FT-86 II, is it the "New Celica" ?

[asudarsono]

Sebetulnya mau ngecek kita dikasih oli apa khan gampang. Tapi kalau udah yakin bagus, ya gak saya kasih tahu.

[AD74YA]

Ya sudah BTT kalau gitu ke FT-86..

Mengenai konsep FT "Roadster" berapa perbedaan berat dan ke-kakuan sasis nya dibandingkan dengan versi Coupe?

[FortunerMan]

Sebetulnya mau ngecek kita dikasih oli apa khan gampang. Tapi kalau udah yakin bagus, ya gak saya kasih tahu.

Yg saya yakin anda asbun

[FortunerMan]

Ngawur lagiii ngawur lagiiii...

TAM bisa handle dari mobil sederhana Avanza sampe Camry Hybrid sampe Landcruiser...Gak bakalan oli abal2 dimasukin ke barang dagangannya - dan gak mungkin asal pasang busi.

YA ini udah paling bener... Mereka sudah ada database oli nya sendiri, dan gak sembarangan ambil oli loh..

asu darsono = asbun

[FortunerMan]

Betul juga, om Maxx. Bengkel Toyota khan bagus2.

Servis di Subaru juga ada untungnya, om. Pertama, mereka udah biasa pegang mesin boxer (kalau sembarang beres, ntar cari busi jangan sampai binun). Kedua, mobil kayak gini jarang servis krn jarang keluar, yg lebih sering modif. Dijamin, part modif akan banyak di sisi Subaru, krn komunitasnya kuat sekali. Di luar beres, cuma satu bengkel yg saya percaya pegang/modif mesin boxer, di Bekasi. Ketiga, peralatan di Subaru lebih lengkap dan (maaf) suku cadangnya lebih berkualitas. Silahkan, dilihat busi dan oli yang dituang di Toyota. Jangan sampai oli buat Avanza juga dituang ke FT86. Keempat, mekanik Subaru sering diajak reli tingkat Asia Pasifik. Kita tahu kiprah tim Motorimage, dengan salah satu drivernya Rifat Sungkar. Juara manufaktur terus, sampai bosen.

Kalau lihat kasus Celica, yg mesinnya cuma Corolla plus plus, dulu ada aja alasan ngeles gak terima.

Tapi saya bukan sales, mau pakai lambang Toyota atau Subaru silahkan aja. Toh yg buat juga paling satu pabrik. Ntar juga belum tentu FT86 ditolak kalau servis di Subaru.

Ngawur lagiii ngawur lagiiii...

TAM bisa handle dari mobil sederhana Avanza sampe Camry Hybrid sampe Landcruiser...Gak bakalan oli abal2 dimasukin ke barang dagangannya - dan gak mungkin asal pasang busi.

Ini mau ngibulin anak TK ya?

Avanza padahal businya busi biasa, di Camry saya disuruh kasi yg iridium. Tapi silahkan kok...flaming, asal Toyota, diperbolehkan - gak boleh dibalas

[ak4ng]

ini ngomongin apanja toh???

[y_anjasrana]

emang olinya ft86 speknya apa sih? jgn2 sama2 10w40.....

[FortunerMan]

emang olinya ft86 speknya apa sih? jgn2 sama2 10w40.....

Pokoknya ntar disamain ama Avanza. Begitu kata si asbun asu darsono

Info benernya: http://www.fr-sforum.com/forums/fr-s-ge ... ation.html

The FR-S will use Toyota Synthetic 0w20 weight engine oil with normal oil change intervals of every 7.5 months or 7500 miles

[y_anjasrana]

0w20 yah? wah.. olinya mahal tuh. klu bener kejadian salah kasih oli beneran kacau tuh. btw kenapa sih di beres umumnya pemilik ga boleh nongkrongin mobilnya yg lagi dibetulin?

[FortunerMan]

0w20 yah? wah.. olinya mahal tuh. klu bener kejadian salah kasih oli beneran kacau tuh. btw kenapa sih di beres umumnya pemilik ga boleh nongkrongin mobilnya yg lagi dibetulin?

Mobilnya aja belon sampe sini - gimana mau salah kasi oli. Itu kan sampah asu darsono aja.

Resminya mungkin tidak boleh, karena alasan safety buat pelanggan (apalagi kalo bawa anak kecil). Auto2000 yg pernah saya datengin boleh kok, Tunas juga boleh. Ford juga boleh, Mazda juga boleh, BMW pun boleh. Cuman ya kira2 lah...kalo lagi rame dan SEMUA penunggu berada di sekitar montir...ribet juga.

[asudarsono]

Di beres Toyota kita bisa keluar masuk sembarangan..... Kok liar amat????

[FortunerMan]

Di beres Toyota kita bisa keluar masuk sembarangan..... Kok liar amat????

Di beres peugeot gak boleh, soalnya montirnya pada ngeluh "aduhhhhhh dasar mobil prancis rongsokannn"...kasian kan customer denger beginian

[ammophobia]

Share review Scion FR-S (versi scion nya 86) dari forum luar negeri:

Source: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39551

Drove the Scion FRS = impressions inside
Yesterday I drove the Scion FRS manual at an event held by a local dealer.

I got to drive it for a good amount of time on a mix of city streets and highway.

Like alot of people I was really looking forward to driving it based on all the hype and generally positive reactions it's been getting.

Except for the seats / seating position and general look of the interior, I left the experience feeling rather "meh".

Before I go any further, I should put a disclaimer that I've driven just about everything (except a Veyron) and I've been lucky to have owned some nice cars --- meaning that I'm not simply comparing it to the Yaris and the MR2 which I currently drive / but rather I'm comparing it to a host of other cars.


Back to my thoughts on several areas of personal importance to me.................


-Shifter = 6/10
This is one area I was really disappointed. I found it to be precise enough for decently quick operation but it didn't give me warm fuzzies or make me want to shift up and down endlessly / I also found it to be too notchy.
Compared to the manual transmission in any K20 or B-Series powered Honda (which I rate 9.5/10) it was not even in the same league, and frankly not necessarily any more precise or smooth than either my Yaris or my MR2.
I'd put it this way.....................it felt like stirring an upside down hammer through a bucket filled with cast iron Lego pieces. Compared to some transmissions (most Hondas) which feel like the well oiled slide on a bolt action rifle.


-Ride = 6.5/10
This is another area I was disappointed. I am fully aware that it is a sports car (I get it), however its possible to tune a car for a good compromise between good handling AND compliant ride. The FRS didn't seem to be able to do both. It did seem to control its body movements well, however the impact harshness was very very high. It didn't feel much better than my Yaris which has very very very stiff coilovers and it actually was no smoother than my MR2 which has stiff-ish drop springs. Compared to other current smallish RWD offerings (ie Miata / Genesis coupe / etc...) it was ALOT harsher.


-Braking / Clutch / Steering = 8/10
The clutch felt good - it seemed to have appropriate weighting and feel for a 200hp / 150lb-ft RWD 2700LB car. The brake pedal seemed to transmit decent enough feel and it didn't seem to have too much slop or useless travel. The steering felt communicative and smooth, although at times it felt artificially too heavy (given the size and weight of the car, and the size of the tires, and the speeds and loads I was subjecting the car to)


-HVAC controls & Radio =3/10
Typical super cheap / clickety / hard plastic / [cencored] quality, Toyota parts bin HVAC stuff. Radio was a super cheesy aftermarket ish that will probably seem amazing to some 19yr/olds


-Cruise control stalk = 0/10
Really????? a tacky-add on cruise control stalk, bolted to the side of the steering wheel like an afterthought??? REALLY?????? / I don't approve of this on my $12,000 Yaris and on a $25,000 Scion FRS its just frankly embarassing.

-Power = 5/10
Exactly like the roadtests have said, its about 50hp and 75LB-ft shy of being very very entertaining.

-Overall Quality (Seats / dash material / door cards / general fit and finish) = 8/10
The seats were fantastic, super supportive and fit my 5'9" -165Lb frame just perfectly
The dash is so soft its almost rubbery
The faux carbon fibre part of the dash actually looks good in person
The entire interior is black, which although a bit sullen - seems to go well with the sporting intent of the car
The exterior fit and finish seemed to be typical high Japanese standards


Basically I thought to myself that if I won alot of money I'd buy one just as a track toy / Sunday Autocross car. But as a primary or secondary car, there are alot of others which I would potentially pick before it (not the least of which is the MR2 spyder which I have)

For the use that 95% of owners will put it through (slightly aggressive and "sporty" daily driving) , personally I'd take a Veloster turbo / Focus St / Civic Si Sedan / Genesis Coupe 2.0t etc... Especially when you consider that all of those cars absolutely SMASH the FRS as far as equipment is concerned (NAV / Heated seats / Full bluetooth / Sunroof / etc...)

I guess the FANBOI's haven't recruited another member.

Will

[y_anjasrana]

Di beres Toyota kita bisa keluar masuk sembarangan..... Kok liar amat????

Di beres peugeot gak boleh, soalnya montirnya pada ngeluh "aduhhhhhh dasar mobil prancis rongsokannn"...kasian kan customer denger beginian

mungkin di beres toyota montirnya bilang, "apanja lagi apanja lagi... kyk ga ada mobil lain aja......"

fufufu....

[ak4ng]

Di beres Toyota kita bisa keluar masuk sembarangan..... Kok liar amat????

Di beres peugeot gak boleh, soalnya montirnya pada ngeluh "aduhhhhhh dasar mobil prancis rongsokannn"...kasian kan customer denger beginian

mungkin di beres toyota montirnya bilang, "apanja lagi apanja lagi... kyk ga ada mobil lain aja......"

fufufu....

itu mobil sampeyan toh??

[FortunerMan]

Turbocharged + Supercharged GT-86 (320 hp)

[Nightster Guy]

Aseeeeeeek, trid 'two horse race' resmi dimulai dengan kehadiran 2 kontestan........

[AD74YA]

Beberapa post terakhir saya delete karena mengandung personal attack yang kuat.

Harap jaga forum tetap kondisif... Thanks

[FortunerMan]

Good job mod!

[Nightster Guy]

'N here we go again.... Again.... Again.... Again....