Compare New Jupiter Z (2007) n New Supra X 125 (2007)

Segala motor tipe moped (Bebek, Supra, Shogun, dll).

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Ya logikanya, diantara suhu dingin dan suhu panas, suhu manakah yang memungkinkah bahan bakar lebih mudah terbakar?

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ya BBM yg suhunya panas cepet terbakar. Tapi BBM ini tidak terbakar duluan (self combusting/ auto ignite) karena mesin yang kita bicarakan tingkat kompresinya belum memungkinkan utk itu. Lain ceritanya kalau mesin diesel.

Anyway, masalah di jupiMX nya bro, apa mungkin "issue" yang ini?
http://www.motorplus-online.com/articles.asp?id=9068
Nano Energizer - (Product of nanoTec International - Korea) dengan nano ceramic technology.
Easy Engine Restore, repair & protect
Cukup sekali pakai utk 30rb-50rb Km..Tambah tenaga,Hemat BBM,Mengurangi Polusi.
klik disini utk lihat infonya
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neo88 wrote:ohhhhh gitu taa... :o ,
ok dehhhh thanksss yaa brooo knight.... :) ehhh gilee jm segitu blum bobo... ga, ngapain ajaaaa??? :roll: ga ngatuk ta?
btw cocok ama namanya... KNIGHT ~NIgHT~malemmm gito lhoo :D
kalo neo dahh bobo...
dahh mimpi indahhhhh ma cewek neo wkaaakakakakakaa Image
Wah3x bro neo88...
Knalin dunk... :P
Frozen Fire wrote: iya betul sekali, karena suhu naik kan pasti kondisi di dalem mesin memungkinkan bahan bakar lebih mudar terbakar dibanding waktu mesin masih dingin. Jadinya ngelitik deh walau udah pake pertamax. MX gua aja abis lepas macet, maksudnya baru lewat macet trus mau langsung lari, pasti ngorok juga walau sudah berbekal radiator, karena memang raditor tetep butuh waktu untuk mendinginkan suhu mesin.
Wah si bro dah nemu problem yg sering diributin Pulsar & MX???
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Udahlah bro kambing, kalo mau yg diavatar ane ajah, gimana?
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le_bogs wrote:Udahlah bro kambing, kalo mau yg diavatar ane ajah, gimana?
BISA DICOBA??? :shock:

Bro Neo pny masih lebih mantabhpffffffffff...slurpp...
Wah ini jadi ajang pamer avatar...

Hayo2 Bro neo jadi bli yg mana nih..
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kambing_knight wrote:
neo88 wrote:bro knight bil kalo kompresi >9.5 diminumin petramax ntar mesin knocking, mang artinya engine knocking tuh apaan ?
campuran bensin ama udara yg udah terbakar sebagian terdesak ama campuran bensin ama udara yg blum terbaka sebelum piston pada posisinya sehingga
menimbulkan ledakan,gitu tahhh? CMIIW :cry:
neo baca di wikipedia nangkepnya suliittt, bisa dibantu? maklum ga ngeh soal mesin
thankssss
Wes gini aja deh, klo liat2 motor, minta brosurnya..trus liat rasio kompresinya..kira2 10:1 pake pertamax ato yg lebih baik..
klo kurang dari 10:1 bukannya haram minum pertamax..minum pertamax malah bikin ga knocking, premium tuh yg suka bikin knocking, gitu bro neo88
Tapi standar batas konsumsi jenis bbm untuk nilai kompresi jg belum jelas sih..
Ada beberapa bro2 yg memodif motornya supaya kompresi tinggi bisa akur sama premium..tapi dasar ilmiahnya menurut saya jg masih krg..(wong namanya jg modif)
Sesuai nick-name-nya, doi pasti pake premium.... :P
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supra 125 ma jupi z

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honda supra 125 vs jupiter z ya.

