima beres harus siapin 50-100jt yah buat cadangan dandanin jandanya. Thanks for the info. At least sudah ada gambaran lebih jelas sekarang kalo mau miara janda porsche.

Oh iya, waktu di central park parkirnya dimana yah? Gasruk gak?

[newrubble]

porsche spt juga ferrari itu brands bener .. yg hargai humanskill , workmanship in correct proportion dg parts value

memang salah 1 cara awal u hilangkan social gap n increase public prosperity itu adalah dg hargai jasa manusia dg benar

masa punya mobil bgini tapi masih tollerant dg human slavery ... thn 2010 sy tau ferrari jkt charge labor per hour rp.1,000,000

kalo skrg porsche authorized workshop jakarta charge per hour rp.900,000 u service renderred by certified mechanic itu kirakira € 60.5... minimum wage di jerman itu (unskilled manual migrant labor) per hour € 8.5 atau € 1,475 per month

porsche labor unionship ada policy bhw smua workers diperlakukan lbh kurang sama.dimanapun dia brada ... ferrari labor union juga bgitu

[ripratama]

Wow, jasanya sudah separoh tagihan, luar biasa. Berarti kalo yang tau terima beres harus siapin 50-100jt yah buat cadangan dandanin jandanya. Thanks for the info. At least sudah ada gambaran lebih jelas sekarang kalo mau miara janda porsche.

Oh iya, waktu di central park parkirnya dimana yah? Gasruk gak?

Boxster belum pernah gasruk dan semoga tidak akan pernah gasruk, Om

[ripratama]

One Week to Chinese New Year: persiapan mudik, testing


Ahhh, weekend lalu berlangsung luar biasa. Walaupun matahari pelit sekali munculnya dan hujan terus-menerus, the Red Queen lulus ujian "daily commute test" alias pemakaian sehari-hari.

Minggu pagi: spooring ke Saputra Ban dekat rumah. Keluhan di gagang setir yang harus dikoreksi dari miring kanan supaya center.



Cek Nitrogen juga dan ternyata kondisi overpressure. Kondisi aktual 39 psi rata sementara setting yang benar 29 psi depan, 36 psi belakang. Setelah di-bleed sesuai anjuran pabrik, sekarang jauh lebih comfort.

Mumpung cuaca masih memungkinkan, photo session dulu deh:





Rute Minggu siang-sore-malam: Alam Sutera - Central Park - Kebon Jeruk - Alam Sutera. FC sementara di 17 ltr / 100 km; almost 1:6 actually. Not too bad. AC masih memadai dinginnya walaupun tidak sampai menusuk tulang. Stereo bener2x bikin jengkel; ganti speaker: coming soon. Bebas dari gesruk.

All is good throughout the day. Weekend ini akan saya bawa ke Bandung utk long trip test-drive dan kumpul2x dgn sanak famili.


Satu lagi DIY di minggu ini yaitu perbaikan remote kunci...

Keluhannya, micro switch sudah berumur dan cenderung tidak berfungsi atau copot. Micro switch bisa dibeli di salah satu shopping website. Dapat murah, sekitar 75 rb untuk 3 switch. Cuma sepersekian dibandingkan 6 juta rupiah yang akan dicharge dealer untuk kunci pengganti.

Tools yg diperlukan: tang jepit, solder, kesabaran tingkat tinggi




Berhubung sudah lama sekali sejak menyolder sesuatu, harap maklum kalau hasilnya acakadut (untung fungsinya kembali normal seperti semula )


Salam

[POS VETT]

Ahem...thanks pencerahannya Om Vett. Btw ternak Om Vett kan banyak tuh... semua maintain di authorized dealer Om?
Enaknya disana, banyak alternatif specialist yg jago dengan rate lebih wallet-friendly ya? Spare parts juga mudah dan cepat.

Wah, bisa bangkrut gw kalo sedikit2 ke dealer walaupun stable sekarang cuma empat ekor, dulu enam biji. Mobil bawa ke dealer kalau ada recall, masih di dalam masa garansi, atau kepepet alias gak bisa dikerjain sendiri. Gw sampai punya lift sendiri di dalam garasi yang fungsi utamanya tempat parkir tapi juga bisa dipakai buat ganti oli, ganti knalpot, dan pekerjaan kecil2 lainnya.

Saya seneng ngulik Om. Yang bisa dikerjakan sendiri ya dikerjakan sendiri. Ongkos manhour 5 jam sudah kebeli 1 set tools entry level (floor jack, stand, torque wrench, oil gun, socket, hex tool, dll). Service manual bisa dibeli. Apalagi jaman internet sekarang, apa aja bisa dipelajari di forum or youtube.

Betul. Belajar lewat internet memang bagus. Ada teman yang punya akses ke All Data, jadi kadang2 minta tolong dia juga buat cari prosedur2 perbaikan. Ngulik itu memang asyik kalau tipenya modifikasi, kalau tipenya perbaikan gw rada males, hahaha.

[farizfsa]

audionya jelek karena umur apa emg jelek om?

kalo ganti jgn nanggung2 om, gausah yg terlalu mahal juga tp kaya flux, helix, dynaudio dsb saya rasa cukup buat space sekecil itu

[ripratama]

audionya jelek karena umur apa emg jelek om?

kalo ganti jgn nanggung2 om, gausah yg terlalu mahal juga tp kaya flux, helix, dynaudio dsb saya rasa cukup buat space sekecil itu

Pertama, konfigurasi base model hanya 2 speaker 4" di dashboard. Tidak ada door speaker, rear speaker, sub, power terpisah.
Kedua, faktor umur ... karet busa surround hampir pasti sudah jebol. Akan saya coba buka dan lihat.
Ketiga, speaker standar pabrik memang jarang yang bisa diharapkan.

Pengen ganti yg biasa saja, Alpine / JBL / Infinity coaxial 2-way. Hanya utk putar CD atau denger radio dan kuping saya kuping awam