Xtrail Vs CRV Vs Fortuner

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plasworld88 wrote:
Risol1 wrote:apalagi dengan hadirnya harrier yang baru sebentar lagi (totally redesigned).

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O ya? udh ada foto blm bro, harrier (atau RX lexus?) yg udh redesigned? katanya mrk cuma pk nama Lexus doang nantinya alias gak ada lagi nama harrier? bener gak sih?
ini sih cuma spekulasi pribadi aja karena kan biasanya siklus harrier kan 5 tahunan:
1. harrier gen1: dari 1997-2002/2003
2. harrier gen2: mustinya dari 2003-2008/2009

harrier gen3 kemungkinan besar bakalan masuk ke amerika (pake nama lexus RX) pertengahan tahun ini (2008) tapi untuk tahun model 2009
tapi ini spekulasi pribadi lho.....gambar yg model baru sih belom pernah liat :D

yup bener, nama "harrier" gak akan digunakan lagi even di jepang sekalipun
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ZombiEE wrote:crv vs xtrail vs fortuner --> murano vs pathfinder vs harrier vs navara?hehehehe
untuk CUV mewah mungkin begini:
lexus RX vs Acura MDX vs Infinity FX....cuma acura MDX bangkunya 3 baris :?
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GTR wrote:kalo Touareg vs Pajero vs Landcruiser, cukup fair?
touareg kayaknya bodinya engga sebesar TLC deh dan juga lebih ke medium SUV dengan "rasa" sporty bukan seperti TLC yang rasa "offroad"

pajero juga bodinya gak segede TLC dan mesinnya juga gak ada yang V8

IMHO, kayaknya yang paling pas itu Toyota land cruiser Vs Nissan Patrol Vs Chevrolet Tahoe Vs Ford Expedition Vs maybe Mercedes GL
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maksudnya bukan "rasa" nya , tapi performance off-roadnya yg diadu.
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Risol1 wrote:
GTR wrote:kalo Touareg vs Pajero vs Landcruiser, cukup fair?
IMHO, kayaknya yang paling pas itu Toyota land cruiser Vs Nissan Patrol Vs Chevrolet Tahoe Vs Ford Expedition Vs maybe Mercedes GL
Keluarga keluaran Land Rover kok ga ikutan? Kan dari dolo terkenal penghasil mobil off road jempolan tuh......
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boleh juga
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hehehehe! sori saya mau OOT lagi... kali aja om €lj€p€ mau tuker tambah... :D

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imsus2c wrote:
Risol1 wrote:
GTR wrote:kalo Touareg vs Pajero vs Landcruiser, cukup fair?
IMHO, kayaknya yang paling pas itu Toyota land cruiser Vs Nissan Patrol Vs Chevrolet Tahoe Vs Ford Expedition Vs maybe Mercedes GL
Keluarga keluaran Land Rover kok ga ikutan? Kan dari dolo terkenal penghasil mobil off road jempolan tuh......
IMHO. Kalo Landrover ikut, pasangan yg pas tuh Toyota FJ Cruiser vs Nissan Xterra Vs Baby Hummer (H3) Vs Landrover. Semuanya kelas gajah bunting disengat lebah.. :D
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yg menang Xterra kali ya:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto ... 025_suvoty

bahkan review tsb included Ford Explorer, Hummer H3, Hyundai Tucson, Jeep Commander, Kia Sportage, Mercedes-Benz ML, Mercury Mountaineer, Pontiac [cencored], Range Rover Sport, Subaru Tribeca, and the Suzuki Grand Vitara.
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uch wrote: IMHO. Kalo Landrover ikut, pasangan yg pas tuh Toyota FJ Cruiser vs Nissan Xterra Vs Baby Hummer (H3) Vs Landrover. Semuanya kelas gajah bunting disengat lebah.. :D
landrover apa dulu nih? LR2? LR3? Range Rover? Defender? :D
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hehehehe ini emang thread all about Versus ya...

sekalian mau tanya, kemaren2 baca di kompas... ada org yg punya fortuner complain, kalo di tol tenaganya ngemposs di RPM atas, sewaktu ditanya di BeRes, emang begitu... karena sengaja di limit.
maksudnya apa ya? teorinya artinya limiter bisa dibuka kan?
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poeticmind wrote: sekalian mau tanya, kemaren2 baca di kompas... ada org yg punya fortuner complain, kalo di tol tenaganya ngemposs di RPM atas, sewaktu ditanya di BeRes, emang begitu... karena sengaja di limit.
Mesin2 ber ECU umumnya memang ada limiter RPM bila jarum tacho masuk redzone, tapi kalau dia merasa underperfom / terpotong tenaganya walau masih di bawah redzone itu berarti ada yg ngga beres.

