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Entah apa yg bikin mahal :ngacir:
Ketika anda merasa lucu berarti anda tidak lucu
demikian sebaliknya kalau anda merasa tidak lucu berarti anda beneran tidak lucu
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Mahal gmn? Golf 550jt skrg...

421jt base 460 top hrsnya oke sih... dengan spek begitu...
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Kalo sy mending crv turbo..maklum masih katro..haha
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Golf cbu
civic ckd
Cmiiwwww :big_childish:
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Puffy wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:11 Golf cbu
civic ckd
Cmiiwwww :big_childish:
Golf SKD

Civic CBU Thai...
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Mgkn lbh ke arah fitur berbanding harga kali ya. Kl dr bocoran fitur civic hatchback sama aja dengan yg versi sedannya. Tp selisih harganya cuma 20 jutaan. Padahal pajak sedan dan hatchback selisih 20 % CMIIW. Berarti civic hatchback cuannya lebih gede utk HPM dibanding civic sedan. Itu kalkulasi simple ane aja hehe
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Kan namanya Premium Hatchback, harganya gaq boleh terlalu murah :mky_01:
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Yg bikin mahal ya H tegak itu hahahaha
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mobilover wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:30 Mgkn lbh ke arah fitur berbanding harga kali ya. Kl dr bocoran fitur civic hatchback sama aja dengan yg versi sedannya. Tp selisih harganya cuma 20 jutaan. Padahal pajak sedan dan hatchback selisih 20 % CMIIW. Berarti civic hatchback cuannya lebih gede utk HPM dibanding civic sedan. Itu kalkulasi simple ane aja hehe
Kalau dari selisih harga di Thailand
Civic Hatchback 1.169.000 THB = 457 juta rupiah. Di sini 460 juta.
Civic Sedan 1.5 Turbo RS 1.199.000 THB = 468 juta rupiah. Di sini 475 juta.

Sedan beda 7 juta, hatchback beda 3 juta.

Dulu jaman mpord masih jualan... Focus Hatch dan sedan jg beda 20juta-an...

Wajar-wajar aja sih... Emang mw harga brp? Masa ngarep harga se jazz... :ngacir:
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civic gen5 hatch panjangnya hanya 4m
civic 2017 hatch panjang 4,5 m

jaman makin kesini semua mobil makin melar semua
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Despite harganya terlalu mahal (menurut keuangan saya)
Civic HB bumper belakangnya overrated. Airdamnya gede bgt.

Mungkin saya yg katrok wk.
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bensinsolar wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:39 Kan namanya Premium Hatchback, harganya gaq boleh terlalu murah :mky_01:
Sebenarnya gpp kl mau harga segitu, tapi fiturnya harus ditambahin dan lbh banyak dibanding yg versi sedan. Minimal speedometernya pake yg tipe TFT dan Head Unitnya pake yg versi OEM jadi persis dgn spec Thailand. Sunatnya jonpis kejam sih, padahal mobil bisa ngebooming kl harga dan fiturnya bagus
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PRBS wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:51 Despite harganya terlalu mahal (menurut keuangan saya)
Civic HB bumper belakangnya overrated. Airdamnya gede bgt.

Mungkin saya yg katrok wk.
Krn mengacu pada Type-R om...

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Nongolnya di TA nih, mau ngintip ah besok2

Tapi kalo gw boleh milih sih meningan nambah dikit dapet F30 second deh, kalo mau ngomong gengsi meningan yang gengsinya udah ketauan aj hhehehe
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mobilover wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:53
bensinsolar wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:39 Kan namanya Premium Hatchback, harganya gaq boleh terlalu murah :mky_01:
Sebenarnya gpp kl mau harga segitu, tapi fiturnya harus ditambahin dan lbh banyak dibanding yg versi sedan. Minimal speedometernya pake yg tipe TFT dan Head Unitnya pake yg versi OEM jadi persis dgn spec Thailand. Sunatnya jonpis kejam sih, padahal mobil bisa ngebooming kl harga dan fiturnya bagus
Setuju Om setidaknya yg versi tertinggi ud dapet Thai Specs (min TFT aja)
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ChZ wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:45
mobilover wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:30 Mgkn lbh ke arah fitur berbanding harga kali ya. Kl dr bocoran fitur civic hatchback sama aja dengan yg versi sedannya. Tp selisih harganya cuma 20 jutaan. Padahal pajak sedan dan hatchback selisih 20 % CMIIW. Berarti civic hatchback cuannya lebih gede utk HPM dibanding civic sedan. Itu kalkulasi simple ane aja hehe
Kalau dari selisih harga di Thailand
Civic Hatchback 1.169.000 THB = 457 juta rupiah. Di sini 460 juta.
Civic Sedan 1.5 Turbo RS 1.199.000 THB = 468 juta rupiah. Di sini 475 juta.

Sedan beda 7 juta, hatchback beda 3 juta.

Dulu jaman mpord masih jualan... Focus Hatch dan sedan jg beda 20juta-an...

Wajar-wajar aja sih... Emang mw harga brp? Masa ngarep harga se jazz... :ngacir:
Yup PpnBM (pajak penjualan barang mewah) untuk sedan 30%, dan hatchback masuk kategori mpv pajak nya PpnBM 10%.
yang kita ga tau di thailand skema perpajakannya, apakah malah lebih tinggi hatchback.

