E-Fuel = akankah phase out mesin piston dibatalkan ?

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Re: E-Fuel = akankah phase out mesin piston dibatalkan ?

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b0ku wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:36

hati2x lah sama merek china :big_bored:
lagian klo ada duit ngpn beli merk cungko,sudah modelnya aneh semua,
ada yg mirip bajaj tapi harga sultan,

anak milenial tuh emang aneh aneh aja,gak ada macho machonya,

kuliah pake fortuner pajero kan keren,auto ciwi ciwi nempel,


ane aja ganti brembo ada paket spy murah piringan pake bs racing,

ogah,

mending mahal tapi hati nyaman,
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Ibet wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 3:57
darrelund wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:22 bukan cuma grgr e-fuel aja

tp emg pindah total ke EV di 2030 ga realistis, itu eropa jg ud pada minta mundurin deadline

dia org yg atur, dia org jg yg ngeluh :big_biglaugh:
kaget tiba - tiba digempur EV murah dan oke dari Tiongkok,
trus bisnis ni tanah sendiri jadi kena dampak wkwk

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bener :big_biglaugh:

tesla aja sampe banting harga gegara kena gempur

lagian jg um di bbrp negara emg penjualan EV mulai stagnan tidak sesuai harapan

i5 & i6 aja di amrik gitu" aja penjualannya :big_biglaugh:

memang masih banyak yg wait & see

ah lagian jg harga batere mahal, imo lebih masuk akal model nyewa kyk NIO sebulan 3-4 jtan. tar bisa tinggal pilih mau bayar rangkap / nyicil per bulan

on par lah jadiin kuda fortuner pake dex sebulan :big_biglaugh:

daripada bayar segelondong 400 jt kan :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:16
bener :big_biglaugh:

tesla aja sampe banting harga gegara kena gempur

lagian jg um di bbrp negara emg penjualan EV mulai stagnan tidak sesuai harapan

i5 & i6 aja di amrik gitu" aja penjualannya :big_biglaugh:

memang masih banyak yg wait & see

ah lagian jg harga batere mahal, imo lebih masuk akal model nyewa kyk NIO sebulan 3-4 jtan. tar bisa tinggal pilih mau bayar rangkap / nyicil per bulan

on par lah jadiin kuda fortuner pake dex sebulan :big_biglaugh:

daripada bayar segelondong 400 jt kan :big_biglaugh:
jangan2 nanti kebalik EV justru berjayanya di emerging market karena chinese small EV di sono jelas dipertanyakan aspek safety dll nya :mky_07: kalo di emerging market nego nego sama pemangku kebijakan jg gol :mky_07: mana lbh banyak orang susahnya jelas jualan gimmick ngecas murah masih laku.

orang europ mana relate gimmick EV ngecasnya murah. parkir aja mahal kadang kg mikir mau punya mobil enak jalan kaki nyepeda sama naik bus :mky_03:
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Tapi pusing juga nih selisih pertalite pertamax sekarang 4000 rupiah. Bisa saja wacana Pembatasan jalan lagi
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darrelund wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:16
bener :big_biglaugh:

tesla aja sampe banting harga gegara kena gempur

lagian jg um di bbrp negara emg penjualan EV mulai stagnan tidak sesuai harapan

i5 & i6 aja di amrik gitu" aja penjualannya :big_biglaugh:

memang masih banyak yg wait & see

ah lagian jg harga batere mahal, imo lebih masuk akal model nyewa kyk NIO sebulan 3-4 jtan. tar bisa tinggal pilih mau bayar rangkap / nyicil per bulan

on par lah jadiin kuda fortuner pake dex sebulan :big_biglaugh:

daripada bayar segelondong 400 jt kan :big_biglaugh:
KATANYA di ameriki produksi naek tapi di showroom jadi stock mati :mky_03:

lagian kalo liat angka jualan di chinanya mah yang gede cuma BYD sampe jd no1 merek2x laen mah babak belur semua ud saya bilang kalo dah gini ntar jadi samsung VS apple karena orang cenderung cari aman ditambah ya gitu2x doank HP kan juga gitu2x doank ud 10thn ini :big_bored:

btw yang masuk indo juga rata2x merek ev yang jualannya seret :mky_03:

byd pun dimana2x jualan seret karena saya liat angkanya ternyata angka mereka itu noting cuma beritanya keknya kesannya mereka hebat bener......... :big_biglaugh:
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ilhami wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:06 Tapi pusing juga nih selisih pertalite pertamax sekarang 4000 rupiah. Bisa saja wacana Pembatasan jalan lagi
selama presiden amerikanya biden mah bakalan naek mulu ud keliatan sekarang patternnya democrat berkuasa minyak naek ntar republik naek minyak turun karena democrat itu CULT anti minyak.......

mereka gak peduli loe jd gembel yang penting minyak ilang dari muka bumi :big_bored:
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newrubble wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 15:09 per judul
makin ke thirdworld (makin ke dansar peradaban) jawabannya makin positiv

makin ke atas peradaban jawabannya adalah makin negativ dlm arti efuel (kata efuel alliance) intinya cuma bridging agar existing production tools bisa lbh dr skadar BEP

kan target 2035 mobil-mobil pake tungku cuma 2% dr total produksi (jepang n zhonghua juga punya deadline sama)

dimanapun disini smua fuel dispenser udah tertulis fosilfri /fossil-free selain yg biogas atau 100% bio
Bocoran masa depan dari om NR :mky_02:

Antara bocoran masa depan. Atau masa depan dirancang buat ke arah situ :big_biglaugh:
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KielConstantine wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:55

Bocoran masa depan dari om NR :mky_02:

Antara bocoran masa depan. Atau masa depan dirancang buat ke arah situ :big_biglaugh:
cuma dirancang ke arah situ dan berasa berkuasa bakalan bisa padahal di lapangan ud kacau balau........ :big_bored:
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Sekarang ribut efuel nanti pas dah keluar juga emang bisa beli?
Skala ekonomi nya ga tercapai,musti jual mahal
Sapa mau beli kalo 1 liter 100rb
Paling juga buat isi supercar doang

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/03/iveco ... -for-cars/

“If you have a Ferrari or if you drive your Porsche Turbo once a weekend, you’re not going to care whether a liter costs €5 ($5.40) or €8 ($8.70), but that is not a fuel for the future,” the German boss told reporters at Iveco’s HQ in Italy.