Utk Fortuner bisa refer ke mobilnya oom Satiragi (fortuner enaknya diapain boss), kalau ketemu di tol mending minggir aza deh......heuheuheuehueh :e-clap:
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limit hanya di :
redzone; atau
speed 180kmh (JDM)
speed 250kmh (europe)
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makin lama makin canggih aza bahasannya..heheheheh
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oh begitu... oke thanks utk penjelasan nya... bisa jadi masukan juga. hehe! dan ingat2 kalo ketemu fortuner lagi speeding di tol kasih jempol keatas ...
gitu ya>!?! hahahahahaha!
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buat yg lagi nyari SUV, referensi berikut bisa jadi pertimbangan...
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2007/rec.htm

nilai scoring untuk tiap jenis SUV, ada di file berikut:
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/20 ... rec4wd.pdf
=== 2ZR-FXE, L15Z1, K24Z9, MZR L 2.0, L15A7, 3.6L V6, 2.5 LCV, 2.4L G4KC, 2.0 TDI, K3-VE, 1.8 Nu MPi, 1.4L, 2TR-FE, QR25DE, SR20DE, 2.6 V6, W124 M103, 1.8 7K, 1.3 2E
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FortunerMan wrote:Toyota Landcruiser, Cadillac Escalade, Land Rover Defender, Mercedes Benz G-Class adalah contoh SUV tradisional ladder frame, dan ciri2nya umumnya ya lebih kuat dan lebih simpel - tapi monocoque bisa juga dibikin kuat kalo tujuannya untuk di banting banting.

Tapi yg jelas kalo CUV kaya CR-V, X-Trail, Captiva sih tidak akan mampu mengalahkan kekuatan Hilux-based Fortuner di jalan hancur atau kekuatan kaki2 (harga sebanding), imbalannya Fortuner tidak ringan dan segesit ke tiga CUV tersebut. Yg mana yg memenuhi kebutuhan anda, ya silahkan pilih - kalo lain dr pilihan saya bukan berarti anda kurang "pintar" memilih mobil.

Susah sih, saya milih CR-V atau Fortuner dibilang kurang pintar dan "gampang dibodohi", kalo Captiva baru pasti pintar! :)) Padahal saya perlu yg berwibawa dan tough car buat jalan2 jelek, tapi OK juga buat jalan raya dan resale value OK...
nimbrung neh om kayanya seru om 42nerman vs iyan neh.
menurut gw memang body fortuner gede, tapi kl di liat dari hasil test drive autobild, hasil akselerasi captiva a/t dikisaran 13detikan, n di lain edisi pernah di test drive fortuner di kisaran 12,5detikan. kl di lihat dari angka itu captiva ga lebih gesit dari fortuner. tapi kl di compare dengan x-trail n CR-V2.4 memang dua kendaraan terakhir lebih kencang.
di autobild edisi keberapa gw lupa pernah ada compare captiva vs CR-V vs X-trail vs Escape hasil akhir penilaian :
1. CR-V
2. Captiva
3. X-trail
4. Escape

terus terang gw belum pernah test drive fortuner n captiva, kl dari hasil test drive captiva di bilang ke unggulannya kabinnya hening, material interior bags, n eksterior ok. tapi kl masalah suspensi dibilangnya agak keras n ga terlalu empuk n konsumsi BBM boros.
malah di bilang suspensi new CR-V lebih empukan daripada captiva.
buat om iyan itu dari majalah autobild bukan pendapat pribadi.
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poeticmind wrote:hehehehe! sori saya mau OOT lagi... kali aja om €lj€p€ mau tuker tambah... :D

