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Re: Pajero sport vs fortuner

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Nightster Guy wrote:
poeticmind wrote:tetep aja jemb... secara design, PS masih jauh lebih diminati ketimbang fortie. fortie dilirik karena itu toyota... meski harus diakui fortie jauh lebih bagus penjualan nya.

coba fortie dikasih badge nya daihatsu... let say, apa laku?
Mmmmm..

Untuk SUV 7 seater masak masih Fortie y om? males liat data Gaikindo nih hehe.. Tapi kusus di Surabaya, sepengamatan saya, PS mulai membengkak dan keknya udah mulai seimbang nih, walau launching jauh mundur dibanding Fortie..
setau saya sih masih fortie, tapi ntah kalo dilihat per daerah ya... misal utk bbrapa daerah kalimantan, kata seorang teman saya yg seliweran semua PS utk unit barunya... kecuali bos2nya, pake Land Rover..

tapi kalo emang bener PS udah diatas fortie, ya baguslah... paling ga harga 2nd nya bisa cukup oke.
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ZombiEE wrote:Nah...kalo saya meliat nya lain bang...mnrt saya secara fit and finish dan built quality kalau diliat kasat mata fortie lebih bagus....tetapi kalau masalah design...itu masing2 punya mata lah:)
Kalau misalkan fortie direbadged daihatsu...wah....itu ane tak pikirkan......:)
itu ane setuju... secara nutup pintu saja fortie lebih mantep. tapi secara design bentuk, fortie jauh kalah jemb... bentuknya udah terlalu tua, dan yg menjadi kesalahan paling fatal adalah design interior yg ga jauh beda sama innova, terutama di dashboard.
tapi secara built quality, ane akuin... fortie jauh lebih berkualitas. sayangnya, konsumen ga peduli soal ini jemb... kecuali jenis2 orang peot kayak pak andy1800, punya fortie sama punya kijang kapsul ga ada bedanya... yg penting tahan banting, bisa lari maksimal 60km/jam udah bagus...sama anak2 tetangga bisa ngikut + maen bola selama perjalanan.
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Re: Pajero sport vs fortuner

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Cek Gaikindo ah, pnasaran PS vs Fortie.

Orang Indo kan cepet bosen, om2? Brapa sih yang kayak anda2 ini yang menguliti habis sebuah mobil dari semua aspeknya saat mo beli mobil baru?

Yang penting model cakep terbaru, image merk njamin, bengkel ada (semua ini uda dipenuhin ma PS) plus menkeu setuju, bungkussss..
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ehem ehem om ane vote for PS DAKAR


































































lebih vote lagi LC PRADO :big_slap: :big_slap:
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LC prado, beda kelas... tapi okelah... kalo gitu saya juga mendingan pilih the Real Pajero...

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poeticmind wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Nah...kalo saya meliat nya lain bang...mnrt saya secara fit and finish dan built quality kalau diliat kasat mata fortie lebih bagus....tetapi kalau masalah design...itu masing2 punya mata lah:)
Kalau misalkan fortie direbadged daihatsu...wah....itu ane tak pikirkan......:)
itu ane setuju... secara nutup pintu saja fortie lebih mantep. tapi secara design bentuk, fortie jauh kalah jemb... bentuknya udah terlalu tua, dan yg menjadi kesalahan paling fatal adalah design interior yg ga jauh beda sama innova, terutama di dashboard.
tapi secara built quality, ane akuin... fortie jauh lebih berkualitas. sayangnya, konsumen ga peduli soal ini jemb... kecuali jenis2 orang peot kayak pak andy1800, punya fortie sama punya kijang kapsul ga ada bedanya... yg penting tahan banting, bisa lari maksimal 60km/jam udah bagus...sama anak2 tetangga bisa ngikut + maen bola selama perjalanan.
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Re: Pajero sport vs fortuner

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Loh?

Kok bole Prado?
Saya tetep PS Dakar! PS kan cakep, ini loh fotonyaaaaaa, om FMEAKD....

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Biasa2 aja oom nighster kalo di mata nubie.....sorry...not my cup of tea.
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Toyota land cruiser VS Land rover +JEEP + Mercedez masih lebih Reliable Toyota bro ..... :big_peace:
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ZombiEE wrote:Biasa2 aja oom nighster kalo di mata nubie.....sorry...not my cup of tea.
Yup, definitely.

Karena semua kembali pada preferensi dan kecenderungan masing2, bro. Yang suka Landy gak bakal suka Jeep, demikian juga dengan G-Klassers, LC'ers, dll.

Kalo saya suka semua sebenernya. Sampe sekarang juga hormat banget ma FJ40. Landy seri III, W460-461 (say no to W463 hehehe..), sampe SJ410.

