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Mobil / motor near zero depreciation

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Yuk bahas motor mobil yang depresiasinya sangat kecil bahkan zero

1. Honda rebel cmx 500 launching otr 147 juta, harga pasaran unit tahun 2017 masih 130 - 135... 6 tahun cuma turun 10 juta
2. Kawasaki Vulcan , versys 650 juga mirip mirip 6 tahun cuma turun 15 jutaan
3. Jeep Wrangler / Rubicon tahun 2007 otr 800 jutaan. Unit tsb dijual 2023 masih 700an , 14 tahun cuma turun 100 jutaan

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hehe, gatel pengen chip in. selalu jawaban nya adalah LANDCRUISERRRR. yang beli 1996/7 jual 2023, cuan banget VXR 275 brand new jual 500 minimal, kondisi wah bisa 750++. untung pake, untung gengsi dan untung jual. emang gak semua jenis landcruiser, tp semakin langka ya semakin diburu. bundera/ prado 70series, my goodness, 1M++

basically yang ada demand nya ya pasti bagus sih, usual supply and demand graph.
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goodwill wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:14 hehe, gatel pengen chip in. selalu jawaban nya adalah LANDCRUISERRRR. yang beli 1996/7 jual 2023, cuan banget VXR 275 brand new jual 500 minimal, kondisi wah bisa 750++. untung pake, untung gengsi dan untung jual. emang gak semua jenis landcruiser, tp semakin langka ya semakin diburu. bundera/ prado 70series, my goodness, 1M++

basically yang ada demand nya ya pasti bagus sih, usual supply and demand graph.
kalau dihitung dengan harga dollar pada awal 1998 yang mencapai 15 ribuan, sama dengan saat ini (hanya lihat angkanya ya), bisa dibilang harga vx 80 malah naik 2x lipat lebih ya
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Honda civic estilo.

Dulu orian cuma 100an skrg jangan mimpi bangkenya aja 100, orian ya sukur2 ada yang mau jual 300 :big_biglaugh: temen gw dulu thn 2012 beli estilo "cuma" 150jt orian.

Bahkan kalau diitung semua maintenance dan restorasi juga cuancuancuan. Wkwkwkwkkw. Bbrp mobil aja ada yang valuenya nahan tapi biaya restore nya juga besar.

Ni mobil macem integra type R DC2 di amrik. Mahal banget sekarang.
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Wah gorengan si special case ya haha

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mobil apapun jaman skrg selama generasi yg sama kyknya minim depresiasi dah um

soalna harga baru naik teruss

kayak masda 2 oe, dulu beli 301jt (soul red, disc 10), barunya 352jt :big_biglaugh:

aplg yg beli crv turbo harga ppnbm, beli 550 jual 635 :big_biglaugh:

makanya klo beli oonda & toyota klo ada diskon pemerintah, lgsg sikat aja. soalnya taun depan ud naik harga lagi :big_biglaugh:

camry hibrid jg gitu kan, dulu 770jt skrg udah 900. dijual balik 770 jg masih reasonable kayaknya :big_biglaugh:
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fansdiesel wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 11:25 Wah gorengan si special case ya haha

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Jazz gk5 , beli 260 jt usia Uda ampir ganti plat masi laku 235
Kalau murni depresiasi all gen Jazz sih masuk. Civic FD ya masuk itu seken ga turun2. Civic hatchback FK4 ya masuk dulu beli 400 skrg jual 350an msh dapet.