mesin: sama dengan model generasi sebelumnya
bodi: ada perubahan di supra ma jupiter
tenaga: gedean z
irit: supra

gimana kalo beli 22nya. kalo merasa sreg yang satu, yang satunya jual aja hehehheheh....itung-itung investasi bos.
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kambing_knight wrote:
le_bogs wrote:Udahlah bro kambing, kalo mau yg diavatar ane ajah, gimana?
BISA DICOBA???
Apa nya 'nyang bisa di coba... ???? :lol: Image
kambing_knight wrote: Bro Neo pny masih lebih mantabhpffffffffff...slurpp...
Wah ini jadi ajang pamer avatar...
heee...heee bro KniGht suka ma cewek neo weeeeekk Image
jooo ngileerrrr lagi lho yooooo,.... wakakakakakakakaaaaaaaaa Image
iyooo broo pa lagi bibirnya yg bikin neo jadiiiiiiiii..............ii peee.......nggggeeee......n terussssss.... " **** "
kambing_knight wrote: Hayo2 Bro neo jadi bli yg mana nih..
rasanya sihhhh milihhh jupii... tapi ga tau lagi yachh.... ntar taon depan liat ktnyaaa... motor2 baru mo keluar
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Re: supra 125 ma jupi z

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[quote="ibar78"]honda supra 125 vs jupiter z ya.

mesin: sama dengan model generasi sebelumnya
bodi: ada perubahan di supra ma jupiter
tenaga: gedean z
irit: supra

gimana kalo beli 22nya. kalo merasa sreg yang satu, yang satunya jual aja hehehheheh....itung-itung investasi bos.[/quote]

masa sih bro tenaga gedean z, mungkin kerasanya aja tarikan lebih ringan gara-gara girnya pendek2
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Re: supra 125 ma jupi z

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ibar78 wrote:honda supra 125 vs jupiter z ya.

mesin: sama dengan model generasi sebelumnya
bodi: ada perubahan di supra ma jupiter
tenaga: gedean z
irit: supra
ok brooo...., thanks 8)
ibar78 wrote: gimana kalo beli 22nya. kalo merasa sreg yang satu, yang satunya jual aja hehehheheh....itung-itung investasi bos.
tuhh bukan investasi... broooo..., yg ada malah gw jd pada bangkrufffff nnnnn dipecaaaat ma cayankkkk... :roll: hikk hiiikkk hiikkk :cry:
'ntar disrooobooot ma bro KnIgHT lhooo, gimana cihhhh Image peeaceeee....
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Re: supra 125 ma jupi z

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kimi wrote:
ibar78 wrote:honda supra 125 vs jupiter z ya.

mesin: sama dengan model generasi sebelumnya
bodi: ada perubahan di supra ma jupiter
tenaga: gedean z
irit: supra

gimana kalo beli 22nya. kalo merasa sreg yang satu, yang satunya jual aja hehehheheh....itung-itung investasi bos.
masa sih bro tenaga gedean z, mungkin kerasanya aja tarikan lebih ringan gara-gara girnya pendek2
eeehhh iyaaaa masak juga gedean jupi... kan CC jupi lebih kecilll.... lahhhh kalo gitu bro KIMI
iriiitann jupi 110 CC dong dibanding ma supri 125 CC.... ada yg pernah mbandinginnn ga yaaa...? :?
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neo88 wrote:
'ntar disrooobooot ma bro KnIgHT lhooo, gimana cihhhh Image peeaceeee....
SIAP MENYEROBOT MODE = ON
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tuuuhhh kannn molaiiiiii lagiiiii ......

kaburr..... ahhhhhhh......
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Re: supra 125 ma jupi z

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neo88 wrote:
kimi wrote:
ibar78 wrote:honda supra 125 vs jupiter z ya.

mesin: sama dengan model generasi sebelumnya
bodi: ada perubahan di supra ma jupiter
tenaga: gedean z
irit: supra

gimana kalo beli 22nya. kalo merasa sreg yang satu, yang satunya jual aja hehehheheh....itung-itung investasi bos.
masa sih bro tenaga gedean z, mungkin kerasanya aja tarikan lebih ringan gara-gara girnya pendek2
eeehhh iyaaaa masak juga gedean jupi... kan CC jupi lebih kecilll.... lahhhh kalo gitu bro KIMI
iriiitann jupi 110 CC dong dibanding ma supri 125 CC.... ada yg pernah mbandinginnn ga yaaa...? :?
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Eh btul lho Supra X 125 kalah kenceng (top speed ato akselarasi yak??) ma Jupi Z..
Mungkin settingannya gitu kali..
Jupi Z keren yg biru CW n silver CW tuh..Ntar dipasangin tachometer RPM..trus tambahin reardisc brake...kueereeennnn

lebih keren Pulsar + bw boncenger cewenya bro Neo....
hihihihi...kabuuurrrr naek pulsar ah...
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Biar nggak OOT berkepanjangan (plis deh sebelum ditegur sama momod), berikut tabel kompresi masing-masing merek motor.

