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Re: Pertanyaan seputar kendaraan Diesel

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Turboman wrote: - Bahan bakar Diesel dgn daya lumas yg baik
pak Turboman,
quote yang diatas maksudnya gimana yah?
apa musti menambahkan aditif ke bahan bakar diesel?
bagaimana dengan solar standard pertamina? apakah memenuhi kriteria diatas?

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imsus2c wrote:
Turboman wrote: - Bahan bakar Diesel dgn daya lumas yg baik
pak Turboman,
quote yang diatas maksudnya gimana yah?
apa musti menambahkan aditif ke bahan bakar diesel?
bagaimana dengan solar standard pertamina? apakah memenuhi kriteria diatas?

:thanks:
Sebetulnya solar sulphur agak tinggi itu daya lumasnya rata2 baik, apalagi ditambah BioDiesel sedikit (Biosolar), hanya saja masalah di lapangan kan suka ada kontaminasi pada solar.

Kalo saya sih biasa rutin campur additive Fuel Conditioner yg juga mengandung zat pelumas.
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Re: Pertanyaan seputar kendaraan Diesel

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bung turbo nanya terus ni nubie.. maklum sudah nungguin anda dari lama akhirnya muncul juga. Maaf kalo bawel

1. apa i20 crdi ada CC nya ? kalo CC dicopot mengugurkan garansi tidak ? Apa dampaknya kalo CC dicopot ? Kalau ganti pipa plong yang diganti dari bagian mana sampai mana ? apakah tidak bisa diusahakan CC tersebut tetap berfungsi normal apabila terus menggunakan full solar ? Kalo full solar tidak bisa apakaha dengan mixing solar pertadex bisa diusahakan dan di perbandingan berapa mixing tersebut berhasil ?
2. apa dampaknya kalo EGR ditutup ?
3. Bisakah beres melakukan 2 hal tersebut ?

Masalah pertanyaan no 2, waktu service ke beres juga dah bilang n kebetulan waktunya ganti udara n solar (kalo gak salah 15K KM), yang artinya filter udara baru harusnya bersih, tapi masih sama juga, 2000 baru narik. Sampe sekarang hal tersebut tidak berubah menjadi lebih parah.

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1. o iya saya pake oli Shell Helix HX7 diesel. Apakah oli ini cocok untuk mesin CRDI ? Adakah oli yang anda sarankan ?
2. waktu masih di jkt mobil ini saya beri aditif solar Marvel Mistery Oil (MMO) beli di ace hardware, sekarang mobil ini di jogja dan kata adik saya di sana gak ada ace hardware. Aditif apalagi yang anda sarankan untuk digunakan ? (Di jogja ada pertadex curah cuman mahalnya minta ampun n dianya anak kuliah)
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Turboman wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
Turboman wrote: - Bahan bakar Diesel dgn daya lumas yg baik
pak Turboman,
quote yang diatas maksudnya gimana yah?
apa musti menambahkan aditif ke bahan bakar diesel?
bagaimana dengan solar standard pertamina? apakah memenuhi kriteria diatas?

:thanks:
Sebetulnya solar sulphur agak tinggi itu daya lumasnya rata2 baik, apalagi ditambah BioDiesel sedikit (Biosolar), hanya saja masalah di lapangan kan suka ada kontaminasi pada solar.

Kalo saya sih biasa rutin campur additive Fuel Conditioner yg juga mengandung zat pelumas.
:thanks: pak turboman....

kebetulan saat ini lagi ada mainan baru... Peugeot 806 HDi :ungg:
sekalian belajar otak-atik diesel yang "sedikit" lebih advance setelah sebelumnya cuman otak-atik diesel truk hino, panther pick up dan forklift :D

untuk aditif, sesekali saya tambahkan redline, sebotol dibagi 7-8 bagian, per bagian diisikan sebelum isi bbm

biasa isi bbm kalo jarum fuel gauge-nya tinggal kira-kira 1/3 s.d. 1/4

kadang sesekali dikasih MGO sebotol (60 ml)

tankinya pug 806 ini lumayan ajib...mobil segitu tapi sanggup telan solar 80anL (kondisi jarum hampir "E" tapi lampu indikator belum nyala), mungkin kapasitas tankinya (dgn cadangan) sekitar 85-90an liter :ungg:

bbm saat ini pakai solar standard, oli pakai shell helix HX7-diesel (10w40), mungkin pak turboman ada rekomendasi oli yg lebih cocok? (dengan budget setara shell helix hx-7)

mau purging tapi belum kesampaian, posisi odometer sekitar 80.000an KM (mobil thn 2001)
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kalo gak salah, full tank si 806HDi ini sekitar 100L... cmiiw... :big_peace:
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maskopat wrote:kalo gak salah, full tank si 806HDi ini sekitar 100L... cmiiw... :big_peace:
jadi penasaran...kapan2 mau isi kalo lampunya dah nyala...tapi takut masuk angin :ungg:
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imsus2c wrote:
maskopat wrote:kalo gak salah, full tank si 806HDi ini sekitar 100L... cmiiw... :big_peace:
jadi penasaran...kapan2 mau isi kalo lampunya dah nyala...tapi takut masuk angin :ungg:
kalo orang yang masuk angin sih gampang ya meneer mods.. tinggal kerok atau minum ramuan anti masuk angin... :ngacir:
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sekalian numpang nanya...rekomendasi kalo mo pasang turbo timer di pug 806 enaknya pakai apa yah? berapa kira2 budgetnya? secara bawaanya ga pake timer...

