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btw knp si fortie + ipah ga dipasang vnt nya sperti hilux??? biar performanya ga malu2in amat........
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Ntar kalo di pasang VNT..trus orang komplain lain lagi.."Knapa ipah skr ngak bisa minum solar pertamina..apa maksud toyota ??!!" Gitu engkang..
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vote42ner wrote:Ntar kalo di pasang VNT..trus orang komplain lain lagi.."Knapa ipah skr ngak bisa minum solar pertamina..apa maksud toyota ??!!" Gitu engkang..
lha hilux aja mau dikasi solar eceran..... ms fortie g bs???
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Hilux pake solar eceran?! :big_slap: Yup, bisa K4ng. Siapa bilang gak bisa. Perkara si Hilux masi sehat apa kagak setelah setaun dicekokin solar abal2, itu perkara lain.... :big_weee:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Hilux pake solar eceran?! :big_slap: Yup, bisa K4ng. Siapa bilang gak bisa. Perkara si Hilux masi sehat apa kagak setelah setaun dicekokin solar abal2, itu perkara lain.... :big_weee:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Hilux pake solar eceran?! :big_slap: Yup, bisa K4ng. Siapa bilang gak bisa. Perkara si Hilux masi sehat apa kagak setelah setaun dicekokin solar abal2, itu perkara lain.... :big_weee:
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Gitu2 Ak4ng kesayangannya om BADAK ama mods klep loh....................... Image
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wkwkwkwk
klo beneran ketemu mod klep kaya nya bakal dipentungin camshaft 2 biji................. persis ky nick nya mod klep= DOHC = dobel overhead camshaft = camshaft 2 biji diatas kepala
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doq wrote:wkwkwkwk
klo beneran ketemu mod klep kaya nya bakal dipentungin camshaft 2 biji Image
spertinya ada emot dr forum sebelah ni...... btw apa susah masangin VNT pd mobil yg mesin serupa??
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hehehehe... :upss:
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ak4ng wrote:
doq wrote:wkwkwkwk
klo beneran ketemu mod klep kaya nya bakal dipentungin camshaft 2 biji Image
spertinya ada emot dr forum sebelah ni...... btw apa susah masangin VNT pd mobil yg mesin serupa??
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Haissss....

Susah? Jelas bagi TAM y gak sulit K4ng. Tapi jualan mobil gak seserhana jual pisang goreng yang besok sore bisa suka2 dia mo ganti jualan soto. Banyak faktor yang dipertimbangkan oleh produsen saat menyematkan fitur baru pada mobil mereka, K4ng. Evaluasi, riset, survei, uji coba dulu dan sebagainya.

Sering, udah lewat semua tahapan itu pun tetep aja di mata konsumen fitu2 itu akirnya dianggap useless, aneh, norak, gak perlu, terlalu canggih, gak user friendly, gak sesuai peruntukan, gak sesuai sikon, dan sebagainya, K4ng. Contoh kasus di Indo dulu, Charade Turbo dan Nissan Cefiro udah membuktikan itu. Ato hasil baca2 forum Bimmers, fitur i-Drive BMW yang sering diplesetin jadi idiot-drive hehehe....
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ya jual dua versi aja atw ga limited edition with VNT........ kan lumayan tu buat nambah imagenya yg boyot..... smisal macem PS.... ada yg turbo biasa and turbo luarbiasa........... :mky_03:
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Knapa apanja gak dipasangi turbocharger, biar tambah kenceng.
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BADAK wrote:ak4ng mode: ON
Knapa apanja gak dipasangi turbocharger, biar tambah kenceng.
ak4ng mode: OFF.
ada koq dak K3VET................... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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Pertanyaannya, K4ng....

Berapa persen sih populasi pembeli Innova yang pake Ipah buat kebut2an hingga mereka ngarepin si Ipah ini bertenaga powerful? Mostly user Ipah saat ini udah puas ama performa dia. Mereka, para konsumen MPV, ngarepin mobil yang nyaman, lega, ada bagasi luas, bisa nyambi ngangkut barang, AC dingin sampe belakang, as simple as that, K4ng.

Berapa sih populasi konsumen, dari nyaris 800.000 unit (CMIIW) mobil terjual di Indo taun lalu, yang hobi cuap2 kritis soal Ipah under-powered kayak kita2 di SM ini hehehehe....
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Nightster Guy wrote:Image

Pertanyaannya, K4ng....

