Butuh saran antara PAJERO DAKKAR sama FORTUNER

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Makin bertanya malah makin bingung hahahaha......
Sy sendiri pakai Santa Fe, bokap dan kakak pakai Dakar dan PJS, saudara sy ada juga yg pakai Fort 2.7 4x4 (versi pertama keluar) dan ada juga yg pakai Fort D4D non VNT.
Mendingan test drive dulu, soalnya selera orang kan beda beda yah, dari segi model, performa, buat modifikasi, depresiasi, ketersediaan ASS, dll.

Terus terang sy tertarik Santa Fe pertama malah dari majalah AB (Judulnya waktu itu Komparasi 3 big SUV : Dakar, Santa Fe & Fortuner D4D) abis itu cari" review di forum forum lokal, sampai pada review di SM. Akhirnya berlanjut pada test drive, dst.

Skarang udah gak pernah beli majalah itu lagi, lebih mantaf baca baca di SM dah :big_peace:
Buat pertimbangan juga, ada Captiva, Trail Blazer.... Nah, selera dah.

Kalau sy sendiri ditanya antara Dakar vs Fort VNT, itu pilihan yg susah. Hal yang paling memberatkan : 4 speed vs 5 speed, cakram blakang pada Dakar, tenaga Dakar, Sun roof..... Cuman kelegaan cabin kok msh pilih Fortuner yah, trus bolongan di kap mesin yg bikin tambah macho. Nah??
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dwi opet wrote:Agan agan saya minta advicenya
saya bingung pilih antara PAJERO DAKKAR sama FORTUNER .
mana yang terbaik dari sisi engine , eksterior, interior dan after servicenya.
Terimakasih
Engine : Performa standart masih menang dakkar, tapi fortuner mesinnya gampang dituning, sama kayak innova diesel. Bisa dapet 200hp++ :mky_02:

Exterior :Ini sih selera pribadi, ane lebih suka fortuner, lebih macho daripada pjs yang tinggi langsing.

Interior :Menurut ane bagusan pjs. Fitur pjs dakkar lebih lengkap daripada fortuner vnt. Fortuner plastiknya agak ala kadarnya. Cuma headroom legaan fortuner soalnya atap pjs itu rendah banget (gara2 sunroof), apalagi di baris ke 2 & 3.

Aftersales service :Dua2nya ada dimana2 sih, jadi seimbang :D
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Oh ya, knp gw tdk nyaranin Pajero, krn bodykit di versi Limited yg bancinya
keterlaluan... (ini subjektif)... Trus headroom sempit krn sunroof, gw yg tingginya 168 cm aja mentok... Trus ruang kakinya yg gk nyaman, Fortuner lebih nyaman menurut gw...
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Wah siap2 dihujat nih.. Imho majalah AB gak segitu parahnya dah, yg jd masalah dia gak berani menceritakan kekurangan mobilnya secara gamblang, ngeri kali ya sama boss2 atpm..
Liat aja test result di AB:
Mazda 6 juara vs camry,teana,sonata
Cx5 juara vs sportage,an crv,xtrail,tucson
Subaru xv juara vs cx5 sport,outlander sport
Fiesta juara vs anjazz,mazda2
Focus juara vs civic,altis
Santa fe juara vs ps dakar, forti vnt
Ps exceed juara vs fortie non vnt
Serie3 baru juara vs c class
Ertiga juara vs avanza/xenia
Civic juara vs imprezza pelan
Yg lain2nya gak hapal...

Rasanya hasil2 itu sama dgn review2 master SM juga dah..imho msh berdasarkan teknis dan value for money gak harus yg mainstream juaranya
Nb: bukan sales AB...
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Ane AB demen baca ulasan mobkasnya terutama rubrik how to buy :mky_02:
Tapi sekarang dah jarang beli majalah gituan sayang duitnya :D
Padahal dulu tiap terbit ane selalu beli dari jaman harganya msh 10 rebu. Jaman2 ane msh kelas 5 SD :D
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Autobild ya...

Dulu wkt masi blm tau apa2 sering beli tuh majalah... Skrg semenjak baca ripiu om stigjay (big thx for om stigjay yg telah menyelamatkan gw dari jurang kenistaan) jd gk beli AB lg... Skrg paling beli Autocar / CTG / Motor...
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ricz wrote:Oh ya, knp gw tdk nyaranin Pajero, krn bodykit di versi Limited yg bancinya
keterlaluan... (ini subjektif)... Trus headroom sempit krn sunroof, gw yg tingginya 168 cm aja mentok... Trus ruang kakinya yg gk nyaman, Fortuner lebih nyaman menurut gw...
Wah jangan yg limited...setuju banget klo tuh bodykit banci, maksa...aib deh
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dwi opet wrote:Agan agan saya minta advicenya
saya bingung pilih antara PAJERO DAKKAR sama FORTUNER .
mana yang terbaik dari sisi engine , eksterior, interior dan after servicenya.
Terimakasih
Kalo interior sih masih lebih lega 42ner, terutama di bangku depan, posisi kaki di PJS mesti selonjor ke depan, di 42ner posisi betis masih bisa agak tegak mendekati spt posisi duduk Innova.

Soal engine sih 11-12 lah, mesin 4D56 Di-D juga udah terbukti tangguh di Triton.