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nambahin pertanyaan... kl diesel mogok karna solar habis katanya ga bisa langsung isi trus nyalain lg sperti msin bensin...... bener ga tu?????
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maskopat wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
maskopat wrote:kalo gak salah, full tank si 806HDi ini sekitar 100L... cmiiw... :big_peace:
jadi penasaran...kapan2 mau isi kalo lampunya dah nyala...tapi takut masuk angin :ungg:
kalo orang yang masuk angin sih gampang ya meneer mods.. tinggal kerok atau minum ramuan anti masuk angin... :ngacir:
ngapain dikerok...cukup dikocok-kocok pompanya....naah keluar dehh.... :ungg: :mrgreen:
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ak4ng wrote:nambahin pertanyaan... kl diesel mogok karna solar habis katanya ga bisa langsung isi trus nyalain lg sperti msin bensin...... bener ga tu?????
biasanya sih musti di-kentutin dulu... :ungg:
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kalo udah pernah ditanyaain, maaf ya.

bedanya biosolar dengan solar biasa dari segi kualitas apa ya om?
kalo make biosolar (100% tanpa campur solar biasa) apakah masih perlu zat additif lain?

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zweifellos wrote: 1. bedanya biosolar dengan solar biasa dari segi kualitas apa ya om?
2. kalo make biosolar (100% tanpa campur solar biasa) apakah masih perlu zat additif lain?
1. Biosolar ada 2,5% BioDiesel di dalamnya, scr teoritis daya lumas lebih baik dan CN lebih baik sedikittttt........tapi kan yah tahu sendiri kondisi BBM subsidi itu bagaimana.......heheheheheh

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Om turbo, saya udah pake 2x pake STP diesel injector cleaner & Red ex diesel treatment pd panther saya. Hasilnya FC lebih irit & tarikan terasa responsif. Apakah mmg sugesti ato efek dr treatment?
Kebetulan dapet hadiah Redex diesel banyak dr Prestone. Kalo dipake trz menerus tiap mengisi solar 1 botol kira2 ada efek negatif gak?
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Turboman wrote:
zweifellos wrote: 1. bedanya biosolar dengan solar biasa dari segi kualitas apa ya om?
2. kalo make biosolar (100% tanpa campur solar biasa) apakah masih perlu zat additif lain?
1. Biosolar ada 2,5% BioDiesel di dalamnya, scr teoritis daya lumas lebih baik dan CN lebih baik sedikittttt........tapi kan yah tahu sendiri kondisi BBM subsidi itu bagaimana.......heheheheheh

2. Perlu
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BADAK wrote:Om turbo, saya udah pake 2x pake STP diesel injector cleaner & Red ex diesel treatment pd panther saya. Hasilnya FC lebih irit & tarikan terasa responsif. Apakah mmg sugesti ato efek dr treatment?
Kebetulan dapet hadiah Redex diesel banyak dr Prestone. Kalo dipake trz menerus tiap mengisi solar 1 botol kira2 ada efek negatif gak?
bisa sahring om apa itu yang dibold, fungsinya apa, harga berapa dan gimana cara pemakaiannya? thanks ya om.

ikut menunggu juga jawaban om turboman atas pertanyaan om badak.
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Yg dibold yg mana neh om, koq gak kliatan? :e-think:
Redex saya dpt hadiah dr prestone jd gak tau harganya. Karena ada banyak, iseng2 saya coba ke mbl probadi. Ini botol kecil cmn 50ml, ditulis fungsinya:
- reduce fuel consumption
- combat corrosion and wear
- refuces foaming for faster fill
- cleans & maintain injector
- reduces emissions
Efek yg saya rasakan mmg lebih irit & tarikan lbh responsif. Makanya saya berencana mencampurkannya tiap isi solar full tank. Cmn takut ada efek negatif thd injector..
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ak4ng wrote:nambahin pertanyaan... kl diesel mogok karna solar habis katanya ga bisa langsung isi trus nyalain lg sperti msin bensin...... bener ga tu?????
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BADAK wrote:Yg dibold yg mana neh om, koq gak kliatan? :e-think:
Redex saya dpt hadiah dr prestone jd gak tau harganya. Karena ada banyak, iseng2 saya coba ke mbl probadi. Ini botol kecil cmn 50ml, ditulis fungsinya:
- reduce fuel consumption
- combat corrosion and wear
- refuces foaming for faster fill
- cleans & maintain injector
- reduces emissions
Efek yg saya rasakan mmg lebih irit & tarikan lbh responsif. Makanya saya berencana mencampurkannya tiap isi solar full tank. Cmn takut ada efek negatif thd injector..
hahaha kelupaan ngeboldnya om. :big_peace:

maksudnya STP diesel injector cleaner & Red ex.

kalo STP diesel injector cleaner gimana om? :thanks:
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@pak pellos: fungsi dikemasan hampir sama, tp quantity nya lbh banyak. harga jg lbh mahal sekitar 30rb.
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