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Pertamax Green

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Yak seperti yg sudah digembar gemborkan, launching jg pertamax 92 + ethanol 5%, pricing saat launching per hari ini (24 juli 2023) di 13.500/liter. Mepet sama shell vpower dan bp ultimate di 13.780 dan revvo 95 di harga 13.580/liter (harga jkt).

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Yg enginenya ud pada diremap boleh coba tu.. kali2 bisa jd kg usah pertabo mulu :ngacir:
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di sini Pertabo 14,700 jadi tutup mata tetep pertabo yang pasti RON98 aja
kecuali harganya sama kayak Pertamax skrg, which is ga mungkin
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saya coba search / googling

"side effect ethanol gasoline"

selanjutnya pilihan ada di tangan masing2 :mky_03:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 14:44 saya coba search / googling

"side effect ethanol gasoline"

selanjutnya pilihan ada di tangan masing2 :mky_03:
Ethanol may contribute to corrosion of fuel tanks and other fuel system components at a rapid rate. It is very important to pour in a fuel additive that guards against corrosion every time you fill the tank; this is especially true with small engines since many still use aluminium parts which corrode more quickly resulting in oxides that look like white rust.
source: https://www.goldeagle.com/tips-tools/wh ... gainst-it/
EWG’s review has found that:
• A higher ethanol blend may damage nonroad engines and emission control systems.
• Emissions from higher ethanol fuels may worsen health risks from air pollution.
• Distribution of higher ethanol fuel blends may pose new safety risks and higher fuel costs.
• Higher-ethanol fuel blends may compromise lifetime performance of non-flex fuel vehicles.
source: https://www.ewg.org/sites/default/files ... -paper.pdf
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Re: Pertamax Green

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Hasil google sih wajib diatas 10% baru bahaya...

Sama katanya ethanol lebih boros

Tunggu ethanol 10% deh baru bikin sayembara uji coba pertamax vs pertamax green
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AbdulHakim wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 14:56
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 14:44 saya coba search / googling

"side effect ethanol gasoline"

selanjutnya pilihan ada di tangan masing2 :mky_03:
Ethanol may contribute to corrosion of fuel tanks and other fuel system components at a rapid rate. It is very important to pour in a fuel additive that guards against corrosion every time you fill the tank; this is especially true with small engines since many still use aluminium parts which corrode more quickly resulting in oxides that look like white rust.
source: https://www.goldeagle.com/tips-tools/wh ... gainst-it/
EWG’s review has found that:
• A higher ethanol blend may damage nonroad engines and emission control systems.
• Emissions from higher ethanol fuels may worsen health risks from air pollution.
• Distribution of higher ethanol fuel blends may pose new safety risks and higher fuel costs.
• Higher-ethanol fuel blends may compromise lifetime performance of non-flex fuel vehicles.
source: https://www.ewg.org/sites/default/files ... -paper.pdf
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Masih maen amanlah etanol 5% kalo uda 15% baru butuh penyesuaian
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Pricing harganya saat ini sama kayak Ron 95 merk lain, mending ngambil merk lain yg uda pasti aman ya. Agak2 skeptis jg sama ethanolnya.
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Re: Pertamax Green

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Brati siap naik yg laen ron 95nya
Pertamax eco kan diplotnya lbih ramah lingkungan
Lebih tinggi ron
Lebih hemat
Lebih kompetitif harga :mky_03:
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Mobil sini tuh ga didesain buat ethanol sih, beda dengan di US yang udah banyak pakai flex fuel. Apalagi mobil2 jadul. Saya skip aja deh. Kalo kepepet yaa gapapa juga sih.
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Re: Pertamax Green

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Padahal di luar negri itu harga bensin ethanol lebih murah daripada yg regular
Kirain jual 10rb buat ganti pertalite
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Zaxis wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:11 Padahal di luar negri itu harga bensin ethanol lebih murah daripada yg regular
Kirain jual 10rb buat ganti pertalite
Pemikiran orang Indonesia banget ga siy ini, kalo produk baru itu bakal lebih murah :big_peace:
Padahal produk-produk baru itu harganya lebih tinggi, ya paling gak buat nutup ongkos R&D nya
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semoga merk lain gak ikutan campur dengan 5% ethanol.
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Re: Pertamax Green

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Strategi marketing nya agak aneh, dijual mepet pertabo98,.
Bagi yg paham efek etanol pasti stay d regular Pertamax atau loncat sekalian ke 98, beda dikit. Kalo mau iseng, setelah isi d tank, 2 hari kemudian tes kadar air nya (d yutube ada caranya). Hihihi....kalo aman lanjuttt.

Kalo ni produk laku, ane yakin jumlah etanol bakal d push terus...bisa jadi beyond 15%, macam biosolar dulu. Tinggal liat siapa oligarki yg berkuasa ntar.
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Re: Pertamax Green

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Intinya tergantung regulasinya nanti seperti apa.
Namun, regulasi juga "terkadang" disetir oleh yang punya kepentingan :big_blushing:
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AbdulHakim wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:25 Pemikiran orang Indonesia banget ga siy ini, kalo produk baru itu bakal lebih murah :big_peace:
Padahal produk-produk baru itu harganya lebih tinggi, ya paling gak buat nutup ongkos R&D nya
https://www.shell.co.th/en_th/motorists ... rices.html

Fakta nya begitu om di luar negri lebih murah itu gasohol (gasoline-ethanol)

https://fuelprice.io/station/caltex-woolworths/
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Zaxis wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:46
AbdulHakim wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:25 Pemikiran orang Indonesia banget ga siy ini, kalo produk baru itu bakal lebih murah :big_peace:
Padahal produk-produk baru itu harganya lebih tinggi, ya paling gak buat nutup ongkos R&D nya
https://www.shell.co.th/en_th/motorists ... rices.html

Fakta nya begitu om di luar negri lebih murah itu gasohol (gasoline-ethanol)

https://fuelprice.io/station/caltex-woolworths/
psstt.. nanti disuruh pindah ke luar negri aja :big_biglaugh:
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tetep bbm swasta kalo saya
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Re: Pertamax Green

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mungkinkah buat persiapan di masa depan, pertalite diapus terus pertamax biasa yg jadi bensin subsidi?
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rajapb wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:04 mungkinkah buat persiapan di masa depan, pertalite diapus terus pertamax biasa yg jadi bensin subsidi?
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Re: Pertamax Green

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E5 masih safe lah buat mesin CKD sini .. lagian oktannya juga mayan RON 95
cuman harganya mepet bener sama 95 swasta

selangnya ungu kalo ga salah
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lucu

dsini koq bensin dicampur etanol harganya malah jd mahal

di aussie aj, bensin campuran etanol 10 persen oktan 94 aj jadi bensin paling terhina murah nya ktimbang kelas oktan 91
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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tinggal diliat efek jangka panjangnya ke mesin. sama gmana penjualannya dibanding produk RON 95 dri kompetitor :big_grin:

btw, harga pertamax green beda 500 sama pertamax turbo. klo bgini rasanya mnding beli yg pertamax turbo skalian..
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Tebak² nih kalau full terus ethanol

bakal ilang pertalite murni, jadi Pertalite eco/green e5 ron 92 rp11.000
Pertamax jg ilang jd eco/green ron 95
Pertaturbo tetep

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Kalau saat ini,sy pilih bp beli 25ltr gratis 1 ltr
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