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Tidak hanya toyota, bahkan honda dan mazda pun juga melakukan pemalsuan data :mky_07:

Hal begini malah membuka topeng wajah kondisi otomotif jepang yang desperate ga sih, dari yang dulu sebagai teladan/panutan bagi pabrikan dari korea/china/eropa/us,
Sekarang malah menjadi bahan sorotan tajam apalagi skandal DNGA, suzuki, mitsubishi juga masih belom hilang dari ingatan :big_think:

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wah mobil oe kena :big_biglaugh:

https://newsroom.mazda.com/en/publicity ... 0603a.html

untung mesin, coba klo sasis. :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

ya klo ud semuanya berarti ud masalah kultur disono jg kan, ud pressure tinggi struktur jg rigid

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ariswp wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:25 Tidak hanya toyota, bahkan honda dan mazda pun juga melakukan pemalsuan data :mky_07:

Hal begini malah membuka topeng wajah kondisi otomotif jepang yang desperate ga sih, dari yang dulu sebagai teladan/panutan bagi pabrikan dari korea/china/eropa/us,
Sekarang malah menjadi bahan sorotan tajam apalagi skandal DNGA, suzuki, mitsubishi juga masih belom hilang dari ingatan :big_think:

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east- ... al-deepens
balik lagi pemerintahnya juga makin ngadi2x gak jelas imbasnya liat aja mobil sekarang elek2x :big_weee:
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Bentar lagi keluar berita di Indo: "Produksi dan penjualan brand 'X' tetap jalan, tidak terpengaruh issue recall di Jepang", pendapat pejabat A: "Itu issue di Jepang, kami pastikan seluruh lini produksi lokal sudah sesuai regulasi"
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jerman rame rame kena dieselgate
jepang rame rame safety scandal
tar korea apa... china apa... ada aja pasti lah.

udah lah paling bener beli mobil tua aja dulu pan emg blom ada banyak regulasi aneh aneh :upss:
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peterming77 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:32 Bentar lagi keluar berita di Indo: "Produksi dan penjualan brand 'X' tetap jalan, tidak terpengaruh issue recall di Jepang", pendapat pejabat A: "Itu issue di Jepang, kami pastikan seluruh lini produksi lokal sudah sesuai regulasi"
balik lagi kalo mereka orang yang concern ama isu2x kek gitu ASTRA ud bangkrut 10 tahun lalu :big_dunno:

nope gak bakalan ngaruh mereka nyari kaki yang bisa diandelin tiap hari dan always works

buat apa mobil full gimmick dan safety tapi sekali rusak bisa ngejogrok dan susah nyari komponen dan benerinnya :big_dunno:
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Nihon ini serakah,dah cuan gede
Kualitas masih juga diturunin,curangin tes pula
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ChZ wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:57 jerman rame rame kena dieselgate
jepang rame rame safety scandal
tar korea apa... china apa... ada aja pasti lah.

udah lah paling bener beli mobil tua aja dulu pan emg blom ada banyak regulasi aneh aneh :upss:
kalo geng winnie flu sih aman om, pasti dikekep abis mo ada skandal juga. Macam si omoda kasus d Malaysia jg ga ampe d blow up media press relase sana sini kan. Cuman lgsg ad recall aja diem2. Kalo geng daeguk warrior ntahlah, so far TD mobilnya aja ga convinced. Temen ad yg beli mobil back to the future, 6 bulan ktnya kecewa trouble melulu :big_dunno:
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Jenson wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:46
kalo geng winnie flu sih aman om, pasti dikekep abis mo ada skandal juga. Macam si omoda kasus d Malaysia jg ga ampe d blow up media press relase sana sini kan. Cuman lgsg ad recall aja diem2. Kalo geng daeguk warrior ntahlah, so far TD mobilnya aja ga convinced. Temen ad yg beli mobil back to the future, 6 bulan ktnya kecewa trouble melulu :big_dunno:
trobel kenapa tuh um

tp klo diliat liat kyk gacha gitu, klo bagus ya bagus, klo gak ya trobel banyak :big_biglaugh:
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peterming77 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:32 Bentar lagi keluar berita di Indo: "Produksi dan penjualan brand 'X' tetap jalan, tidak terpengaruh issue recall di Jepang", pendapat pejabat A: "Itu issue di Jepang, kami pastikan seluruh lini produksi lokal sudah sesuai regulasi"
iya om, pabrikan tinggal bilang, proses manufacturing kami ini melibatkan ratusan ribu pekerja, anda tentu tidak mau ini mempengaruhi kestabilan ekonomi mereka dan keluarga yang ditanggungnya khan.
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Dari negara matahari terbit segera menjadi matahari terbenam. Ngenes
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Jenson wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:46
kalo geng winnie flu sih aman om, pasti dikekep abis mo ada skandal juga. Macam si omoda kasus d Malaysia jg ga ampe d blow up media press relase sana sini kan. Cuman lgsg ad recall aja diem2. Kalo geng daeguk warrior ntahlah, so far TD mobilnya aja ga convinced. Temen ad yg beli mobil back to the future, 6 bulan ktnya kecewa trouble melulu :big_dunno:
berarti berlaku logika sebaliknya

kalau nippon yang standar moral dan etik bisnisnya tinggi saja gini apalagi yang lain...

