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ngomong2 siapa yang bisa menjamin BBG bakalan murah?
elpiji aja naik terus
bbm yg seharusnya bisa ditekan kalau produksi dalam negeri aja jadi mahal

jangan2 bbg ga masuk dulu tunggu yg kaya2 punya duid dulu buat monopoli tuh bisnis :v
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arton wrote: ini sih bicara oknum om dogar,,ane rasa banyak kok petugas pajak yang jujur..tetangga ane ada sebagai petugas pajak pratama bekasi, biasa aja hidupnya..
cuman memang oknum oknum2 ini, sekalinya ngemplang gak karuan jumlahnya, bombastis..hancurlah nama dirjen pajak..
ini miriplah kayak demokrat yang hancur karena kasus anas dan nazarudin..atau PKS dengan pushtun dan daging sapinya..
Betul itu oknum, dan saya percaya pegawai pajak yg jujur tentu lebih banyak daripada yg tidak jujur.
Seperti halnya polisi yg baik juga pasti lebih banyak daripada polisi yg brengsek.
Masalahnya, pegawai pemerintah yg kerjaannya berhubungan langsung dengan masyarakat lebih mudah kena stigma secara instansi
walaupun yg melakukan adalah individu.
Dan kalau saya bilang ngemplang pajak di Indonesia itu lebih gampang ("lebih" itu kata komparasi, artinya dibandingkan negara maju)
memang kenyataannya begitu. Kongkalikong antara auditor pajak dan pengusaha itu sudah jadi hal yg 'biasa' di negri ini.

BTT, ada isu baru nih soal mobil mercy buat mentri yg menurut berita terakhir dibatalkan pengadaannya oleh Setneg.
Kalau benar pemerintah sangat concern dgn penghematan BBM, mestinya mobil-mobil pejabat pakai yg cc nya kecil saja, 1500cc misalnya.
Kalaupun mau yg rada berkelas, pakai Camry Hybrid.
Tapi kalau yg dipilih melulu mobil 3000cc, sebaiknya jangan ngasih petuah sama rakyat untuk hemat bbm.
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kalo gw sih, lbh setuju Normal diesel aja, hanya memang benar harus diperhatikan jgn sampai karena kualitas solar ditingkatkan dengan salah satunya mengurangi sulfur, jangan2 malah kurang pelumasan makanya harus cukup pelumas dan detergen pembersihan sistem.
Harusnya biodiesel digalakkan hanya harus ditambah aditif anti karat dan anti oksidasinya serta kompenen sistemdari pabrikan juga sudah anti karat yang bagus.
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Kayaknya ane baru2 ini baca di koran ato artikel mana yah, katanya bensin pertamina sekarang ini RON nya sdh 90-92, bukan 88 lagi.
Kalo ane pilih BBG ......tapi bagusnya pemerintah subsidi perangkatnya
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Hmmm... baru ngobrol sama pegawai pom bensin tadi... kenaikan RON88 mmg IDR 3000, dan ada selentingan dari bos nya kalau RON92 bakal ikut naik.

Asyem! :big_slap:

RON95 kl sampe naik, serem dah... :big_cry:
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solar_kerosen wrote: Post removed by t0mc4t
asal semuanya fair ga masalah.
memang negara butuh barang tersebut, negara beli atau buat?
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madcat015 wrote:Hmmm... baru ngobrol sama pegawai pom bensin tadi... kenaikan RON88 mmg IDR 3000, dan ada selentingan dari bos nya kalau RON92 bakal ikut naik.

Asyem! :big_slap:

RON95 kl sampe naik, serem dah... :big_cry:
kalo ron 95 udah mengikuti harga pasar minyak. Yg ada akan turun bukan naik karena minyak dunia sedang turun.
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Indonesia per kapita brapa ya? Kelamaan dimanja subsidi ya gini dah jadinya.

Negara (maaf) miskin timor leste harga bensin usd 1.28-1.29 (tergntung spbu, yg semuanya swasta perorangan mostly org china daratan dgn pertamina pengecualian). Ron 92.uda ga jual leaded fuel.

