Neo Baleno 2008

Segala mobil tipe sedan (Baleno, Accord, Corrola, dll).

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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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Sebenernya si gini aja ya... Sekarang concept atau design mobil 1500cc itu semuanya dari hatchback yang ditambahin pantat. vios=yaris tambah pantat, city=jazz tambah pantat n permak muka, neo baleno=sx4 tambah pantat. Sekarang ini memang semuanya ga normal. Yang seharusnya sedan bener adalah jaman2 city type Z, baleno 1996-2001, toyota corolla 1.6/1.8. Memang no offence si model2 sedan 1500cc sekarang kaya begitu. Tapi mungkin untuk mengirit biaya dan efisiensi, kalau ga ntar di demo ma orang2 yang maniak global warming lagi... hehehe... sorry neh klo OOT yang akhir2nya...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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walah, itu poto yg ngambil pasti barudak BCI...

why, launching nya harus pake model yg gini sih... kek produk jamu jadinya... duh...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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ya kalo tujuan spy mencegah global warming sih gpp. hehehehe
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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Vios ga yaris ditambahin pantat langsung deh, juga city dari jazz.
Yg part exterior bodynya sama cuma yg kecil2, di city/jazz: spion & handle pintu tuh. Mukanya beda, juga dari jaman Nouva / grand.
Lain dgn esteem/amenity, winner/classy, 323elite/hatchback, dst dst.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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beberapa pic neo baleno, silahkan di comment...

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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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suzuki, rata2 modelnya tampilan muka, bagus.
tapi tampilan belakangnya kurang. walaupun buntut neobaleno ini udah better drpd model lama suzuki forsa amenity esteem baleno, aerio, next G.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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not bad..suka detail nya nih...ada pendar lampu menyala dekat rumah kunci kontak..hehehe
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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versi luar kebanyakan 2000cc, apa yg disini 1500cc itu tdk underpower ya?
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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seat agak lebih tinggi sih dibanding yg lama... mungkin utk driver view (wanita) cukup nyaman...
interior, saya lebih suka nextG/aerio. >>> pada bagian dash tengah, sudah ada kit dari pabrikan jika ingin mengganti HU.(doubledin). panel AC sangat ketinggalan jaman, dulu diharapkan sudah digital ternyata tidak.
pilar A lumayan lebih nyaman dibanding nextG/aerio.

utk buntut, lubang kunci mengganggu... utk bagasi memang luas (tinggi), saya lupa utk ambil pic nya...

terakhir, rims... 15" oke, tapi model sangat mirip dengan baleno lama (sebelum nextG). saya pribadi, agak tidak suka... kalah dengan pesaing dari honda dan toyota. kelebihan PCD nya sudah 5.

dari semua, saya paling suka headlampnya... hehe...

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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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GTR wrote:versi luar kebanyakan 2000cc, apa yg disini 1500cc itu tdk underpower ya?
dari jaman nextG/aerio, sebenernya under power... secara diluar mesin pake J20-J23. dan yg 1.8, hanya di beberapa negara yg memakai M15A termasuk indo.
makanya diluar, aerio sedan (nextG) dan hatchback sangat digemari karena mesin nya kenceng... sementara disini cukup puas dengan 1.5 saja...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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ZombiEE wrote:not bad..suka detail nya nih...ada pendar lampu menyala dekat rumah kunci kontak..hehehe
aksesori kecil2 itu menurut saya tidak terlalu penting.
dari jaman mazda323elite mobil ini lengkap sekali pd jamannya : iluminated starter-key hole, speedometer digital w/ variable brightness, a/c vent di utk ruangkaki belakang, adjustable height driver seat,safety power window, & (bahkan) rear wiper.
tapi, begitu test compare dgn twincam or grandcivic (yg tidak ada kelengkapan tsb) namun jauh sekali driving experiencenya, jadi prefer 2 mobil ini.
Juga 626capella yg bahkan plus ada driver adjustable suspensi elektronik, tapi begitu compare driving with prestige or corona (yg jg tidak ada asesoris tsb), jauh sekali, so tidak ada artinya lagi deh asesoris semua tadi.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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Memangnya tombol AC city/vios sudah digital? Pengennya gw ganti pke yang digital tuh, tapi ntar ribet ah masangnya. Bis akan ada electronicnya yang menghubungkan ke ECU lagi... Itu ada di swift sport, model tombol AC digital
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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hehehe kan gue ga bandingin sama yg lain, hanya sayang aja... feature masih bisa di up dengan digital.
like u said, bro... seperti swift sport.
overall, this new baleno bakalan laku... ga seperti kakaknya, nextG. :)

but, gue masih sayang ama my nextG... lagi hot2nya malah... hahaha! let see next year lah...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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Kalo gw bilang sih modelnya gak jelek, tapi memang masih jauh dari perfect. OK lah untuk desain sedan mini 1500cc.
Tp menurut gw desainnya agak "menipu" customer soalnya kalo diliat dari belakang sepertinya Neo Baleno ini cukup besar dan lega interiornya (bisa dibilang sebesar altis/civic), tapi kenyataanya gak lebih besar dari vios/city :D
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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FortunerMan wrote:Gila, kalo diliat FPI bisa dibakar tuh pabrik Suzuki! Huahahaha...untung RUU anti [cencored] gak jadi ya bros?

