Nissan Evalia (NV200) 2012 - PART 01

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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Passenger Cars A(1500cc or less) - Station wagon


Sold : 2006.1
Manufacture : Toyota Motor Corporation
Type : CBA-J210E
Displacement : 1,495cc
Vehicle weight : 1,190kg
Specification : Length×Width×Height: 3,995x1,695x1,705mm
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Test Vehicle Weight : 1,190kg
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Driver's seat 6
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Front passenger's sea 6
21.82 point
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Vehicle weight : 1,250kg
Specification : Length×Width×Height: 4,400x1,695x1,855
Commercial Vehicle、4AT、FF、2/Seating Capacity: 5
Tire Size/Manufacture : (前)165R14-6PR (後)165R14-8PR、TOYO H05
Test Vehicle Weight : 1,250kg

Driver's seat 6
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Front passenger's sea 5
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Masalah selerah memang hak masing masing. Tinggal pilih sendiri.


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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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itu data apa ya? apa data terios di indonesia dan nv200 yang akan masuk di indonesia?
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Kalah ? Maksud lo passenger side scorenya ? Itu karena rush di Jepang ada 2 airbag. Dan NV200 yang di uji airbagnya cuman driver side. Overall sama aja.


Buktinya di Indonesia, rush 2 airbag aja udah berapa duit ? 221 jt ! Dan itupun saya ngak ingat 1 atau 2 airbag.


Gue sih fair aja, saya ngak pernah bilang hasil uji tabrakan rush jelek. Yang sudah pasti memang avanza rangkanya hancur.


Dan tetap fakta juga daihatsu raja hengkang dari banyak negara. Like it or not.

datsu wrote:Toyota

Rush G / Daihatsu be-go
Passenger Cars A(1500cc or less) - Station wagon


Sold : 2006.1
Manufacture : Toyota Motor Corporation
Type : CBA-J210E
Displacement : 1,495cc
Vehicle weight : 1,190kg
Specification : Length×Width×Height: 3,995x1,695x1,705mm
A/T、4WD、Seating Capacity: 5
Tire Size/Manufacture : 215/65R16 98S 、BRIDGESTONE DUELER H/T687
Test Vehicle Weight : 1,190kg
※The test vehicle was selected within concerned model.

Driver's seat 6
33.36 point
(92.6 % of total)
Front passenger's sea 6
21.82 point
(90.9 % of total)

Nissan

NV200 VANETTE DX
Commercial Vehicles - Commercial Vehicles


Sold : 2009.5
Manufacture : Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.
Type : DBF-VM20
Displacement : 1,597cc
Vehicle weight : 1,250kg
Specification : Length×Width×Height: 4,400x1,695x1,855
Commercial Vehicle、4AT、FF、2/Seating Capacity: 5
Tire Size/Manufacture : (前)165R14-6PR (後)165R14-8PR、TOYO H05
Test Vehicle Weight : 1,250kg

Driver's seat 6
33.21 point
(92.3 % of total)
Front passenger's sea 5
21.03 point
(87.6 % of total)


Kalah ama daihatsu... :mky_07:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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NV200 ini posisi nyetirnya kok mirip seperti posisi nyetir truk kalo diliat dari fotonya. SUV yg bakal masuk kemungkinan besar memang murano 3.5L. Model ini sdh didaftarkan TPTnya dan juga mesin 3.5L bisa memanfaatkan IJ-EPA.
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Itu data hasil uji tabrakan rush versi Jepang dan NV200.


rush di Jepang yang di uji 2 airbag. NV200 yang di uji 1. Jadi otomatis untuk driver side scorenya mirip, tapi NV200 passenger side kalah dikit karena ngak ada airbag.


Nanti di Indonesia liat aja, NV200 kalau versi yang ngak ada airbag, toh scorenya sama ama rush. Tinggal lihat selisih harganya.


Untuk versi yang 2 airbag jika ada, tinggal banding ama rush versi paling mahal 221 jt. Eh ternyata baru tau, rush versi paling mahal pun di Indonesia :


1. Airbag cuman 1

2. Side Impact Beamnya di COPOTIN ! Ngak ada !


Padahal udah 221 jt !



Dasar, kerjaan toyota astra lagi ! Biasa, mau cuan gede. Wah kalau SIB udah di copotin, hasil uji tabrakannya udah pasti hancur deh. Paling ngak beda jauh kali ama avanza yang ngak ada SIB.