Tp kalo ngitung semua biaya kepemilikan perawatan dll yah jatohnya tetep banyak :mky_01:
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darrelund wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:02 mobil apapun jaman skrg selama generasi yg sama kyknya minim depresiasi dah um

soalna harga baru naik teruss

kayak masda 2 oe, dulu beli 301jt (soul red, disc 10), barunya 352jt :big_biglaugh:

aplg yg beli crv turbo harga ppnbm, beli 550 jual 635 :big_biglaugh:

makanya klo beli oonda & toyota klo ada diskon pemerintah, lgsg sikat aja. soalnya taun depan ud naik harga lagi :big_biglaugh:

camry hibrid jg gitu kan, dulu 770jt skrg udah 900. dijual balik 770 jg masih reasonable kayaknya :big_biglaugh:
Oe beli mazdut 2 FL 1 225jt sahaja om, beli di giias 2018, vin 2017 tp plat keluar 2019. Liat2 pasaran di oelex masih lumayan bertahan yak, pedagang buka harga kredit 190 mepet 200an :big_biglaugh:

Wajar aja harganya segitu, wong skrng harga barunya uda 350jt masih pake platform yg sama.
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apa cuma disini aja yang harga 2nd itu patokannya harga barunya ya bukan harga saat belinya :big_think: :big_think: :big_think:

kyknya di malaysia aja gak gitu gitu amat patokannya di otr baru mobil yang sama
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Kalau konteksnya zero depreciation dengan inflation adjusted di Indonesia setau saya
Mobil = land cruiser, estilo
Motor = NSR SP, nova dash, mio karbu

Kalau di luar negeri mungkin yg bisa kayak gitu yg bener2 sport classic kayak Jaguar E Type, Ferrari 250 GTO etc ya
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Jgn cuman lihat nominalnya, karena nilai uang jg berubah karena inflasi. Coba cek dgn kalkulator inflasi jg buat tau nilai real nya. Untuk mobil2 hobby n gorengan sih kelihatannya begitu ya. Cuman ada bbrp mobil hobby yg saya masukin wishlist di olx, berbulan2 bahkan ada yg udah lewat setahun blm laku, padahal sepertinya harganya cukup rasional. Tiap buka notifikasi cuman ada keterangan penjual mengedit iklan itu, jarang banget ada notif iklan terjual.
Klo yg depresiasi minim buat mobil yg bukan kategori mobil hobby menurut saya sih brio, harganya cukup bertahan
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darrelund wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:02 mobil apapun jaman skrg selama generasi yg sama kyknya minim depresiasi dah um

soalna harga baru naik teruss

kayak masda 2 oe, dulu beli 301jt (soul red, disc 10), barunya 352jt :big_biglaugh:

aplg yg beli crv turbo harga ppnbm, beli 550 jual 635 :big_biglaugh:

makanya klo beli oonda & toyota klo ada diskon pemerintah, lgsg sikat aja. soalnya taun depan ud naik harga lagi :big_biglaugh:

camry hibrid jg gitu kan, dulu 770jt skrg udah 900. dijual balik 770 jg masih reasonable kayaknya :big_biglaugh:
ga berasa ya om, 10 thn lagi agya GR supersport 400jt, veloz 500jt, innova 1M, alpat 3M

Kelas 200jt nanti diisi sama micro car 2 seater mungkin, ato balik ke jaman bentor :big_biglaugh:
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Karimun kotak udah 23 taun harganya cm berkurang 10jt
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kalo mobil hobi kurang tau, tp kalo mobil mainstream menurut saya
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Utk Mercy atau BMW ga ada ya?
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Brio RS CVT 2018, beli tidak lama setelah launching 200 juta, jual Februari 2023, 162 juta, tau deh termasuk minim apa enggak depresiasinya.
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kurniakerten wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 15:27 Utk Mercy atau BMW ga ada ya?
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Sama type wagon? Tp gw seh liatnya nggilani harga wagon kegoreng, mobil buat bawa peti mati gitu wkwkwk
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Crf 250 rally 2017..launching harga 63 jt...harga seken sekarang 75jt
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Honda GL max 1993. Beli bekas tahun 97 harga 3.2 jt jual di 2015 harga 3.0 juta.
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Di Indo itu, pasti ada masa-masa harga mobil naik cepet, ada juga masa-masanya harga stagnan dikit-dikit naiknya...