either diberitakan atau tidak. namanya zaman post truth :mky_03:
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trobel kenapa tuh um

tp klo diliat liat kyk gacha gitu, klo bagus ya bagus, klo gak ya trobel banyak :big_biglaugh:
yang males dari beli mobil2 canggih sekarang itu.... kalopun trobel kita habis waktu dan wang banyak.

mobil tua habis wang tapi gak habis waktu banyak montirnya udah pada pinter bisa nanganin. part beli di tokoijo, slow moving tinggal ngampak no inden inden club.

ini mobil kita jadi percobaan anak STM. kabeng nya aja belom tentu paham. part aja musti inden. ini kok kesannya lebih dibudakin mobil :big_bored:
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ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:39
mobil tua habis wang tapi gak habis waktu banyak montirnya udah pada pinter bisa nanganin. part beli di tokoijo, slow moving tinggal ngampak no inden inden club.

ini mobil kita jadi percobaan anak STM. kabeng nya aja belom tentu paham. part aja musti inden. ini kok kesannya lebih dibudakin mobil :big_bored:
klopun ga ngampak masi ada 555 :big_biglaugh:

itu kabeng gak paham, soalnya yg ud master pada buka bengkel sendiri :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:44
Jenson wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:46
kalo geng winnie flu sih aman om, pasti dikekep abis mo ada skandal juga. Macam si omoda kasus d Malaysia jg ga ampe d blow up media press relase sana sini kan. Cuman lgsg ad recall aja diem2. Kalo geng daeguk warrior ntahlah, so far TD mobilnya aja ga convinced. Temen ad yg beli mobil back to the future, 6 bulan ktnya kecewa trouble melulu :big_dunno:
trobel kenapa tuh um

tp klo diliat liat kyk gacha gitu, klo bagus ya bagus, klo gak ya trobel banyak :big_biglaugh:
kata dia software2nya punya dia suka error, either ga nyala lah layar, tba2 AC jadi panas, ktnya tiap bawa ke bengkel utak atik software terus
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Michaelktp wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:08 Dari negara matahari terbit segera menjadi matahari terbenam. Ngenes
Kemarin ini main ke dealer ahond pas ambil BPKB, ktnya sih serem, mobil seret banget pada ga kejual :big_think: Accord lama masih nyisa banyak, CRV Hybrid Nik 23 jga (yg ini, dlu padahal jual mahal, blg inden setengah taun :mky_07: )
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Jenson wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:50
Kemarin ini main ke dealer ahond pas ambil BPKB, ktnya sih serem, mobil seret banget pada ga kejual :big_think: Accord lama masih nyisa banyak, CRV Hybrid Nik 23 jga (yg ini, dlu padahal jual mahal, blg inden setengah taun :mky_07: )
accord lama mobil ampir 1m mesin kurcaci siape yang mau :big_dunno:

crv hybrid ya laku diawal doank abis itu pada beli turbo bonus 2 bangku lagi siapa yang mau mobil beban keluarga ???? :big_dunno:
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ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:39
Jenson wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:46
kalo geng winnie flu sih aman om, pasti dikekep abis mo ada skandal juga. Macam si omoda kasus d Malaysia jg ga ampe d blow up media press relase sana sini kan. Cuman lgsg ad recall aja diem2. Kalo geng daeguk warrior ntahlah, so far TD mobilnya aja ga convinced. Temen ad yg beli mobil back to the future, 6 bulan ktnya kecewa trouble melulu :big_dunno:
berarti berlaku logika sebaliknya

kalau nippon yang standar moral dan etik bisnisnya tinggi saja gini apalagi yang lain...

either diberitakan atau tidak. namanya zaman post truth :mky_03:
darrelund wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:44
trobel kenapa tuh um

tp klo diliat liat kyk gacha gitu, klo bagus ya bagus, klo gak ya trobel banyak :big_biglaugh:
yang males dari beli mobil2 canggih sekarang itu.... kalopun trobel kita habis waktu dan wang banyak.

mobil tua habis wang tapi gak habis waktu banyak montirnya udah pada pinter bisa nanganin. part beli di tokoijo, slow moving tinggal ngampak no inden inden club.

