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Bq report nya gimana yg ud pegang2..
Sama parah kaya gen 4 apa ada perbaikan
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makin gede aj nih...anyway lampunya gado2 ni samping mirip jazz blakang kok skilas mirip g30.
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memory seat ada nggk sih? kemarin di IIMS nggk meratiin

Trus masa wipernya nggk ada intermittent controlnya :big_think:
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daun rambutan wrote: Wed May 03, 2017 14:02 memory seat ada nggk sih? kemarin di IIMS nggk meratiin

Trus masa wipernya nggk ada intermittent controlnya :big_think:
belum ada memory seat om.. :big_smile]
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Hati2 ini mobil pake CVT.
Alphard yang CVT aja jebol.
Padahal std.
Apalagi nih mobil lebih buat tenaganya dibanding Alphard.....
Kecuali nyetirnya pelan2 sih lain cerita ....

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Koddy wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:48 Hati2 ini mobil pake CVT.
Alphard yang CVT aja jebol.
Padahal std.
Apalagi nih mobil lebih buat tenaganya dibanding Alphard.....
Kecuali nyetirnya pelan2 sih lain cerita ....

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Mang udah ada brp alpat yg jebol ? Klw cuma 1 sih defect bs aja...

Jgn lebay ah.

Mbl tenaga gede pke CVT jg banyak... Dan gak pa pa...

Subaru Impreza WRX tenaga 200hp+ jg aman aman aja pke CVT... Forester XT Turbo 238hp jg aman...
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Koddy wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:48 Hati2 ini mobil pake CVT.
Alphard yang CVT aja jebol.
Padahal std.
Apalagi nih mobil lebih buat tenaganya dibanding Alphard.....
Kecuali nyetirnya pelan2 sih lain cerita ....

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Tergantung pemakaian serta perawatan...

At least T31 teman2 sy yg cvt masih lebih bagus kondisinya drpd otomatik konvensional ANF/ANKI.. karena dirawat... yg ga dirawat ya pasti jebol...
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Dah mulai ada isu/gosip kan,,, padahal yg make aja dah nulis gmn make nya CVT


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elah cvt gak ngejamin jebol, tergantung cara make ama ngerawatnya aja

itu ada merk jepang pake cvt di turbodiesel fine2 aja tuh, most line up yg pake petrol engine juga pake cvt dan temen2 saya banyak yang udah +70rb - +100rb kilometer no problemo sama sekali tuh asal make dan rawatnya bener dan gak kasar
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Kok ada yg sensi ama CVT yah?

Semua kembali ke pemakainya.... nyetirnya pelan tp ga ngerawat mobilnya ya sama aja...
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Banyak yg merasa lebih pinter dari engineer mobil... Susah...

Pdhl MT yang katanya reliabel... Malah lbh riskan jebol kl disentak sentak... Kopling cpt mampus. Mbl manual bawanya resing ga awet juga.

Semua liat pemakaian... Perawatan... Dan modifikasi. Defective unit jg ga bisa nyalahin.


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Koddy wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:48 Hati2 ini mobil pake CVT.
Alphard yang CVT aja jebol.
Padahal std.
Apalagi nih mobil lebih buat tenaganya dibanding Alphard.....
Kecuali nyetirnya pelan2 sih lain cerita ....

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Sekalian blg aja om, boikot jangan beli semua mobil Nissan transmisi CVT....

Nissan dari Livina smpe Elgrand udah pake CVT loh.... :mky_07:

Lagian, logikanya pabrikan ga mungkin ngasih CVT kalo ga dirancang sedemikian rupa biar tahan sesuai pemakaian Indonesia deh...
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Y udah brarti jangan beli ANF ANKI ya... Putuan dan jedug kan... Hahaha...

Konven AT loh itu bukan CVT.

Civic FC1 pake berbichip masih aman koq tranny nya... Pdhl batch awal LOL. Belinya aja wkt beli blm tau spek.

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Koddy wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:48 Hati2 ini mobil pake CVT.
Alphard yang CVT aja jebol.
Padahal std.
Apalagi nih mobil lebih buat tenaganya dibanding Alphard.....
Kecuali nyetirnya pelan2 sih lain cerita ....

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Nah ini mulai generalisasi seluruh CVT...
gw mantan pemakai City 2007 CVT setelah 10 tahun ga jebol2 tuh... wkwkwk...
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Bukan generalisasi CVT jelek. Cuma bilang hati-hati.
Untuk pemakaian yang suka shifting sih CVT kalah kuat dibanding matic konvensional.
Untuk yang pasrahin ke D, plus cuma injek gas doank pedal to carpet sih, emang gak akan mudah jebol.
Pertanyaannya balik lagi emang, ke driving style kita.
Kalau hobi mainin "manual mode" nya pake paddle shift, gak akan kuat CVT.