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Dari tabel di atas bisa kelihatan bahwa rata2 motor Honda berkompresi rendah (untuk mengejar keiritan). Sedangkan Jupiter-Z kompresinya di atas 1:9, sehingga dari segi power juga lebih besar dibanding dgn SupraX125R yang mesinnya masih sama dgn Karisma.

Ditambah lagi dgn karakter mesin Yamaha yang menganut stroke pendek, otomatis dari segi akselerasi juga lebih unggul Jupy dibanding Supri.

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ohhh jadi kompresi berbanding lurus ma power yg dihasilkan yaaa broo ?
mang 9.3 punya Jupiter Z ma 9.0 Supra X 125R, beda cuma 0.3 doang beda banget ya powernya ?
oh yacch kalo power gede (kompressi > 9) biarpun CC kecil tetep lebih boros ya bro tuff?
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neo88 wrote:ohhh jadi kompresi berbanding lurus ma power yg dihasilkan yaaa broo ?
mang 9.3 punya Jupiter Z ma 9.0 Supra X 125R, beda cuma 0.3 doang beda banget ya powernya ?
oh yacch kalo power gede (kompressi > 9) biarpun CC kecil tetep lebih boros ya bro tuff?
New Shogun SP kompresi 9.3an:1 lebih irit (1lt :60km)daripada Supra X125 PGMFi sekalipun..
Tuh kan tambah mbulets...hihihihi...
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Intinya sih kompresi tinggi ditambah dgn stroke pendek otomatis konsumsi bbm menjadi lebih banyak dibanding kompresi rendah dgn stroke lebih panjang.

Tambahan lagi, dengan kompresi tinggi, otomatis bbm yang digunakan nggak bisa sembarangan. Kalau kompresi sudah di atas 1:9, minimal harus pertamax. Bisa sih dipaksakan pakai premium, tapi umur komponen mesin dipertaruhkan.

Tapi itu semua tetap relatif, tergantung karakter berkendara sang rider itu sendiri.
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Post by kimi »

klo powernya dari web pabrikan

JupiterZ: Daya Maksimum 9.0 PS / 8,000 RPM

Supra 125: Daya maksimum 9,3 PS / 7.500 rpm

trus kompresi new shogun kalo ga salah skrng jadi 9.5:1
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TUFF Stough wrote:Intinya sih kompresi tinggi ditambah dgn stroke pendek otomatis konsumsi bbm menjadi lebih banyak dibanding kompresi rendah dgn stroke lebih panjang.

Tambahan lagi, dengan kompresi tinggi, otomatis bbm yang digunakan nggak bisa sembarangan. Kalau kompresi sudah di atas 1:9, minimal harus pertamax. Bisa sih dipaksakan pakai premium, tapi umur komponen mesin dipertaruhkan.

Tapi itu semua tetap relatif, tergantung karakter berkendara sang rider itu sendiri.
stroke tuhh maksudnya lengan piston yachh??
kok lengannya pendek konsumsinya jd lebih banyakkk? gimana logikanya yach?
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Logikanya, semakin pendek stroke, waktu yang dibutuhkan untuk piston dari Titik Mati Bawah (TMB, bensin masuk ke mesin) mencapai Titik Mati Atas (TMA, saat busi memercik) semakin cepat, demikian juga sebaliknya, dari TMA ke TMB (saat klep pembuangan dibuka) juga cepat. Nah untuk mengakomodasi hal tsb, bukaan klep juga menjadi cepat.

Bingung?
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ooohhh gituuu... :D dah kok dahhh jelasss...

ok.. thankss

btw momod tuhhh sapa ya broo Tuff? kok ga pernah nongoll ?
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momodnya forum moped adalah Crash dan yo-yo-yo

ayo dong nongol, diminta ama neo tuh, ntar boleh ngebonceng avatarnya katanya...ha..h.a.h.a..

asli cakep..
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Abu2 wrote:momodnya forum moped adalah Crash dan yo-yo-yo

ayo dong nongol, diminta ama neo tuh, ntar boleh ngebonceng avatarnya katanya...ha..h.a.h.a..

asli cakep..
Ane dah pesen tiket pertama aja belum dikirim tuh (cewek) bro... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Kaburrr.............................dikejar bro neo ntar......
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