Rakyat jelata mah pilihan nya jalan kaki atau naik ev
Mending dukung nikuba tuh biar bisa pake air kencing aja buat jalanin mesin
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Zaxis wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:40 Sekarang ribut efuel nanti pas dah keluar juga emang bisa beli?
Skala ekonomi nya ga tercapai,musti jual mahal
Sapa mau beli kalo 1 liter 100rb
Paling juga buat isi supercar doang

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/03/iveco ... -for-cars/

“If you have a Ferrari or if you drive your Porsche Turbo once a weekend, you’re not going to care whether a liter costs €5 ($5.40) or €8 ($8.70), but that is not a fuel for the future,” the German boss told reporters at Iveco’s HQ in Italy.

Rakyat jelata mah pilihan nya jalan kaki atau naik ev
Mending dukung nikuba tuh biar bisa pake air kencing aja buat jalanin mesin

OHH tenang om tinggal bakar minyak lagi dikira sekarang mahal gara2x mau abis minyaknya kagak noh kebanyakan di cekek produksinya sama explorasinya juga banyak di hambat sama aktfis kerjaannya si biden sama kroco2xnya yang penting agenda dia jalan bodo amat loe jd gembel sambil ngdrugs di pinggir jalan.........:upss:

gara2x mereka minyak mahal tinggal bilang tuh kan minyak mahal murahan EV padahal mah kerjaan mereka juga bikin minyak mahal wong dipersulit mulu dengan alesan lingkungan.........

nih liat aja di list ini ada kan prediksi minyak abis :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

ud 2023 belom jadi mad max aja kite...... :big_weee:

Here are the Eco-disasters for the last 50 years that never happened.
1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life (data and graph)
10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes (additional link)
12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend (additional link)
13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015 (additional link)
27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 1990s
33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!
37. 2005: Manhattan Underwater by 2015
38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill All the Fish
41. 1970s: Killer Bees!

Update: I’ve added 9 additional failed predictions (via Real Climate Science) below to make it an even 50 for the number of failed eco-apocalyptic doomsday predictions over the last 50 years.

42. 1975: The Cooling World and a Drastic Decline in Food Production
43. 1969: Worldwide Plague, Overwhelming Pollution, Ecological Catastrophe, Virtual Collapse of UK by End of 20th Century
44. 1972: Pending Depletion and Shortages of Gold, Tin, Oil, Natural Gas, Copper, Aluminum
45. 1970: Oceans Dead in a Decade, US Water Rationing by 1974, Food Rationing by 1980
46. 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018
47. 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020
48. 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past
49.1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming
50. 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter

ntah kenapa jadwal kiamat sama minyak abis di mundurin mulu...........

terus katanya UK bakalan di dasar laut tapi keknya baek2x aja tuh :big_think:

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b0ku wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 23:05
vanosz wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 22:55
beuhhhhh

suara lengkingan + fun drive gak bisa kalahin ane punya,


rekor sirkuit itu,ini raja vtek kik in yo ke kinian,


cobain dulu pake yg ane punya,


esmilo mah gak usah diliat,tar di gas bunyi kriet kriet,

itu era zaman ane sekolah,

pernah ane minta beliin ortu,tp ortu ane dompetnya masih bokeh,


ane sangat jarang pake,ini aja oli belum ganti udah lewat 6 bulan,udah seminggu nih gak idup panasin,

terakhir ke brakeshop ukur piringan rem muat gak ukuran mentokin velg,

malah mau keluarin mesin boxer udah 3 minggu gak gerak,udah lama gak rasain mobil bom bom car,THE ART OF DRIVING,


maklum harian ane pake diesel sih,gubrak gabruk ngasssspolllll,sudah nyemplung ke got,di tabrak bajaj,bodi pintu karatan ditabrak emak emak bawa avanza,
tetap kencang irit hemat awetttt,biosolar,

stronggggg,
BARU Kriet2x om jazz ane kalo nikung kenceng suaranya duk duk duk duk kenceng lagi..... masih misteri itu suara apaan mungkin suara dudukan plat nomer atau barang2x di bagasi pada geser gak jelas deh tiap di cariiin gak ketemu :big_biglaugh:
nah itu mknya mending sekalian piara raja oonda,kencangnya dapat nikungnya juga dapat,

gw lepasin dengan iklas,depe gocap

jaz dug dug dug,dari generasi awal sampe vtec awal iklan citi di rante,

ane punya idsi cbu thailand taun 2004,jarang dipake 4 taun jual kilometer 26 ribu,ane pake crv gen 2 manual harian,ini mobil enak,klo matik oonda mah kelaut aja ceburin,
palg cvt klo dibilang kencang fun driv,

beuhhhh bocil


piara jaz cuma menang selap selip jalan rame macet merayap,mesin lumayan walo vtec ktolong bodi kecil aja yah betilah sama veloz,irit sih kagak,wong 1:8,