IMO, this is the ugliest car I have ever seen, tapi interiornya bagus... Mendingan SX4 kemana mana kalo mau Suzuki.
Hati hati bung ketahuan FPI tuh
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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memang sih ga gt penting aksesori kecil2 seperti itu..tapi I am impressed jg..hehee
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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oiya.tambahan..emg driving impression penting X, tapi konsumen jg ga bakalan nolak koq dapet nice little detail..hehehe..bener ga bang?:)
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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sayangnya, kemaren di pameran ga ada yg sudah dimodif seperti launching di jkt...
bicara about detailing, sekarang konsumen sudah kritis... soal handle pintu saja bisa batal ambil unit...

oya, dulu saya juga waktu ambil unit suzuki minta agar emblem vvt dilepas... (malu ah, banyak teknologi yg lebih canggih)... hehehe
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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[quote="ZombiEE"]oiya.tambahan..emg driving impression penting X, tapi konsumen jg ga bakalan nolak koq dapet nice little detail..hehehe..bener ga bang?:)[/quote]

bener sih, tapi kalo buat saya, detail itu adalah hal2 kecil yg involve lsg continuously dgn pengendara, contoh:
1. kelembutan pintu2 saat ditutup, ada langsung seolah efek "nyedot"/mudah sekali ditutup tanpa perlu dilempar dgn bunyi kecil "bleb", krn sebagian bunyi "brek".
2. Surface material dashboard, terutama setir. ada yg grainy memberi kesan tidak licin & PD saat disetir, juga surface di dashboard.
3. feeling perpindahan2 tuas perseneling, ada yg memberikan feeling mudah masuk, lancar, tnp suara, berat, ada ringan tapi kaku, dst.
4. juga rasa/hentakan tuas2 sign, wiper, dsb saat dimainkan.
5. posisi2 pedal2

pada sebagian produsen, sangat memperhatikan hal ini & tetap khas walaupun di produk low-end nya.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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VVTnya diganti emblem apa pak poetic? V12? hehehe...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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VVT sama VTEC mirip kan? cuman beda nama doank?

cek di http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

and di http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_M_engine

BTW ini baleno kaga pake timing belt lagi ya, pake chain, lebih durable n lama banget digantinya.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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M15a timing chain deh ya, seperti juga vios dan jazz.
VVT(i)= timing inlet valve yg variable.
vtec = lift(tinggi) inlet valve yg variable.
VVTL-i = i-vtec = timing & lift inlet valve variable.
Dual vvt-i = timing inlet & exhaust valve juga variable.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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yup... timing chain... sik asik kan... tambah cinte nih ama nextG gue... :P
kepikir sih, kali taun depan mau ganti body ah... kali bisa lepas pasang sama neo baleno... hihihi j/k.... j/k...

@naldo : weeee! polos aja bro... lambang S dan 4matic juga dilepas. masih nyari lambang S - suzuki lawas, belum nemu yg pas... dichrome ulang. terus terang, agak geli sama lambang S yg baru.

halaaaah...

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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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poeticmind wrote:
GTR wrote:versi luar kebanyakan 2000cc, apa yg disini 1500cc itu tdk underpower ya?
dari jaman nextG/aerio, sebenernya under power... secara diluar mesin pake J20-J23. dan yg 1.8, hanya di beberapa negara yg memakai M15A termasuk indo.
makanya diluar, aerio sedan (nextG) dan hatchback sangat digemari karena mesin nya kenceng... sementara disini cukup puas dengan 1.5 saja...

pihak suzuki dan HKS lagi kerjasama, ke depan swift bisa upgrade pasang turbo, dan denger2nya juga bisa pasang di neo baleno....harga2 45-50jt. mabok :)
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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halaaaah mahal, bro... mending pasang di garasi gue kalo gitu... 35jt. hahaha! j/k.

kalo swift memang sudah banyak yg pasang turbo... artinya neo bal' juga bisa... tapi bukan itu yg dicari. turbo pasti ga usah di pertanyakan... kenceng2 aja. tapi based tipe mesin nya yg dipertanyakan...
but, mungkin juga hanya 1.5 karena masalah harga... kebayang kan jika neo bal' dipasarkan seharga 250-300jt? doeeeeng! :P
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