Kaki kaki juga 11-12 scr Triton itu D-Cab yg paling disukai utk medan berat.

kemudahan mencari parts, hampir sama mudahnya lah, ya jumlah toko yg jual parts Toyota masi lebih banyak (kalo di Jkt)

Harga parts, bbrp fast moving parts original si PJS sedikit lebih murah drpd 42ner, kecuali filter solar Dakar lebih mahal drpd D4 D, tapi yg Exceed lebih murah. Filter oli PJS bisa pakai L300 punya, jauh lebih murah.

Suspension travel : PJS lebih panjang travelnya, kalo buat Off Road lebih capable. Kalo buat on road si 42ner sedikit lebih capable, suspensi belakang 5 link, TAPI kinerja suspensi keduanya mudah di upgrade.

Plusnya si Dakar, Matic dah 5 speed & rem belakang dah Disc Brake, tapi 42ner di Thai juga dah 5 sp, mestinya di Indo gak lama lagi akan terapkan juga (mestinya)

Test drive aja keduanya pak.......
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1 lg um turbo, di fortie kaki2 biar enak diupgradenya ke hotbits ya?
kalo dah gitu, dibanding dakkar gimana?
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Isuzu MU7 aja um :mky_01:
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saya malah baru tau ada pajero sport type dakkar :ngacir:
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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evolution21 wrote:1 lg um turbo, di fortie kaki2 biar enak diupgradenya ke hotbits ya?
kalo dah gitu, dibanding dakkar gimana?
Buat 42ner konon juga ada Bilstein / Raw / Rancho / Armada....malah konon OME juga ada

yahhh udah ganti shock masak benchmarkingnya ke suspensi PJS std ? yg boneng azaaaaaaaa :mrgreen:
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Turboman wrote:
evolution21 wrote:1 lg um turbo, di fortie kaki2 biar enak diupgradenya ke hotbits ya?
kalo dah gitu, dibanding dakkar gimana?
Buat 42ner konon juga ada Bilstein / Raw / Rancho / Armada....malah konon OME juga ada

yahhh udah ganti shock masak benchmarkingnya ke suspensi PJS std ? yg boneng azaaaaaaaa :mrgreen:
Suspensinya sama kek Hilux kan? Kalo sama berarti yg branded pasti ada...
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Hilux per belakangnya udah keong apa masih daun? :e-think:
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Hansen wrote:Hilux per belakangnya udah keong apa masih daun? :e-think:
Daun atuhhh
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wahh... trit perang dari dulu masih berlanjut lagi. kali ini di forum suggestion.... :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:




koq belum ada yg nyinggung soal cat kucem yaa............. :ngacir:
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Exterior = menang PJS
Interior = menang Fortie

imo bentuk grillnya lebih bagus yg exceed daripada dakkar :ngacir:
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y_anjasrana wrote: koq belum ada yg nyinggung soal cat kucem yaa............. :ngacir:
Errr.....emang PJS yg cat kusam brp banyak dibanding total populasi PJS baru ?

Kalau cuman 1-2 ya ga bisa dipukul rata dan pembeli bisa minta keleluasaan utk pilih unit

Kalau material quality jok kulit PJS dianggap kurang itu mmg user PJS sendiri juga banyak yg mengakui......

So marilah kira berdiskusi dgn "Common reality" utk type kendaraan yg didiskusikan.............
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jok kulit ane masih bagus soalnya 2 minggu sekali diolesin pelembab :big_weee: cuman setir aja nih yg ada bintik2 putih meskipun dikasi pelembab juga
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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kalau ane rasa kedua mobil ini sama2 bagus.
pjs juga banyak dipake buat pertambangan
kalau mesin d4d ga usa ditanya lagi ketahanannya
masalahnya, agan suka macho apa maskulin?
kalau mau macho pilih fortuner.
kalau mau maskulin pilih pjs.
interior ane blg malah bagus pjs fortuner tll biasa.
kalau urusan sparepart toyota jelas menang, kw1,2,3, ori, oem, ada semua.
mau dimana2 cari juga gampang :big_peace:
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Lapor...

Temen ane baru bungkus Fortie VNT Item TRD AT...

Ane tanya "Ga ambil PJS?"

Dia bilang "Mending fortie, lebih gede..." :big_slap:
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madcat015 wrote:Lapor...

Temen ane baru bungkus Fortie VNT Item TRD AT...

Ane tanya "Ga ambil PJS?"

Dia bilang "Mending fortie, lebih gede..." :big_slap:
Setuju...!!!!
Sama dengan saya... VNT item TRD AT.. lumayan engga pasaran spt warna Putih..
Lumayan enak untuk gas di Tol + di semi offroad (jalan2 engga mulus, turun naik gunung)
Lebih Lega...(dari pjs) itu benar..saya udah bandingkan...
& yang penting Bengkel Resmi Toyota bertebaran disekitar tempat tinggal saya di Bogor
Setidaknya ada 4 Bengkel Resmi merangkap dealer resmi nya..
Semua bisa ditempuh 10-15 menit perjalanan dari rumah..
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madcat015 wrote:Lapor...

Temen ane baru bungkus Fortie VNT Item TRD AT...

Ane tanya "Ga ambil PJS?"

Dia bilang "Mending fortie, lebih gede..." :big_slap:
berarti mata'nya sehat tuh om... :frm_tumbright:
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gedean DAKAR output powernya :big_weee:
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Ya gapapa... :ngacir:
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