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4Hlock= perbandingan gigi normal.. cm diflock tengah membagi tenaga 50:50 depan banding belakang sama....
4Llock= perbandingan gigi lebih kasar dr normal.... buat oprut ini si..... depan belakang sama 50:50... cmiiw.....
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ak4ng wrote:@zwei: yg 4wd cm yg type v 2.7L bensin...... T-case nya cm ada pilihan 4H,4H-lock,4L-lock.... g bs 2wd
ok om akang. itu bisa diakali biar bisa 2WD om akang?
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kaos_oblong wrote:just info (or rumor ?)

Januari 2012, atoyot akan jual Fortuner baru dengan mesin kapasitas 3L

Harga dan bentuk barangnya masih gelap.

Sepertinya sdh gak kuat lagi digempur terus menerus dan porsi kue nya mengecil.

Dengan kapasitas mesin 3L (3000 cc) apakah peminum solar atau pertamax ? Kalo diesel dicangkokin turbo VNT bakalan dahsyat tenaganya.
Sebenernya kuat2 aja sih...tapi lebih banyak pilihan lebih bagus.

Top 20 penjualan nasional 2011:

No. Merek & Model Unit Model/Kategori
1. Toyota Avanza 126.357 MPV
2. Daihatsu Xenia 51.191 MPV
3. Toyota Kijang Innova 40.964 MPV
4. Mitsubishi Canter 6-ban 32.058 Truk
5. Suzuki Carry Futura PU 27.426 Bak Terbuka
6. Daihatsu Grand PU (1.3 & 1.5) 20.458 Bak Terbuka
7. Mitsubishi L-300 PU 19.067 Bak Terbuka
8. Nissan Grand Livina (1.5 & 1.8 ) 18.709 MPV
9. Toyota Rush 17.415 SUV
10. Daihatsu Terios 15.837 SUV
11. Honda Jazz 15.576 Sub-kompak
12. Toyota Yaris 14.356 Sub-kompak
13. Suzuki APV 13.864 MPV
14. Toyota Fortuner (4x2 & 4x4) 11.698 SUV
15. Mitsubishi Pajero (4x2 & 4x4) 10.912 SUV
16. Nissan March 10.453 City Car
17. Toyota Dyna 6-ban 10.247 Truk
18. Honda CR-V (4x2) 9.566 SUV
19. Honda Freed 8.295 MPV
20. Daihatsu Gran Max Minibus 7.586 MPV

sumber:http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2011/10 ... nesia.2011
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bukannya itu rumor dari dulu ya?? kenyataannya malah hilux yg asalnya 3.0L jadi 2.5L.... :mky_07:
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Lho?masih diatas pajsport ya....saya pikir dah berhasil disalip
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ZombiEE wrote:Lho?masih diatas pajsport ya....saya pikir dah berhasil disalip
biar disalip spertinya ente kudu beli jemb...... :mky_03: :mky_03:
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ak4ng wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Lho?masih diatas pajsport ya....saya pikir dah berhasil disalip
biar disalip spertinya ente kudu beli jemb...... :mky_03: :mky_03:
Kayanya ada sales mitsubishi in disguise.....
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zweifellos wrote:
ak4ng wrote:@zwei: yg 4wd cm yg type v 2.7L bensin...... T-case nya cm ada pilihan 4H,4H-lock,4L-lock.... g bs 2wd
ok om akang. itu bisa diakali biar bisa 2WD om akang?
ya beli yg type G 2.7 lha....... kl mau 2wd.....
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ak4ng wrote:
zweifellos wrote:
ak4ng wrote:@zwei: yg 4wd cm yg type v 2.7L bensin...... T-case nya cm ada pilihan 4H,4H-lock,4L-lock.... g bs 2wd
ok om akang. itu bisa diakali biar bisa 2WD om akang?
ya beli yg type G 2.7 lha....... kl mau 2wd.....
maksudnya 4WD tapi bisa 2WD kang. ya kaya banyak SUV2 yang lain, 4WD nya itu nyala kalo diaktifin, kalo ga diaktifin tetap 2WD.
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fortie g bs.... entah kenapa ga ada 2H nya....... g sperti PS maupun everest....
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Ya sama kaya Landcruiser Prado, Full time 4WD.
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forti yang keluaran pertama kl ga salah varian 4WD nya bisa diset ke 2WD.. pas facelift tahun 2008 forti jadi full time 4WD..

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Nggak tuh bos...dr awal 2.7V udah Full-time 4WD. Ane inget kepengen juga dulu thn 2006, cuman bedanya 60 jt kl gak salah...sayang juga hehe
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emang ngaruh cukup signifikan ga sih penggunaan 4WD (4H) ke konsumsi bahan bakar? kira2 perbedaan kasarnya konsumsi bahan bakar kalo pake 2WD dan 4WD berapa ya (asumsi yang lain2 serupa)? ini kita bicara buat SUV kelas bawah ya kaya fortuner, PS, everest. :thanks:
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zweifellos wrote:emang ngaruh cukup signifikan ga sih penggunaan 4WD (4H) ke konsumsi bahan bakar? kira2 perbedaan kasarnya konsumsi bahan bakar kalo pake 2WD dan 4WD berapa ya (asumsi yang lain2 serupa)? ini kita bicara buat SUV kelas bawah ya kaya fortuner, PS, everest. :thanks:

pasti pengaruh den, sama kaya Taft GTL dengan GT 4WD , konsumsi bahan bakarnya beda karena di taft GT ada bonggol transfer case plus gardan depan berpenggerak
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zweifellos wrote:emang ngaruh cukup signifikan ga sih penggunaan 4WD (4H) ke konsumsi bahan bakar? kira2 perbedaan kasarnya konsumsi bahan bakar kalo pake 2WD dan 4WD berapa ya (asumsi yang lain2 serupa)? ini kita bicara buat SUV kelas bawah ya kaya fortuner, PS, everest. :thanks:
pasti berpengaruh tapi signifikan atau nggak mungkin perlu dibuktikan dengan road test :D
namun dr hasil baca2 buku dan nyimak di forum2 lain, saya dapatkan angka2 powerloss dr beberapa format sistem drive train

1. FF/MR/RR ; losses +/- 15%
2. FR ; losses +/- 20%
3. 4WD system (posisi 2WD) ; losses +/- 25%
4. 4WD system (posisi 4WD) ; losses +/- 35%

semakin besar losses tentu efisiensi semakin menurun

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itu cm kerugian/ losses mekanikal aja???
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ak4ng wrote:itu cm kerugian/ losses mekanikal aja???
angka2 diatas itu refer to mechanical losses
tapi efeknya ke output mesin dr mesin yang efektif bisa sampe ke roda penggerak (wheel drive).

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kl yg mr(mid engine,rwd) sama rr (rear engine,rwd) apa bedanya??
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FortunerMan wrote:Nggak tuh bos...dr awal 2.7V udah Full-time 4WD. Ane inget kepengen juga dulu thn 2006, cuman bedanya 60 jt kl gak salah...sayang juga hehe
thanks atas koreksinya..
kirain dulu sempat ngga fulltime 4wd..
ak4ng wrote:kl yg mr(mid engine,rwd) sama rr (rear engine,rwd) apa bedanya??
kl mr posisi mesin ada di depan roda belakang, contoh: audi r8 dan kebanyakan model ferrari dan lamborghini..

kl rr itu posisi mesin di belakang roda belakang, contoh: vw beatle, porsche 911
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gen11 wrote:semoga interior ama jok nya senyaman fortie/innova.....sikatttt


hehehehehehe :big_peace:
menurut ane sama aja... fortie sama innova juga ga nyaman2 banget kok... malah kalo ane bilang, lebih ga capek joknya PS ketimbang fortie/innova buat jarak jauh...
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poeticmind wrote:
gen11 wrote:semoga interior ama jok nya senyaman fortie/innova.....sikatttt


hehehehehehe :big_peace:
menurut ane sama aja... fortie sama innova juga ga nyaman2 banget kok... malah kalo ane bilang, lebih ga capek joknya PS ketimbang fortie/innova buat jarak jauh...
ya iya lah...joknya sih gak capek om.. mau ente bawa nyupir 100 ribu km non stop... yang capeknya yang nyupirnya.... :ngacir:
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gak lah pat... kan fun to drive? *maksa mode:on
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tergantung selera om.. kalo mau fortie yg ente dapat tampang gagah tenaga pas2an tapi bisa dimainin setingannya kok biar wusss!!

kalo ps speed standarnya udah jago plus tampang macho

secara ane tetep milih fortie diesel ga tau kenapa. :wkkk:
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boypiliang wrote:-cut-

secara ane tetep milih fortie diesel ga tau kenapa. :wkkk:
Entah kenapa, kalo diesel, ane tetep milih Diesel yang ini om...

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