Buset. Jual mobil 1500 cc 221 jt ngak ada SIB, airbag cuman 1 ?


Cek sendiri di sini :

http://www.toyota.astra.co.id/product/? ... model=Rush


Thanks datsu, saya baru tau rush mahal gitu ternyata side impact door beamnya di copotin ama toyota astra !


Grand Livina aja masih di pasang !

zweifellos wrote:itu data apa ya? apa data terios di indonesia dan nv200 yang akan masuk di indonesia?
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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toyotaman wrote:avanza selama ini laris karena BELUM ada mobil yang SEMURAH dia dengan TIGA baris, mesin LUAR.
Proton Exora Star, 154 juta :mrgreen:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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FortunerMan wrote:
campoeran wrote:eh kl diliat di luar harganya 11-12 ama cx9 kl dimensinya gimana ya
ga jadi 500-600jt donk bisa kena di 700-800jt.......
Nah mendingan Murano deh yg dikeluarin. Ini NV200 hancur bener tampang :mrgreen:
Hmm, Bagusan NV200 laaah dibanding Avanza MkI (bukan yang MkII Loo :) ) :mky_07: :mky_07:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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FortunerMan wrote:
toyotaman wrote:Tapi jika NV200 adalah bikinan toyota, lain lagi kali nada lo ini.....
Nggak juga - mobil buruk rupa ya buruk rupa, mau Toyota mau Porsche. NV200 = jelek.
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Hi all,

Wah seru nih thread-nya ...
Kebetulan, lg mo cari MPV buat gantiin Livina ku yg dah 4 tahun nih ...
Dah liat2 merk lain, Innova, H-1, Serena, dll .... tp krn dua hal penting : kabin luas dan harga, kemungkinan besar bakal pilih NV200 nih..
Keliatannya NV200 memenuhi dua hal tadi... lagian kalo yg masuk memang tipe 1.5 berarti nggak jauh beda dgn Livina yg dipake skrg (1.5 XV A/T)

Td hr ini sempet telp ke Nissan (Bintaro), ktnya yg tgl 27 Sept nanti baru Murano, yg NV200 msh belum tau kapan, apa bener begitu ?
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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livina15 wrote:Hi all,

Wah seru nih thread-nya ...
Kebetulan, lg mo cari MPV buat gantiin Livina ku yg dah 4 tahun nih ...
Dah liat2 merk lain, Innova, H-1, Serena, dll .... tp krn dua hal penting : kabin luas dan harga, kemungkinan besar bakal pilih NV200 nih..
Keliatannya NV200 memenuhi dua hal tadi... lagian kalo yg masuk memang tipe 1.5 berarti nggak jauh beda dgn Livina yg dipake skrg (1.5 XV A/T)

Td hr ini sempet telp ke Nissan (Bintaro), ktnya yg tgl 27 Sept nanti baru Murano, yg NV200 msh belum tau kapan, apa bener begitu ?

NV200 kayaknya pilihan paling oke :)

Kalau tanggal tepatnya tanya aja sama Oom TM :ungg:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Saya liat gbrnya yg disini : http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/nissan-nv200/

Apa yg kyk gini yaa yg masuk sini ?

Atau yg disini :

http://autobuzzi.com/2011-nissan-nv200- ... echnology/

Kapan nih masuknya om ? Mo test drive kalo dah ada nih .... :frm_salut: :frm_salut:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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toyotaman wrote:-cut-

Yang sudah pasti memang avanza rangkanya hancur.


Dan tetap fakta juga daihatsu raja hengkang dari banyak negara. Like it or not.


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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Wow...avansa om VM sudah pake SIB...klo liat dari foto crash test.....alhamdulillah ya...sesuatu banget...(syahrini mode on).... :big_peace:
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abrof wrote:Wow...avansa om VM sudah pake SIB...klo liat dari foto crash test.....alhamdulillah ya...sesuatu banget...(syahrini mode on).... :big_peace:
kapan ane bilang begituu...? :e-think: :e-think: :ungg:
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lha tu foto crash testnya....menandakan pake SIB...klo gak ya hancur...
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Udah pasti tahun depan. Cuman bulan kapan saya ngak tau. Best guess mungkin IIMS 2012 ? Tergantung juga progress upgrade kapasitas pabrik Nissan di Cikampek saat ini kena delay ngak. Karena jika upgrade mereka kena delay, bisa saja NV200 delay.


Karena sekarang mereka udah full capacity. Lihat aja Juke. Saat launch ordernya aja bulan pertama udah +-4000, tapi deliverynya cuman mampu 1000an sebulan belakangan ini. Sampai antriannya panjang.


Ini yang bikin orang nyindir " kok cuman laku segitu ? Belum bisa masuk top 10 ? ". Padahal mereka ngak tau, bukan kustomernya kurang banyak, tapi kapasitas produksinya udah mentok. Seperti restoran udah penuh bangkunya, gimana mau lebih ramai lagi ?


1 lagi point penting : Mobil van sliding door ginian, vs pintu engsel, salah jika hanggap lebar interiornya sama, kalau lebar exteriornya pun sama. Contoh :


Lebar Grand Livina 1690 mm exteriornya. Serena juga 1695 mm. Beda cuman 5 mm doang. Apakah lebar dalamnya sama ? Yang sudah pernah duduk di dalam 2 mobil ini, akan sadar, beda jauh !


Kok bisa ? Kan sama sama +-1695 mm. Menurut saya, ini karena


1. Bentuk badan GL lebih bulat. Jadi dari bawah ke atas lebih banyak curvenya. Memang bikin lebih cakep, tapi akibatnya, interior space otomatis lebih sempit. Seperti ruang bulat vs pure kotak, ruang bulat lebih kecil meskipun lebarnya sama.


Itulah kenapa mobil yang paling lega di Indonesia saat ini semuanya kotak yang katanya " hancur " bentuknya : alphard (hancur juga ternyata tampangnya yah ?), Serena, Elgrand, H1, luxio, Caravel dll.


2. Sliding door ngak ada side trim yang nonggol +- 8 centi ke dalam, seperti mobil pintu engsel. Call it side door armrest ? Yang ada tombol switch untuk buka kaca itu. Kalau NV200, seperti mayoritas sliding door, ngak ada trim yang nonggol masuk banyak. Jadi lebih lega.


Itu trim kiri kanan yang masuk, satu sisi ambil tempat sekitar 8 centi, jadi kiri kanan udah nyita space lebar 16 cm. Jadi mobil seperti GL, avanza yang pintu engsel, interiornya aja udah keambil ruang lebar 160 mm. Mobil sliding door dikit sekali yang kemakan side armrest gitu.


Jadi 1695 mmnya NV200 lebar interiornya bisa saja setara dengan mobil pintu engsel yang lebih besar dimensi extnya. Karena saya ingat, duduk di captain seat Serena, lihat celah antara 2 captain seat, jelas sisa space masih banyak untuk 1 orang dewasa lagi.


Ruang kepala juga pengaruh sense of space. Atap rendah kesannya sempit. Atap tinggi kesannya lega. Yang pernah masuk ke dalam Renault Kangoo pasti tau, tu mobil kan kecil, tapi karena atapnya tinggi banget, masuk langsung berasa lega interiornya.


Jika ada yang ingin lihat, dan kebetulan ke Eropa atau China selain Jepang, sudah bisa lihat NV200 ini. Sayang saya cuman lihat versi 5 seaternya doang, ngak ada waktu untuk hunting versi 7 seatnya.


All I can say is NV200 ini ruang interiornya nyaris sama ama Serena (lah lebarnya aja sama, bentuknya mirip, NV malah lebih tinggi, cuman panjangnya lebih pendek +- 16 centi. Head room lebih lega (Serena tingginya 1815 vs NV 1855 mm).


Berikut saya akan cari laporan test drive versi 7 seatnya dari Eropa, plus berapa photo lagi.

livina15 wrote:Saya liat gbrnya yg disini : http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/nissan-nv200/

Apa yg kyk gini yaa yg masuk sini ?

Atau yg disini :

http://autobuzzi.com/2011-nissan-nv200- ... echnology/

Kapan nih masuknya om ? Mo test drive kalo dah ada nih .... :frm_salut: :frm_salut:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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kalo NV200 dipasarkan dengan harga di bawah 200jt, apakah akan mengganggu penjualan grand livina? :e-think:
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Good Question. Now, anda tanya sendiri, jika anda adalah boss Nissan, is it OK untuk jual NV200 dengan range harga 160-190 jt meskipun GL main di situ juga ?