Berapa persen sih populasi pembeli Innova yang pake Ipah buat kebut2an hingga mereka ngarepin si Ipah ini bertenaga powerful? Mostly user Ipah saat ini udah puas ama performa dia. Mereka, para konsumen MPV, ngarepin mobil yang nyaman, lega, ada bagasi luas, bisa nyambi ngangkut barang, AC dingin sampe belakang, as simple as that, K4ng.

Berapa sih populasi konsumen, dari nyaris 800.000 unit (CMIIW) mobil terjual di Indo taun lalu, yang hobi cuap2 kritis soal Ipah under-powered kayak kita2 di SM ini hehehehe....
jdi semua MPV diesel boyot semua yah.......
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IMO, faktor tenaga mobil adalah faktor NOMOR KE SEKIAN bagi sebagian (sangat) besar konsumen Indo saat mutusin beli suatu tipe mobil tertentu, K4ng.
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Nightster Guy wrote:IMO, faktor tenaga mobil adalah faktor NOMOR KE SEKIAN bagi sebagian (sangat) besar konsumen Indo saat mutusin beli suatu tipe mobil tertentu, K4ng.
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Sama, power adalah faktor nomor sekian. Ane pribadi selalu mengedepankan image dari suatu merk dan tipe, K4ng, kalo besok2 uda kaya dan bisa jadi kolektor hehehehe.... :mky_01:

Untuk mobil operasional saat ini mah, yang penting masih SUV, ngegelinding, kaki mesin AC sehat, onderdil gampang dan masuk akal, cukuplah. Gak milih2 merk.

Power? Emang SUV or MPV mo dibawa lari berapeeeeeeeeeeeeeee? :big_weee: Demen kebut2an pake mobil power gede? Buy a sedan, dude.... Fisika gak pernah boong.
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ak4ng wrote:
BADAK wrote:ak4ng mode: ON
Knapa apanja gak dipasangi turbocharger, biar tambah kenceng.
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ada koq dak K3VET................... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
kenapa apanja K3VET gak dijual di indonesia...? emangnya susah kalo TAM masang turbo di mesin-nya ?

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Nightster Guy wrote:Image

Pertanyaannya, K4ng....

Berapa persen sih populasi pembeli Innova yang pake Ipah buat kebut2an hingga mereka ngarepin si Ipah ini bertenaga powerful? Mostly user Ipah saat ini udah puas ama performa dia. Mereka, para konsumen MPV, ngarepin mobil yang nyaman, lega, ada bagasi luas, bisa nyambi ngangkut barang, AC dingin sampe belakang, as simple as that, K4ng.

Berapa sih populasi konsumen, dari nyaris 800.000 unit (CMIIW) mobil terjual di Indo taun lalu, yang hobi cuap2 kritis soal Ipah under-powered kayak kita2 di SM ini hehehehe....

ahh siapa blg ipah underpower.... yg nyetir nya itu yg error mahh... :mky_04: :mky_04: :mky_04: :mky_04:
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kayanya yang dibahas di thread ini ataupun mesin D4D di indonesia itu ke fortuner, bukan innova. CMIIW

btw fortuner yang lebih laris itu yang mesin bensin atau diesel sih? trus kalo yang bensin itu pasti 4x4 atau ada 4x2 nya? :thanks:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Sama, power adalah faktor nomor sekian. Ane pribadi selalu mengedepankan image dari suatu merk dan tipe, K4ng, kalo besok2 uda kaya dan bisa jadi kolektor hehehehe.... :mky_01:

Untuk mobil operasional saat ini mah, yang penting masih SUV, ngegelinding, kaki mesin AC sehat, onderdil gampang dan masuk akal, cukuplah. Gak milih2 merk.

Power? Emang SUV or MPV mo dibawa lari berapeeeeeeeeeeeeeee? :big_weee: Demen kebut2an pake mobil power gede? Buy a sedan, dude.... Fisika gak pernah boong.
secara center of gravity...sedan jelas lebih unggul, stabilitasnya lbh cocok untuk speed dibanding MPV...adalah salah kaprah jika membeli sebuah MPV jika objektifnya speed. Tapi realita di indonesia...sebagian besar orang punya mobil hanya 1 alias mbl semata wayang...dr situ maka banyak orang2 berekspektasi macam2 dr mobil semata wayangnya itu, banyak yg pengen mobilnya bisa sebagai transporter dan bisa merangkap sebagai mobil balap untuk pelepas adrenalin, pokoknya all in one deh,hehehe....

makanya wajar lah kalo di indonesia, meski mobil pengangkut barang atau penumpang, tetap banyak saja orang2 yg lbh terfokus ttg power & top speed nya...padahal fokus utamanya adalah daya angkutnya :D

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