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wahh pemakaian pedal to carpet... mending manual aj... ganti kupleeng resing spek... asal jangan komplen kl dengkul mendadak keram mulu...

kl AT konvensional jg bukan jaminan kuat... belum lama waktu maen ke aussie, homestay ane punya golf MK4 AT jadul, odo baru 120an rebu aj ud nyendal2 mulu jalannnya.. scara doi kl start lampu merah aj bejeg rpm ampe 4000..
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Koddy wrote:Bukan generalisasi CVT jelek. Cuma bilang hati-hati.
Untuk pemakaian yang suka shifting sih CVT kalah kuat dibanding matic konvensional.
Untuk yang pasrahin ke D, plus cuma injek gas doank pedal to carpet sih, emang gak akan mudah jebol.
Pertanyaannya balik lagi emang, ke driving style kita.
Kalau hobi mainin "manual mode" nya pake paddle shift, gak akan kuat CVT.


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Blom pernah liat matik konvensional jebol? Hahahaha...

Pernah nyetir Mercy S500 2002 matik nya jedug... Hehehe... Mercy loh... Bukan jepangan murah. Odo baru 70k.

Honda Odyssey 2001 overhaul matic ada jg... Haha... Pdhl orangnya ngerawat

Lah gimana si itu ada bukti jelas 6 speed at baru udah jedug... CVT honda yg baru2 justru gak ada kendala aneh aneh...

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ChZ wrote:
Koddy wrote:Bukan generalisasi CVT jelek. Cuma bilang hati-hati.
Untuk pemakaian yang suka shifting sih CVT kalah kuat dibanding matic konvensional.
Untuk yang pasrahin ke D, plus cuma injek gas doank pedal to carpet sih, emang gak akan mudah jebol.
Pertanyaannya balik lagi emang, ke driving style kita.
Kalau hobi mainin "manual mode" nya pake paddle shift, gak akan kuat CVT.


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Pernah nyetir Mercy S500 2002 matik nya jedug... Hehehe... Mercy loh... Bukan jepangan murah. Odo baru 70k.

Honda Odyssey 2001 overhaul matic ada jg... Haha... Pdhl orangnya ngerawat

Lah gimana si itu ada bukti jelas 6 speed at baru udah jedug... CVT honda yg baru2 justru gak ada kendala aneh aneh...

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Kalau ngomong diruntut mundur, sekalian aja, kenapa ga bilang kalau Jazz i-dsi yang pada jebol CVT nya?
Susah memang kalau fansboy nya beraksi, yang Honda selalu dibilang bagus......

Matic AC60E jedug.... tapi matic yang sama dipake di MU-X di Thailand dan bebas jedug. Suspect berarti settingan ECU nya yang ga beres sehingga bikin jedug.

Sebagai user Honda dan user Toyota, saya malah bahagia kalau ada user yang menunjukkan kelemahan tiap2 model. Kita di forum cari solusi, bukan cuma fansboy yang mau ambil positifnya doank, sisi negatifnya dianggap ga ada.
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ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:12
Mang udah ada brp alpat yg jebol ? Klw cuma 1 sih defect bs aja...

Jgn lebay ah.

Mbl tenaga gede pke CVT jg banyak... Dan gak pa pa...

Subaru Impreza WRX tenaga 200hp+ jg aman aman aja pke CVT... Forester XT Turbo 238hp jg aman...
yg defext bukan CVT nya tuh. tp yg defect kaki kanannya yg nyopir. :wkkk:
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Koddy wrote: Kalau ngomong diruntut mundur, sekalian aja, kenapa ga bilang kalau Jazz i-dsi yang pada jebol CVT nya?
Susah memang kalau fansboy nya beraksi, yang Honda selalu dibilang bagus......

Matic AC60E jedug.... tapi matic yang sama dipake di MU-X di Thailand dan bebas jedug. Suspect berarti settingan ECU nya yang ga beres sehingga bikin jedug.

Sebagai user Honda dan user Toyota, saya malah bahagia kalau ada user yang menunjukkan kelemahan tiap2 model. Kita di forum cari solusi, bukan cuma fansboy yang mau ambil positifnya doank, sisi negatifnya dianggap ga ada.
Loh gw cm bilang kenyataan aja, koq langsung nuduh fansboy?

Subaru CVT koq gw bilangnya jg kuat... G cm bilang CVT honda ajah. Subaru WRX tenaganya 200hp ke atas dan gpp tuh CVTnya...

CVT honda d jaman idsi ma odyss RB mang defect koq... Dan jaman itu orang blm kenal tech CVT. Jd asal dirawat nya makin ancur deh... skrg CVTnya honda uda pake torcon... Aman hrsnya... Hrsnya...

Gw cm ngomong AT konvensional, even MT jg ga jaminan awet klw pakenya ngawur...