Apalagi pas kurs Yen atau USD bergejolak, wah itu harga mobil setahun bisa naik 2x wkwkwk
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e46 yang dua pintu alias ci juga harganya naik perlahan makin gak kebeli
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Harchi wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 14:47 Jgn cuman lihat nominalnya, karena nilai uang jg berubah karena inflasi. Coba cek dgn kalkulator inflasi jg buat tau nilai real nya. Untuk mobil2 hobby n gorengan sih kelihatannya begitu ya. Cuman ada bbrp mobil hobby yg saya masukin wishlist di olx, berbulan2 bahkan ada yg udah lewat setahun blm laku, padahal sepertinya harganya cukup rasional. Tiap buka notifikasi cuman ada keterangan penjual mengedit iklan itu, jarang banget ada notif iklan terjual.
Klo yg depresiasi minim buat mobil yg bukan kategori mobil hobby menurut saya sih brio, harganya cukup bertahan
iseng cek via www.inflationtool.com

harga beli civic hb 2017 adjusted ke nilai uang sekarang : 400jt jadi 475jt (surprising krn masih lebih murah daripada HRV RS turbo baru :mky_03: )

depresiasi 475jt - 350jt (market value sekarang) = 125jt (26%). dibagi 5 tahun = 25juta/yr (0.5%/yr). bisa dibilang low lah ya. wkwkkwkw. meski praktek mungkin lebih turun yah namanya tawar menawar. tp kalau ngitung maintenance bensin ma pajak tahunan si pasti gak jadi kecil. wkwkwkkw.

makanya orang yang banyak duit mungkin pasrah aja ditawar sadis ama pedagang toh rugi rugi juga ujungnya.

yang beneran appreciated itu biasanya mobil yang rare/limited tapi partsnya masih common. misal BMW E39 touring skrg harganya 700 jutaan, parts mesin body kaki kaki dll masih mirip dgn E39 sedan.

honda estilo makanya saya sebut karna partnya common dengan genio yang harganya bisa dapet 5 biji itu estilo padahal partnya sama aja. paling beda mahalan kaca belakangnya doank. itu aja bkn parts fast moving yang jadi biaya gede kalo di keep lama. beberapa type eropa klasik kayak 330Ci atau 300CE juga tuh. part jg tinggal ngampak.

makanya netijen bocil yang suka ngehina hina salam satu mesin salam satu dasbor kaga pernah tau rasanya susah cari parts model tua mah kaga ngerti enaknya mobil yang partnya tersebar di banyak model. wkwkwkkwkw.

rare kalo udah gak ada parts tahannya gak lama. cm jadi penghuni junkyard.
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Tahun 2020 waktu jaman covid beli fortuner 2012 diesel matic 225jt, september 2022 dijual 215... udah puas make nya cmn turun 10jt 👏🏻
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Pengalaman pribadi saya

2008 beli Honda Jazz GE8 MT RS Silverstone Metallic 179juta
2013 dijual dengan harga 175juta

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Kalo mobil2 atau motor2 umum (diluar mobil hobi atau gorengan) sih palingan menurut nubie lebih dapat dikategorikan ke 'depresiasi minim' yaa...

Kalo menurut nubie..

Mobil : Honda Brio (depresiasi cenderung lebih kecil dibanding lawan di kelas LCGC), Innova, Fortuner, Pajero Sport yg type diesel (depresiasi cenderung lebih kecil dibandingkan mobil dgn range harga serupa)

Motor : Honda Beat, Scoopy (nubie heran ini motor2 bertahan bgt harganya, mungkin dipengaruhi pembelian yg konon katanya agak sulit kalo mau beli cash dan indent yg lama, correct me if i wrong)

Tapi harga mobil yang bertahan di type mobil2 tertentu pun dipengaruhi sama harga mobil yg cenderung turun pas jaman awal pandemi (2020-2021) sama subsidi PPNBM sih.. Setelah subsidi dihapus sama PPN mobil naik, jadinya mobil tipe yg sama cenderung mahal jauh..
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