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Jadi ditengah ada berita + tayangan, disebelah kanan ada GPS.... Kalau banjirnya masih mungkin ditembus.. saya teruskan. Tapi kalau sayang mobilnya, siap cari alternate route.
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remedusakti wrote: nimbrung neh om kayanya seru om 42nerman vs iyan neh.
menurut gw memang body fortuner gede, tapi kl di liat dari hasil test drive autobild, hasil akselerasi captiva a/t dikisaran 13detikan, n di lain edisi pernah di test drive fortuner di kisaran 12,5detikan. kl di lihat dari angka itu captiva ga lebih gesit dari fortuner. tapi kl di compare dengan x-trail n CR-V2.4 memang dua kendaraan terakhir lebih kencang.
di autobild edisi keberapa gw lupa pernah ada compare captiva vs CR-V vs X-trail vs Escape hasil akhir penilaian :
1. CR-V
2. Captiva
3. X-trail
4. Escape

terus terang gw belum pernah test drive fortuner n captiva, kl dari hasil test drive captiva di bilang ke unggulannya kabinnya hening, material interior bags, n eksterior ok. tapi kl masalah suspensi dibilangnya agak keras n ga terlalu empuk n konsumsi BBM boros.
malah di bilang suspensi new CR-V lebih empukan daripada captiva.
buat om iyan itu dari majalah autobild bukan pendapat pribadi.
CR-V dan X-trail termasuk soft roader... lebih on-road wise
Escape in between
Captiva dan Fortuner masih true SUV... more off-road wise... a little compromise for on-road use.

kalau harga jual khan pasti Fortuner = CR-V
X-trail.. akan keluar baru 2008
Escape lumayan
Captiva masih baru sekali ya.... belum ada bayangan...
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Escape itu pake Mazda 6 platform...jadi sebenernya sedan berbentuk SUV aja, alias not an off-roader. Captiva pake General Motors Theta crossover SUV platform, bukan off roader juga. Lebih nyaman/gesit ala sedan, but not as tough dibandingkan Hilux-based Fortuner atau Ranger-based Everest...
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masing2 ada kelebihan dan kekurangan deh...tergantung dari kebutuhan TS nya yah mnrt wa..kalo sering keluar masuk kebon yah fortie..walo x-trail 4wd masi bisa ladenin..tapi kalo buat ajrut2..lkeqnya travel suspensi fortie ga bakalan mentok de..anymore suggestion?
soal empuk sih saya rasa paling empuk x-trail..lbh empuk dari crv deh pastinya...cuman lbh limbung juga akibat empuk nya itu...
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€lj€p€ wrote:
poeticmind wrote:hehehehe! sori saya mau OOT lagi... kali aja om €lj€p€ mau tuker tambah... :D

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hehehee... engga lah.... saya setia sama yang sekarang saja... yang baru tidak ada Lift KIt Calmini nya.... heheeheee... Kemarin baru tukar tambah HU standard (Double Din JVC) dengan TV Touch Screen (USB + SD) yang kacangan merk Symbion... (pokoknya yang paling murah)... Karena saya butuh berita + tayangan kalau sedang musim banjir. Tambah lagi Sub-woofer (copotan).. yah lumayan lah...
Jadi ditengah ada berita + tayangan, disebelah kanan ada GPS.... Kalau banjirnya masih mungkin ditembus.. saya teruskan. Tapi kalau sayang mobilnya, siap cari alternate route.
kemaren baru liat XL7 di autoshow.....wah setir dan dashboardnya "GM" banget sehingga sepertinya "suzukinya" udah engga keliatan lagi......bagusan Grand Vitara masih ada benih suzukinya :D
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Turboman wrote:
poeticmind wrote: sekalian mau tanya, kemaren2 baca di kompas... ada org yg punya fortuner complain, kalo di tol tenaganya ngemposs di RPM atas, sewaktu ditanya di BeRes, emang begitu... karena sengaja di limit.
Mesin2 ber ECU umumnya memang ada limiter RPM bila jarum tacho masuk redzone, tapi kalau dia merasa underperfom / terpotong tenaganya walau masih di bawah redzone itu berarti ada yg ngga beres.

Utk Fortuner bisa refer ke mobilnya oom Satiragi (fortuner enaknya diapain boss), kalau ketemu di tol mending minggir aza deh......heuheuheuehueh :e-clap:
Gw juga baca tuh, denger2x mesinnya ada masalah dari pabrik seperti defect, cuman Toyota ngga mau ngakuin.

Kalo soal mesin Fort bener tuh refernya ke Om satiragi wekekek... Sangar :mrgreen:

BTW XL7 udah terlalu American style yah bro
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Halah, mbl gw dibilang sangar, bikin malu aja nih.

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