Ngga ribut tuh.. oya UMR sini usd 115.00 thok.

tp memang pndidikan n kesehatan gratis di sini plus jaminan sosial buat usia 60 up.
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Nightster Guy wrote:Indonesia per kapita brapa ya? Kelamaan dimanja subsidi ya gini dah jadinya.

Negara (maaf) miskin timor leste harga bensin usd 1.28-1.29 (tergntung spbu, yg semuanya swasta perorangan mostly org china daratan dgn pertamina pengecualian). Ron 92.

Ngga ribut tuh.. oya UMR sini usd 115.00 thok.

tp memang pndidikan n kesehatan gratis di sini plus jaminan sosial buat usia 60 up.
dikisaran usd4000 om NG.

yg ribut mah sebenernya bukan rakyat miskin jelata om tapi ya mafia2 yg rejekinya tergerus.
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Naik ya naik aja silakan.. mau bilang apa?

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di TL ex combatant dpt duit us$ 5,500; ex clandestine dpt duit us$ 2,500 (per month) n lifetime taxfree

mmg bikin berat subsidi bgitu tapi tanpa mrk TL sengsara tetap jadi propinsi 27 indo (dan plaang darmawanita dimana mana)

annual income per headcount indo skitar us$ 3,000 (jakarta skitar us$ 6,000)
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Yg pnting, bagi kami2 di indo timur, naikin ajalah bbm terutama solar kl mau naik, YANG PENTING PASOKAN LANCAR !!

Di manado udah pemandangan biasa selama lbih dr DUA TAHUN blakangan ini kami antri solar dr tngah malam buat dipake bsok. Solar ini buat kerja pak buat di truk dan pikap bukan buat jln2 ke mall !!

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Mod enjii... nyebut mod... ingat usia... ingat tekanan darah... ingat rendeman...

Sabar mod... sabar.... :ngacir:
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@ mods enji : couldn't agree more mods.... d sulawesi tengah aj ud sering bgt solar langka... antri solar ud panjang bgt bebarengan ama truk2 material batu.... ngantri berjam2.... dsini beli solar plus jerigen mahh ud biasa... ptugas spbu ga brani ngelarang... ane kl lg urusan logistik aj bagasi blakang bisa2 isi nya 4 galon aqua isi solar... prettt emg logistik kuda laut d indo timur

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DOHC wrote:@ mods enji : couldn't agree more mods.... d sulawesi tengah aj ud sering bgt solar langka... antri solar ud panjang bgt bebarengan ama truk2 material batu.... ngantri berjam2.... dsini beli solar plus jerigen mahh ud biasa... ptugas spbu ga brani ngelarang... ane kl lg urusan logistik aj bagasi blakang bisa2 isi nya 4 galon aqua isi solar... prettt emg logistik kuda laut d indo timur

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Indeed mod klep.

Bahkan di Bpn yg katanya Kota Minjak, ternyata lebih gampang cari minyak nyong2 daripada solar...

Bokap lgs lego semua mobil operasional diesel, ganti Apanja. Sekali langka, naujubile dah mod...

Premium? Siap2 antri minim sejam kl si Kuda Laut lagi nyengir. :frm_bang_head: alhasil, itu Apanja minum RON92 drpd buang waktu di pom bensin kayak penunggu pom.
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madcat015 wrote:
DOHC wrote:@ mods enji : couldn't agree more mods.... d sulawesi tengah aj ud sering bgt solar langka... antri solar ud panjang bgt bebarengan ama truk2 material batu.... ngantri berjam2.... dsini beli solar plus jerigen mahh ud biasa... ptugas spbu ga brani ngelarang... ane kl lg urusan logistik aj bagasi blakang bisa2 isi nya 4 galon aqua isi solar... prettt emg logistik kuda laut d indo timur

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Indeed mod klep.

Bahkan di Bpn yg katanya Kota Minjak, ternyata lebih gampang cari minyak nyong2 daripada solar...