Sekarang tinggal nunggu mazda 3 aja masuk ke indonesia, berapa disini di jual nya.
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mantaff, agresif banget tampak luar nya
mulai bosen jg liat hatcback2 kecil macam jazz, yaris, m2 trus slama ini :big_grin: :big_grin:

hando akan memulai trend hatchback besar plus turbo :big_exellent: :big_exellent:
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iwansiagian wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:05
Yup PpnBM (pajak penjualan barang mewah) untuk sedan 30%, dan hatchback masuk kategori mpv pajak nya PpnBM 10%.
yang kita ga tau di thailand skema perpajakannya, apakah malah lebih tinggi hatchback.

Sekarang tinggal nunggu mazda 3 aja masuk ke indonesia, berapa disini di jual nya.
Harga OTR yang dipasarkan kan sebenarnya sudah kena BBN, jadi tinggal harga di faktur nya berapa... sulit judging dari harga OTR saja... margin gede y bisa jadi karena setau sya untuk civic skrg honda stocknya gak banyak. Blom ngitung diskon juga kan

Di thai cuma dibedain passenger cars dan non-passenger... Honda Jazz ma City aja sama harganya.
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Hybrid, fuel cell and electric vehicles: 10% (11.2%)
Cars < 1300cc gasoline powered, approved under the eco-car program: 17% (20.9%)
Cars powered by motorcycles engines < 250cc: 5% (5.3%)
Cars powered by NGV: 20% (25.6%)
E20 Compatible Cars < 2000cc and < 220HP: 25% (34.5%)
E20 Compatible Cars < 2500cc and < 220HP: 30% (44.8%)
E20 Compatible Cars < 3000cc and < 220HP: 35% (56.9%)
E20 Compatible Cars > 3000cc OR >= 220HP: 50% (111.1%)
Other Cars < 2000cc and < 220HP: 30% (44.8%)
Other Cars < 2500cc and < 220HP: 35% (56.9%)
Other Cars < 3000cc and < 220HP: 40% (71.4%)
Other Cars > 3000cc OR >= 220HP: 50% (111.1%)
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Paparin harga otr competitor ni HB dong..
Cakep euih...sec susah/ngga banyak HB car model yg bentuknya msh proporsional n good looking dilihat.

Tambahin List otr hrg di class ini...
Civic HB
Mazda 3
Golf Tsi
BMW 116i
Merc A200
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Yaa harganya emang segitu sih "wajarnya"
Focus HB 1.5 ecoboost aja (dulu pernah saya buat thread nya) terakhir di 440 jt
Itu tahun 2015 silam (pertengahan semester 2 kalo ga salah)

Bicara desain ga masuk selera saya sih. Terlalu vulgar
Lebih seneng yang simpel aja kayak Golf :D
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jivos wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:29 Paparin harga otr competitor ni HB dong..
Cakep euih...sec susah/ngga banyak HB car model yg bentuknya msh proporsional n good looking dilihat.

Tambahin List otr hrg di class ini...
Civic HB
Mazda 3
Golf Tsi
BMW 116i
Merc A200
Mazda 3 kan belum dimasukan resmi kesini om jivos
Kalo Focus Ecoboost 1.5 turbo terakhir di 440 jt (1.5 tahun silam)
BMW, Merc dan Golf kayaknya sudah 550 jt keatas deh cmiiw
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Untuk pemilik jazz yg mau naek kelas
Atau anak babeh yg kuliah yg ngerasa jazz pasaran
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Mamang555 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:32
jivos wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:29 Paparin harga otr competitor ni HB dong..
Cakep euih...sec susah/ngga banyak HB car model yg bentuknya msh proporsional n good looking dilihat.

Tambahin List otr hrg di class ini...
Civic HB
Mazda 3
Golf Tsi
BMW 116i
Merc A200
Mazda 3 kan belum dimasukan resmi kesini om jivos
Kalo Focus Ecoboost 1.5 turbo terakhir di 440 jt (1.5 tahun silam)
BMW, Merc dan Golf kayaknya sudah 550 jt keatas deh cmiiw
Mazda 3 via eurokars bukannya sdh masuk om..
Ahhh....iya itu ecoboost 1.5T menarik...balik pk konventional geared
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jivos wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:37
Mazda 3 via eurokars bukannya sdh masuk om..
Ahhh....iya itu ecoboost 1.5T menarik...balik pk konventional geared
Mpord pokus ekobus kalo dijual skrg juga mungkin 460an kali yahh...

Tapi non sunated version... :ngacir:
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Kl dr gosip2 yg beredar, harga mazda 3 gak bakal beda jauh sama CX-3. Berarti kisaran harganya sekitar 440-460 juta juga. Harganya bakal head to head sama civic hatchaback. Yang akan menarik itu di pertarungan fiturnya karena Mazda 3 pasti masuk yg fiturnya lengkap. Tinggal brand image vs fitur2 melimpah siapa yg lbh menjual di indonesia. Feeling ane sih ttp brand image yg menang. Tapi customer di segmen hatchback premium ini kan khusus, rata2 melek teknologi dan mau dapat yg terbaik dgn budget yg sama. We will see how market responds