Cuman, rasa suka itu ada top prioritynya, dan itu Jeep, bagi saya. :)
solar_kerosen wrote:Toyota land cruiser VS Land rover +JEEP + Mercedez masih lebih Reliable Toyota bro ..... :big_peace:
TLC, yup. Mulai 40, 55, 60, 70. 80? Included. Workhorses sejati. Reliability TLC paling harum di medan separah apapun.

Tapi, karena saya seneng mobil yang punya track record history panjang, dan faktor2 lain, Jeep tetap no 1 secara personal subyektif bagi saya hehehe....

BT PS dan 42ner yukkkk....
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tapi di test oleh top gear waktu test range rover, tlc 70, sj, yang menang malah range rover yah... itu semuanya mobil tua lho...
sampe si clarksson bilang, "the unreliable car is the reliable car"... kira2 gitu deh... :e-think:
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maskopat wrote:tapi di test oleh top gear waktu test range rover, tlc 70, sj, yang menang malah range rover yah... itu semuanya mobil tua lho...
sampe si clarksson bilang, "the unreliable car is the reliable car"... kira2 gitu deh... :e-think:
Mmmmm..

Ujian sesungguhnya di lapangan, selama belasan taun, IMO bro. :) Bukan ujian ala JC..
Mobil perangnya pemberontak Libya, rata2 TLC 70 ma dobelcab Hilux.
Freeport = TLC 70 juga. Reputasi nyata di lapangan udah top banget si 70 series ini.

Kalo yang jadulnya sih gak usah ditanya: FJ40. Salah 1 jip paling badak, paling tangguh, dan paling teruji yang pernah lahir dalam sejarah otomotif kususnya dunia 4x4.

Jyaaaaaah, iki lak trit'e PS vs Fortie tho y.... Maap2..
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Berarti yg menang TLC FJ40..........
Tul ga......?????
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ak4ng wrote:Berarti yg menang TLC FJ40..........
Tul ga......?????
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Mitsubishi Pajero Sport versus Toyota Fortuner, om ak4ng :big_peace:
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@Nightster Guy: Kalo mobilnya pemberontak Afghanistan apa om? :ungg:
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Yup, BTT. Bingung..

Cari data penjualan PS vs Fortie di Gaikindo, kok gak kluar data y? Ada petunjuk? Thanx..

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Fortuner for :
- Interior volume
- Resale value

Pajero Sport for :
- Off Road ability (suspension travel-nya panjang)
- Ride quality
- High speed ability
- Harga fast moving parts

IMHO :
Buat stop & go masih enakan 42ner drpd PS since gigi2 PS itu panjang, tarikan awal-nya cenderung agak lemah, di atas 30 km/jam baru tarikan kenceng.

Volume ruang depan PS yg lebih kecil drpd 42ner, posisi kaki saat nyetir jadi spt sedan.

Buat harga fast moving parts since si PS banyak yg sama dgn Strada Triton maka harganya sgt affordable, spt filter solar jauh lebih murah drpd filter solar D4 D.

Buat konstruksi chassis since si PS share platform ama Strada Triton dimana Strada Triton udah terbukti ketangguhannya di lapangan.

42ner punya cousin, Hi Lux yg mana skg adalah Pick Up paling laris di Thailand juga terbukti ketangguhannya.

Demikian yg oweh tahu, silahkan utk tambahkan info2 yg lain.
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itu kalo ga salah ditest buat medan offroad.. memang range rover menang. but di medan berbatu kalo ga salah TLC yg menang, range rover keteteran waktu.
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poeticmind wrote:itu kalo ga salah ditest buat medan offroad.. memang range rover menang. but di medan berbatu kalo ga salah TLC yg menang, range rover keteteran waktu.
Temen saya barusan selesai kontrak kerja di dealer Toyota Arab Saudi. Skarang SA di Ford Jakarta. Dia bilang TLC buat kerja badak2an di Arab, includ 200 Series. Yang Rover (trutama Range) buat boss2nya hehehe.. Kalah kalo dibanting2.

Teruji oleh waktu dan tempaan 'hidup', TLC.
Kalo Jeep kesukaan ane mah, hehe, tukang begaya di mall.. :big_peace:

Ada yang bisa ngasih link majalah yang ngebahas komparasi PS vs Fortie gak y? AutoB dan sbagainya.. Thanx..
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berarti di dalam kota memakai pajero sport atau fortuner itu sebenernya salah kaprah ya
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ilhami wrote:berarti di dalam kota memakai pajero sport atau fortuner itu sebenernya salah kaprah ya
TEPAT. TEPAT SEKALI.

Liatlah orang Jepang or Amrik yang udah JAUH lebih cerdas dalam nentuin pilihan tunggangannya, bro. Liat kota2 besar di Amrik : Mostly sedan semua. Yang berkeluarga ya station. Ke rural areanya: SUV. Ke Texas? Nyaris pikap/dobelcab semua.

SESUAI ma kebutuhan sehari2 mereka dan medan yang dilakoni.
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