ini mobil kita jadi percobaan anak STM. kabeng nya aja belom tentu paham. part aja musti inden. ini kok kesannya lebih dibudakin mobil :big_bored:
noh kayak kasus cherry kena water hammer 5 bulan gak kelar2x :mky_07:

yang bikin miris kerjaan bengkel resmi yang toolsnya proper

lah pajero saya overhaul dikerjain solo ya ada lah di bantu2x dikit pas bagian yang berat2x kek angkat mesin dll sebulan kelar jalan greng beres........ :mky_03:

modal dongkrak buaya sama katrol itu padahal :mky_03:

mobil winnie mah gacha di china banyak defect yang gak wajar kok :big_biglaugh:

mau perusahaannya bener tapi inget itu china loh vendor2xnya belom tentu beres apalagi sekarang maenannya kejar setoran pasti banyak vendor nakal lolos QC :wkkk:
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Jenson wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:50
Michaelktp wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:08 Dari negara matahari terbit segera menjadi matahari terbenam. Ngenes
Kemarin ini main ke dealer ahond pas ambil BPKB, ktnya sih serem, mobil seret banget pada ga kejual :big_think: Accord lama masih nyisa banyak, CRV Hybrid Nik 23 jga (yg ini, dlu padahal jual mahal, blg inden setengah taun :mky_07: )
CRV Hybrid NIK 23 diskon brp skrg ya?
b0ku wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:18 crv hybrid ya laku diawal doank abis itu pada beli turbo bonus 2 bangku lagi siapa yang mau mobil beban keluarga ???? :big_dunno:
suprisingly saya sekalinya ketemu CRV gen-6 malah yang turbo biasa, bukan yg hybrid
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AbdulHakim wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:21 suprisingly saya sekalinya ketemu CRV gen-6 malah yang turbo biasa, bukan yg hybrid
disini si sering liat om cuma gak peratiin yang mana terakhir liat ada emblem RS artinya hybrid lucu juga HYBRID di kasih emblem RS padahal gak ade sporty2xnya :mky_07:

takometer aja gak punya gimane mau sporty :wkkk:

gak pernah nyari tau sih jualannya kencengan mana ya kalo dari teori sotoy saya hybrid selalu laku di mas2x hype ntar ud biasa lama2x lebih kenceng versi yang non hybrid :mky_03:
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Beli mopang uda pd overpriced, suka ngibulin data lg.
Beli mocin takut meleduk trus dihujat netijen.
Beli koreya harganya beti ma jepang.
Beli eropa baru ga ada duitnya.
Beli eropa bekas sebelum beli uda ditakut2in ini itu mahal.
Beli jepang bekas lebih susah nyari partnya nanti drpd eropa kalo uda tua, blm lg resiko bekas narik online.

Punya duit bingung, apalagi ga punya duit :big_biglaugh:
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kendibocor wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:48 Beli mopang uda pd overpriced, suka ngibulin data lg.
Beli mocin takut meleduk trus dihujat netijen.
Beli koreya harganya beti ma jepang.
Beli eropa baru ga ada duitnya.
Beli eropa bekas sebelum beli uda ditakut2in ini itu mahal.
Beli jepang bekas lebih susah nyari partnya nanti drpd eropa kalo uda tua, blm lg resiko bekas narik online.

Punya duit bingung, apalagi ga punya duit :big_biglaugh:
makanya naik whoosh

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Jenson wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:48
kata dia software2nya punya dia suka error, either ga nyala lah layar, tba2 AC jadi panas, ktnya tiap bawa ke bengkel utak atik software terus
masihan tu sofwer trobel?

dahal dulu sempet rame tuh

liat di ig

mau jalan"

eh putbal ke diler

di diler bilangnya semua ok, padahal error :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:51
kendibocor wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:48 Beli mopang uda pd overpriced, suka ngibulin data lg.
Beli mocin takut meleduk trus dihujat netijen.
Beli koreya harganya beti ma jepang.
Beli eropa baru ga ada duitnya.
Beli eropa bekas sebelum beli uda ditakut2in ini itu mahal.
Beli jepang bekas lebih susah nyari partnya nanti drpd eropa kalo uda tua, blm lg resiko bekas narik online.

Punya duit bingung, apalagi ga punya duit :big_biglaugh:
makanya naik whoosh

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kendibocor wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:48 Beli mopang uda pd overpriced, suka ngibulin data lg.
Beli mocin takut meleduk trus dihujat netijen.
Beli koreya harganya beti ma jepang.
Beli eropa baru ga ada duitnya.
Beli eropa bekas sebelum beli uda ditakut2in ini itu mahal.
Beli jepang bekas lebih susah nyari partnya nanti drpd eropa kalo uda tua, blm lg resiko bekas narik online.

Punya duit bingung, apalagi ga punya duit :big_biglaugh:
ya om sebenernya majority cuma nyari mobil yang always works jd mopang mau busuk gimane juga tetep aja orang bakalan milih yang itu, kalo concern sama safety regulasi dan tetek bengek gak jelas laen oe jamin itu mopang ud pada gulung tiker 10-20taon lalu terutama triple elips yang mobilnya sbenernya kagak ada enak2xnya dan suka nyunat chasis :wkkk:
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Jenson wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:50
Michaelktp wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:08 Dari negara matahari terbit segera menjadi matahari terbenam. Ngenes
Kemarin ini main ke dealer ahond pas ambil BPKB, ktnya sih serem, mobil seret banget pada ga kejual :big_think: Accord lama masih nyisa banyak, CRV Hybrid Nik 23 jga (yg ini, dlu padahal jual mahal, blg inden setengah taun :mky_07: )
Di surabaya 2 dealer besar Honda (1 grup) tutup. Padahal dua2nya sambung sama bengkel, dan gede bengkel nya. Skrg bangunan dealer nya majang Chery :big_think: .