Efek ke omzet perusahaan akan lebih positive atau negative atau neutral ? Saya punya pandangan sendiri, tapi mau dengar pendapat member lain.


maskopat wrote:kalo NV200 dipasarkan dengan harga di bawah 200jt, apakah akan mengganggu penjualan grand livina? :e-think:
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toyotaman wrote:Good Question. Now, anda tanya sendiri, jika anda adalah boss Nissan, is it OK untuk jual NV200 dengan range harga 160-190 jt meskipun GL main di situ juga ?


Efek ke omzet perusahaan akan lebih positive atau negative atau neutral ? Saya punya pandangan sendiri, tapi mau dengar pendapat member lain.


maskopat wrote:kalo NV200 dipasarkan dengan harga di bawah 200jt, apakah akan mengganggu penjualan grand livina? :e-think:
Itu sama saja seperti memasarkan mobil ini:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Wah kebetulan sekali ortu saya lg nyari kendaraan perang buat ganttin kijang kapsul (th 2000) yg sepertinya sudah waktunya pensiun karena mulai manja dan menghabiskan waktu..

Kalo boleh tau beban max yg bisa ditolerir mobil ini berapa kg ya??soalnya kijang yg dulu itu cukup perkasa buat angkut barang sekitar sebulan sekali 600-900kg bahkan kadang2 dipaksa diatas 1-1,1ton (sampai ban dan fender sisa sekitar 5cm)

Karena ini kendaraan perang pernya pasti per "tumpuk" kan, soalnya di indo yg pakek per gtu tinggal dikit, paling daihatsu ato susuki, kalo inova kemahalan sekalii...masa 200jtan dipake buat angkat2 barang berat doang..hehe
Lagian inova udah terlalu umum ya..
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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Kl set rangenya sama , akan mempengaruhi jelas . tp ttp pangsa pasar sendiri2 ya
ada yg demen mpv ala nv200 ada yg suka tipikal mpv ceper ala GL.
Gue sendiri demen yg spt GL.

Btw ada dua alternatif sptnya
set harga nv200 utk bisa nandingin apanja , tp mgkn speknya di sunat abis2an .
jadi diset antara 170-220jt , jd kl customer pengen fitur ya beli yg topgrade.

Kl diset 200jt ke atas sptnya org akan lbh milih freed .
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datsu wrote:Toyota

Rush G / Daihatsu be-go
Passenger Cars A(1500cc or less) - Station wagon


Sold : 2006.1
Manufacture : Toyota Motor Corporation
Type : CBA-J210E
Displacement : 1,495cc
Vehicle weight : 1,190kg
Specification : Length×Width×Height: 3,995x1,695x1,705mm
A/T、4WD、Seating Capacity: 5
Tire Size/Manufacture : 215/65R16 98S 、BRIDGESTONE DUELER H/T687
Test Vehicle Weight : 1,190kg
※The test vehicle was selected within concerned model.

Driver's seat 6
33.36 point
(92.6 % of total)
Front passenger's sea 6
21.82 point
(90.9 % of total)


Nissan

NV200 VANETTE DX
Commercial Vehicles - Commercial Vehicles


Sold : 2009.5
Manufacture : Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.
Type : DBF-VM20
Displacement : 1,597cc
Vehicle weight : 1,250kg
Specification : Length×Width×Height: 4,400x1,695x1,855
Commercial Vehicle、4AT、FF、2/Seating Capacity: 5
Tire Size/Manufacture : (前)165R14-6PR (後)165R14-8PR、TOYO H05
Test Vehicle Weight : 1,250kg

Driver's seat 6
33.21 point
(92.3 % of total)
Front passenger's sea 5
21.03 point
(87.6 % of total)


Kalah ama daihatsu... :mky_07:
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Re: 27 Sept 2011, NISSAN NV200 akan Muncul di Indonesia !

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toyotaman wrote:Good Question. Now, anda tanya sendiri, jika anda adalah boss Nissan, is it OK untuk jual NV200 dengan range harga 160-190 jt meskipun GL main di situ juga ?


Efek ke omzet perusahaan akan lebih positive atau negative atau neutral ? Saya punya pandangan sendiri, tapi mau dengar pendapat member lain.


maskopat wrote:kalo NV200 dipasarkan dengan harga di bawah 200jt, apakah akan mengganggu penjualan grand livina? :e-think:
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