Jgn kek forum sebelah ah ga sependapat dikit ngomong nya fanboy merek A B C... Pendapat anda terlalu one-sided... Haha... anda klw suka main ke bengkel banyak koq AT yang jebol karena pemakaian... :big_blushing:

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@ chz

mods, mengenai cvt ahond yg skrg versi plus torque converter... itu gmana sehh cara kerja nya... bukannya cvt itu merely belt ama 2 variable pulley yahh..lah tuh torcon jd buat apa
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Metik 4 spid di mbl yg terkenal plg reliable aja dipake kasar jadi ga enak ama temen gw biarpun,jadi suka slip biarpun udah kuras ATF.
Kalo pemakaian kasar mah semua jenis transmisi juga jebol.
Kalo pake mbl terlalu takutan/hati2 mending mobilnya jadiin die cast aja,kan lumayan ada pajangan die cast 1:1
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DOHC wrote:@ chz

mods, mengenai cvt ahond yg skrg versi plus torque converter... itu gmana sehh cara kerja nya... bukannya cvt itu merely belt ama 2 variable pulley yahh..lah tuh torcon jd buat apa
CVT skrg rata rata uda torcon oom klep...

Kerjanya mirip ma torcon di AT biasa hrsnya... Nanti uwe gugling lg kurang paham jg mbah. Maklum uwe kan cm sarjana teknik sotoy... :ngacir:

Oiya ngomong ac60e "jedug" rsnya dlu om turbo pernah post deh d filipin jg jedug... Om turbo mana ya... defect design valvebody...

Xtronic first gen jg defective... Tp namanya teknologi klw ga ada defect ga belajar... Harusnya xtronic jaman skrg lebih reliable.

K depan mobil jepang jg akan 80% pake CVT ... jd gimana nih jgn dibeli aja?

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Koddy wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:20 Bukan generalisasi CVT jelek. Cuma bilang hati-hati.
Untuk pemakaian yang suka shifting sih CVT kalah kuat dibanding matic konvensional.
Untuk yang pasrahin ke D, plus cuma injek gas doank pedal to carpet sih, emang gak akan mudah jebol.
Pertanyaannya balik lagi emang, ke driving style kita.
Kalau hobi mainin "manual mode" nya pake paddle shift, gak akan kuat CVT.


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Shifting manual di cvt piye om... kan ndak ada giginya :mky_07:

Dimainin manual modenya juga gak ngaruh, cobain aja sendiri.. ttp aja nguuuuunnnnggggg.... :big_biglaugh:
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mr_mytplx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 14:03
ChZ wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:12
Mang udah ada brp alpat yg jebol ? Klw cuma 1 sih defect bs aja...

Jgn lebay ah.

Mbl tenaga gede pke CVT jg banyak... Dan gak pa pa...

Subaru Impreza WRX tenaga 200hp+ jg aman aman aja pke CVT... Forester XT Turbo 238hp jg aman...
yg defext bukan CVT nya tuh. tp yg defect kaki kanannya yg nyopir. :wkkk:
Nah iya, sekarang uwe heran ma beberapa orang pengalaman satu orang doang terus generalisir berarti mobil A gak reliable / defect...

Kalau kasus kayak kaki-kaki HR-V atau putu jedug yang nyaris semua orang ngalamin... itu baru boleh ambil kesimpulan... Krn yang ngalamin nyaris semua. Uwe juga barusan ngalamin di HR-V Prestige kemarin pake kena paving gak rata langsung glutak glutuk...

AC di Civic Turbo defect jg beberapa unit tapi gak semua... Komunitasnya ngakuin juga bilang ACnya defect beberapa unit. Tapi unit yang uwe coba di video itu gak kena defect... Apa klw uwe gak ngalamin terus Civic Turbo gw blg mobil bebas masalah... kan engga jg.

Skrg yang jebol dibanding yang aman statistik berapa banyak... kalo mau menilai sih pake data... klw dari pengalaman satu orang aja y susah... Itu Alphard ma Vellfire AGH30 di jalanan kok masih pada berkeliaran... Kalo CVTnya segitu parah gak reliable berarti bengkel toyota g cm dipenuhi ANF ANKI yang claim putu jedug... Alphard juga harusnya... kecuali usernya gak aware (krn yang pake supirnya)...

Mau CVT, mau AT, mau MT, atau DSG, kena rev limiter terus gaya nyetirnya ya pasti rontok... Sampe rev limiter berarti kan high load... high load = temperatur ATF tinggi... diterusin? Rontok lah. Apalagi CVT yang notabene selalu nahan di rev limiter... Kalo nyetirnya suka hajar rev limiter, ATFnya ganti spec yang tahan temperatur tinggi a.k.a overspec... jgn pake ATF/CVTF pabrikan... kan mereka asumsi elu nyetir normal... atw pake additive macem XADO...
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