Bokap lgs lego semua mobil operasional diesel, ganti Apanja. Sekali langka, naujubile dah mod...

Premium? Siap2 antri minim sejam kl si Kuda Laut lagi nyengir. :frm_bang_head: alhasil, itu Apanja minum RON92 drpd buang waktu di pom bensin kayak penunggu pom.
Yup setuju om cat,kami di Kalimantan udh biasa yg nama nya ngantri bbm di SPBU bukan cm solar aja bahkan premium aja sering antri,udh Dr taun jebot nama nya pasokan bbm ga pernah lancar,kdng benci juga liat berita TV kl aja yg ngantri bbm di pulau Jawa udh di ekspos sm media,baru juga antri bbm sehari Doank!!!

Coba aja nanti liat si Joko nih yg kata nya kerja kerja kerja bs benahin ga penyakit turun menurun gn.


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Yakin, premium ga akan naik dalam waktu dekat. PDI-P gitu loh...

Jual aset aja lagi :D
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Nightster Guy wrote:Indonesia per kapita brapa ya? Kelamaan dimanja subsidi ya gini dah jadinya.

Negara (maaf) miskin timor leste harga bensin usd 1.28-1.29 (tergntung spbu, yg semuanya swasta perorangan mostly org china daratan dgn pertamina pengecualian). Ron 92.uda ga jual leaded fuel.

Ngga ribut tuh.. oya UMR sini usd 115.00 thok.

tp memang pndidikan n kesehatan gratis di sini plus jaminan sosial buat usia 60 up.
Mod NG, berarti pertamina di timor leste ga jual ron 88 ya? :e-think:


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Tuh kan kutukan dr daerah keluar semua. FAKTA.

Idup jd ngga produktif, belasan jam para supir truk/bus/pikap antri solar, demi spy besok bs narik buat cri nafkah.

Paling asu seasu2nya pas liat berita TV daerah ada wawancara ama kepala pertamiblok yg ngelesnya ala kaset rusak 'langka krn pasokan terlambat dr blaaablabla..' [cencored] kok kronis?!?!

Pemerintah memang GUOBLOK kl soal bbm.

Sori sarkas parah, sumpah muak tiap pulang manado di mana2 spbu macet antrian solar, uda DUA TAUN pak !!

Kami2 yg di daerah ngga kayak anda2 yg di jawa yg (beberapa) msh ribut soal naik bbm. Bagi kami, saking putus asanya, saking letihnya ngantri abadi, kami nyaris uda ga pduli mo naik smpe brapapun (ibaratnya bgitu) asal lancar suplai.

Asal jgn sampe uda naik, tetep langka pulak (?!!?!). DOBEL IDIOT nya dah.
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Nightster Guy wrote:Yg pnting, bagi kami2 di indo timur, naikin ajalah bbm terutama solar kl mau naik, YANG PENTING PASOKAN LANCAR !!

Di manado udah pemandangan biasa selama lbih dr DUA TAHUN blakangan ini kami antri solar dr tngah malam buat dipake bsok. Solar ini buat kerja pak buat di truk dan pikap bukan buat jln2 ke mall !!

PEMERINTAH IDIOT !!!
kepalanya kebanyakan makan om. skrg kan udah ganti, tunggu lah 2-3thn buat prosesnya, itupun udah bagus. Mungkin perlu 5-6thn karena dulu kan udah duduk dilem selama 10thn :big_grin:
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Udah lega.. numpahin amarah yg akumulatif soal pasokan bbm..

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Jambangan wrote: Mod NG, berarti pertamina di timor leste ga jual ron 88 ya? :e-think:


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Turboman wrote:
Jambangan wrote: Mod NG, berarti pertamina di timor leste ga jual ron 88 ya? :e-think:


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Hah ???

Emang namanya masih Timor Timur yaks ?
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Mungkin lebih baik indonesia dipecah2 beberapa negara

Negara kalimantan dan papua, riau, batam akan kaya raya,

Hahahaha

Indonesia p.jawa saja cukup, bercocok tanam saja, kan tanah paling subur disini
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