Proton Exora - PART 01

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Wow kalo fitur2nya segitu banyak dan harganya di bwh 200 juta sih mungkin yaa lumayan laku. Tp modelnya mirip ya ma grandis.
Proton harus bangun image dulu neh di Indo. Apalg Indo sering konflik ma Malay. Makin susah aja d.
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makanya kalo malay pengen produknya diterima dng baik di indo jangan sering2 mangkal diperbatasan NKRI deh,hehehe... :big_weee:
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Kalau mau ngetop model iklannya pake makcik manohara :big_weee:
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Tapi tetap gw akui >> proton salah satu proyek mobil nasional suatu negara yg cukup berhasil, meskipun awalnya jiplak sini sono tp sekarang sudah lebih besar andilnya dalam R&D mobil baru mereka dg mesin lotus.

Yg gw bingung Indonesia sourcenya banyak dan sudah pabrikan assembly sampai u/ produksi export segala, kenapa smp sekrang bisa blum punya mobnas yg murah & bagus dg feature berlimpah ... dibidang otomotif sementara ini Indo tetap jadi jajahan jepang.

... memprihatinkan... hiks... :(
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buat gw, cuek bebek ama pandangan org ttg merek yg gw pake
tp yg jd mslh, klo ntar jalan2 trus ada org timpukin batu/baret bodi mbl... ini nih yg bikin pusing :ngacir:


pdhl kl liat perbandingan spec/fitur vs harga... ini mbl bener2 worth banget
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ada, timor... tapi stuck. :mrgreen:

eh, apa kabar timor? hehe!

@captivated : dilemparin di jalan? hahaha rasanya ga segitunya bro... gue lebih pengen jitakin mahohara... :mrgreen:
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thanks for both links, bro nidaz... and welcome to SM. :)

proton satria ngingetin saya sama suzuki amenity/eleny, hanya lebih modern. hehe..
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maxx wrote: Weh.. kok jd ngelantur nih.. he he he... btw.. ada yg seru, seakan pada mo memboikot produk proton >> bisa lihat di http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/xml/200 ... and.Livina
Iya, gw kadang heran, gak seneng dikit mau boikot ini itu.
Misalnya, gak seneng ama us, ngancam boikot produk us dan sekutunya... Emang bisa?
Dari windows, intel, boeing, militer sampe satelit palapa punya siapa, dll? belon termasuk hak patent yg dipegang us. Itu belon termasuk "sekutu us" misal, jepang, uni eropa, canada, dsb...
Sanggup gak nonton TV, maen internet, nelpon, dll? Kalo cuman gak ke McD ato KFC sih gak efek...

Trus ini ama malaysia...

Ntar what next? China? Soal Uighur?
Impossible, hampir semua produk yg ada disekeliling kita made in China or at least secara gak langsung made in China, atau secara sangat tidak langsung made in China.

Biar produk tsb made in Indonesia, tapi mesin or spare partnya made in China.
Ngomong kata beli nasgor dari abang2, biar kata, semua bahan2 plus gerobaknya lokal, tetep aja, misal kaos atawa sendal yg dipake abangnya made in China, dll.... :mrgreen:

Kok ngelantur... :mrgreen:
back to topic... menurut gw, exora bagus, worthed to buy, masalahnya cuman ketersediaan spare part yg masih jd pertanyaan, terutama spare part slow moving part n spare part body. Kan nggak lucu, misal kalo accident, trus spare partnya musti indent dari m'sia.
Kalo soal resale value, sepanjang produsennya ada policy semacam "buy back guarantee", kayaknya gak terlalu masalah.
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spareparts ga masalah, bro... saya pernah ngobrol2 sama org proton, oke katanya. soal resale guarantee mereka juga jamin...
jika ada spareparts yg tidak ada disini, mereka order dalam 3hari saja. hehe!

secara servis mereka, saya kira sangat bagus. :)
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poeticmind wrote:spareparts ga masalah, bro... saya pernah ngobrol2 sama org proton, oke katanya. soal resale guarantee mereka juga jamin...
jika ada spareparts yg tidak ada disini, mereka order dalam 3hari saja. hehe!

secara servis mereka, saya kira sangat bagus. :)
Mungkin untuk pengguna yang tinggal di kota besar seperti jakarta servis tidak terlalu masalah, tapi belum untuk orang yang tinggal di daerah. CMIIW
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kalo janji2 semacam ini biasanya baru terbukti dgn berjalannya waktu. Waktu baru mao mulai dagang sih mereka bisa ngomong apa aja, tapi nanti setelah jualan mulai seret, nah baru terbukti omongannya bisa dipegang ngga?
Sebenernya gak bisa disalahin juga sih kalo mereka bersikap spt itu, lha buat apa dagang kalo jarang ada yg beli......... :mrgreen:

Soalnya udah banyak bukti kasus2 kaya gini misal Renault, Jaguar, Chrysler, dll.....mereka2 itu kalaupun masih exist sampe sekarang tapi semakin melempem (jualan produk lama, produknya itu2 aja alias model2 lain gak dimasukkin, dealer makin berkurang, part2 biasa aja musti inden, dll) ......dan kemungkinan besar bisa hengkang sekalian dari sini. :mrgreen:
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Risol1 wrote:kalo janji2 semacam ini biasanya baru terbukti dgn berjalannya waktu. Waktu baru mao mulai dagang sih mereka bisa ngomong apa aja, tapi nanti setelah jualan mulai seret, nah baru terbukti omongannya bisa dipegang ngga?
Sebenernya gak bisa disalahin juga sih kalo mereka bersikap spt itu, lha buat apa dagang kalo jarang ada yg beli......... :mrgreen:

Soalnya udah banyak bukti kasus2 kaya gini misal Renault, Jaguar, Chrysler, dll.....mereka2 itu kalaupun masih exist sampe sekarang tapi semakin melempem (jualan produk lama, produknya itu2 aja alias model2 lain gak dimasukkin, dealer makin berkurang, part2 biasa aja musti inden, dll) ......dan kemungkinan besar bisa hengkang sekalian dari sini. :mrgreen:
s.part renault, jagz, chrysler.. etc.. product eropa emang agak ribet krn belinya jauh. Tapi kalo part dr malay harusnya ga terlalu bermasalah... cuma di sebelah aja dan selama proton exist di Indo gw rasa juga ga terlalu masalah u/ kesediaan part.. krn nih mobil pasti banyak digunakan di malay.. pastinya mereka menyediakan secara lengkap disana. apalagi kalo u/ mesin ... tuh mesin digunakan pada banyak type mobil proton .. irit stock s.part ... one for all :)

anyhow, ... PEI akan diuji purna jualnya .. krn setiap produk pasti ga ada yg sempurna.. pasti adaaaaa aja kurangnya... kalau ASS PEI bagus... dipastikan proton akan exist dan dibeli.
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poeticmind wrote: @captivated : dilemparin di jalan? hahaha rasanya ga segitunya bro... gue lebih pengen jitakin mahohara... :mrgreen:
mana manohara-nya? sini dgn awak kita pusing2 :drinking:

jgn dijitak lah boss, dielus2 donk... kan cewe cakep :cupss:
btw, udah mulai tenar jg doi dsini, pdhl ga tau bener apa ga ceritanya :e-naughty:
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poeticmind wrote: @captivated : dilemparin di jalan? hahaha rasanya ga segitunya bro... gue lebih pengen jitakin mahohara... :mrgreen:
mana manohara-nya? sini dgn awak kita pusing2 :drinking:

jgn dijitak lah boss, dielus2 donk... kan cewe cakep :cupss:
btw, udah mulai tenar jg doi dsini, pdhl ga tau bener apa ga ceritanya :e-naughty:
tergantung bos.. "jitakin" nya pake paa :D
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gw prnh dgr cerita kl proton melakukan strategi dumping spy bs bersaing ama merek2 laen yg lbh dulu eksis
jd proton yg dijual di indo (seblm pajak) lbh murah drpd di malaysia
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Captivated wrote:gw prnh dgr cerita kl proton melakukan strategi dumping spy bs bersaing ama merek2 laen yg lbh dulu eksis
jd proton yg dijual di indo (seblm pajak) lbh murah drpd di malaysia
itu yg gw juga denger... ga ada specdown .. dg harga jual yg lebih murah dari pada di negara asalnya.
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dumping bukannya justru mahalin hrg jual produknya di negera asalnya ya
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Captivated wrote:
poeticmind wrote: @captivated : dilemparin di jalan? hahaha rasanya ga segitunya bro... gue lebih pengen jitakin mahohara... :mrgreen:
mana manohara-nya? sini dgn awak kita pusing2 :drinking:

jgn dijitak lah boss, dielus2 donk... kan cewe cakep :cupss:
btw, udah mulai tenar jg doi dsini, pdhl ga tau bener apa ga ceritanya :e-naughty:
bah... cakep tapi bermasalah... wakakaka!

@GTR : artinya sengaja dinaikin kan? saya ga gitu ngerti, tapi dari sisi mana? pajak setelah OTR or harga dasar...?
taktik dumping ini sekarang justru indonesia lagi kena claimed di 20 negara, karena menjual barang ekspornya lebih murah dibanding di indo sendiri... dan hebatnya, kita punya regulasi anti dumping lho... (aneh... padahal indo ngelakuin juga...)

actually sistem dumping agak ga bagus buat hubungan antar negara, karena sifatnya melecehkan suatu negara dengan goal menghancurkan pasar saingan nya.
dan, setau saya jika terjadi masalah tidak bisa diselesaikan secara personal/company meeting... tapi antar government. repot banget...
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iya seinget ogut, dumping itu bukannya mirip di jepang gitu, harga mobil/electronic dalem negeri nya sengaja diset lebih mahal daripada jual buat negara lain...cmiiw
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GTR wrote:iya seinget ogut, dumping itu bukannya mirip di jepang gitu, harga mobil/electronic dalem negeri nya sengaja diset lebih mahal daripada jual buat negara lain...cmiiw
Apakah exora product dumping malay di indo?
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yg ngomong gini org malay sndiri waktu gw di KL :ngacir:
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GTR wrote:iya seinget ogut, dumping itu bukannya mirip di jepang gitu, harga mobil/electronic dalem negeri nya sengaja diset lebih mahal daripada jual buat negara lain...cmiiw
sepertinya begitu, meski belum ada real angka yg jelas soal dumping di jepang. but, US sudah punya Anti-Dumping Agreement. khususnya utk barang2 jepang. hehehe!

btt, kalo malay menggunakan dumping juga... ga heran harga proton disini termasuk murah... :)
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Captivated wrote:yg ngomong gini org malay sndiri waktu gw di KL :ngacir:
Hmm... berarti malay mau merusak pasaran harga mobil2 di indo ya... well.. yg kena produsen japs dan eropa seh.. indo sendiri blum punya merk mobil sendiri :)
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Tapi bukannya proton adalah mobil rakyat di negeri jiran? Setahu saya proton itu harganya sangat terjangkau bagi pakcik dan makcik di sono. Kalau dumping justru di negara mereka harusnya dimahalin. :e-think: