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^
wah PJ maupun MJ diganti klo emg mesin ud di modif..
temen ud nyaranin port & polish.. kira2 jadi 2 hari.. biaya 500rb..
btw klo port & polish CC klo ga salah bisa nambah ya?
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WUUEEEYYYY..

jd rame ni threat bro holy..kuliah sbuk euuyyy...jd jarang mampir kmari..

@bro nyoman,,cc mah ga nambah klo maen porting..ntu cuma memperlancar aliran gas bhn bkr doang om...
@bro davy
manteb jg om..shogun ente maknyos tu..
tes gnt karbu d..ane pake karbu king jd gokil larinya..ga boros2 bgt ko..asal yg ori..
ane msi dpt 35 kilo bwt seliter premium..tmbus 135 tp msi bs tambah c..gw pake cdi dual band..blom gnt switch..
btw maen di bandung lwnnya mio bore up mlu dong..hweeee..

smlm shogun gw biz kalah sm mio ni..eh pas gw prhatiin paking bloknya tbellll bgttt..tutup klepnya panjanggg bgttt..gtwnya mio bore up..jd minder..hehe..

bro holy pa kbr????????
mizz u so.. :cupss:
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NYoman wrote:^
wah PJ maupun MJ diganti klo emg mesin ud di modif..
temen ud nyaranin port & polish.. kira2 jadi 2 hari.. biaya 500rb..
btw klo port & polish CC klo ga salah bisa nambah ya?

waduh..knp pas mau dimodif aja bro??mending skalian..naekin PJ,MJ trus ganti knalpot deh..

asik deh lari nya..hehehe..

yup porting polish biasa nya 2 hari..klw harga bervariasi..

salah..porting polish bukan nambahin CC..cm menyempurnakan jalur bahan bakar..in maupun out..

efek yg paling kerasa..lari jd tambah greng...tp bensin tetep irit..karna jalur nya udah halus smua

ibarat nya..1 tetes bensin biasanya utk 1 meter..nah klw udah porting polish..

1 tetes bensin bs utk 2 atw 3 meter..gt lah bro..

biasa nya udah porting polish..ga ganti PJ<MJ lari nya udah beda bgt..apa lg di naekin PJ,MJ nya

tp baek nya klw ganti MJ,PJ..dioptimalkan dg ganti knalpot freeflow..biar setingan gampang dapet nya.. :big_smoking:
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malmsteen wrote:WUUEEEYYYY..

jd rame ni threat bro holy..kuliah sbuk euuyyy...jd jarang mampir kmari..

@bro nyoman,,cc mah ga nambah klo maen porting..ntu cuma memperlancar aliran gas bhn bkr doang om...
@bro davy
manteb jg om..shogun ente maknyos tu..
tes gnt karbu d..ane pake karbu king jd gokil larinya..ga boros2 bgt ko..asal yg ori..
ane msi dpt 35 kilo bwt seliter premium..tmbus 135 tp msi bs tambah c..gw pake cdi dual band..blom gnt switch..
btw maen di bandung lwnnya mio bore up mlu dong..hweeee..

smlm shogun gw biz kalah sm mio ni..eh pas gw prhatiin paking bloknya tbellll bgttt..tutup klepnya panjanggg bgttt..gtwnya mio bore up..jd minder..hehe..

bro holy pa kbr????????
mizz u so.. :cupss:

waduh..salam kenal bro..makasih pendapat nya... :frm_salut:

tp ky nya ubahan skr udah cukup dl bro..cuz mtr gw masi mau tetep kliatan standard..cm knalpot doang yg kliatan ga standard..hehehe

lagian..udah cukup puas sm setingan skr..cuz jkt-bdg cm 2,5 bensin nya..heheh..jd dipakein pertamax+ juga ga miris...hahaha

mungkin nanti mau coba ganti coil+kabel busi sm cdi nya..tp nanti..kumpulin duit dl.. :ungg:

yg perlu dandan khan bukan mtr nya doang..tp yg nyemplak juga.. :big_peace:
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NYoman wrote:^
wah PJ maupun MJ diganti klo emg mesin ud di modif..
temen ud nyaranin port & polish.. kira2 jadi 2 hari.. biaya 500rb..
btw klo port & polish CC klo ga salah bisa nambah ya?

waduh..knp pas mau dimodif aja bro??mending skalian..naekin PJ,MJ trus ganti knalpot deh..

asik deh lari nya..hehehe..

yup porting polish biasa nya 2 hari..klw harga bervariasi..

salah..porting polish bukan nambahin CC..cm menyempurnakan jalur bahan bakar..in maupun out..

efek yg paling kerasa..lari jd tambah greng...tp bensin tetep irit..karna jalur nya udah halus smua

ibarat nya..1 tetes bensin biasanya utk 1 meter..nah klw udah porting polish..

1 tetes bensin bs utk 2 atw 3 meter..gt lah bro..

biasa nya udah porting polish..ga ganti PJ<MJ lari nya udah beda bgt..apa lg di naekin PJ,MJ nya

tp baek nya klw ganti MJ,PJ..dioptimalkan dg ganti knalpot freeflow..biar setingan gampang dapet nya.. :big_smoking:
ho gt ya bro..
thk's penjelasannya.. ane dapet kenalan dari orang2 yang sering ngerjain motor2 suzuki untuk road race.. katanya kerjanya halus.. di cuma minta 400 rb.. mau nabung dulu...

wah knalpot.. ini sedikit bermasalah di surabaya.. knalpot ga standar bisa ditilang sama polisi...di sini sedikit ketat bro..
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NYoman wrote: ho gt ya bro..
thk's penjelasannya.. ane dapet kenalan dari orang2 yang sering ngerjain motor2 suzuki untuk road race.. katanya kerjanya halus.. di cuma minta 400 rb.. mau nabung dulu...

wah knalpot.. ini sedikit bermasalah di surabaya.. knalpot ga standar bisa ditilang sama polisi...di sini sedikit ketat bro..
bagus bro klw ditanganin yg biasa ngorek2 mtr suzuki buat race...

so kulit jeruk di saluran in-out bs halus dg sempurna..

wah di surabaya ketat yah??klw gt ganti knalpot semi racing aja..suara nya tetep ky standard..

tp dy udah freeflow walau ga 100%..ya lumayan khan buat naekin performa..

klw ga salah knalpot merk NOB1..atw AHRS silent series..nah klw merk yg laen nya gw kurang tw..

mungkin bro2 yg laen nya bs bantu???nah klw udah ganti knalpot tp susah dapet setingan,,

mau ga mau naekin PJ..klw MJ ya terserah...klw PJ naek sampe 2 step,diusahakan MJ naek 1 step yah bro..

biar atas nya ga ngeden :ungg: ..hehehe :frm_tumbleft:
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ok, bro.. nanti klo ud di oprek saya kasih reviewnya..
btw nob1 ada seri silent sport suara tetap hening di rpm 8000 klo ga salah..
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NYoman wrote:ok, bro.. nanti klo ud di oprek saya kasih reviewnya..
btw nob1 ada seri silent sport suara tetap hening di rpm 8000 klo ga salah..
masa Shogun 125 bs 8000rpm? bukannya cuma sampe 6500rpm?

apa udah ga standar?
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anak_singkong wrote:
NYoman wrote:ok, bro.. nanti klo ud di oprek saya kasih reviewnya..
btw nob1 ada seri silent sport suara tetap hening di rpm 8000 klo ga salah..
masa Shogun 125 bs 8000rpm? bukannya cuma sampe 6500rpm?

apa udah ga standar?
new shogun NR gue gak ada jarum rpm-nye, tau dari mana sih..? speedometer kah..?
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bukan shogunnya bro..
tapi knalpot Nob! nya...
dia bisa di geber hingga 8000rpm tanpa suara yang keras..
gila aja shogun lari 8000rpm.. kotar-katir donk kita bawa motor...
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maksute... bro-bro pd ngomong sekian rpm. taunya dari mana..? kan di new shogun gak ada jarum rpm. feeling saja kah..?
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anak_singkong wrote: masa Shogun 125 bs 8000rpm? bukannya cuma sampe 6500rpm?

apa udah ga standar?

bukan nya emg bs 8000rpm???khan cdi nya aja di limit di 9500rpm klw standard..

so klw kita mau besut sampe 8000rpm atw sampe limit cdi..barti bs khan rpm nya tembus sgitu..


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Dogies wrote:maksute... bro-bro pd ngomong sekian rpm. taunya dari mana..? kan di new shogun gak ada jarum rpm. feeling saja kah..?

nah klw gw sih ga tw tuh cara mastiin sekian rpm waktu kita jalan...tp mentokin aja grip gas nya,

lagi diam or lg ngebut dijalan raya..nah klw udah sampe ke limit cdi,,nah barti itu +/- 9500rpm..

khan cdi shogun limit nya di 9500rpm..hehehe


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ya klo digeber sampe 9000rpm mesin jebol dong..berarti udah melebihi torsi/power max mesin itu sndri..

lihat aja di spesifikasinya..dlm keadaan standar Shogun 125 versi lama yg sy tau..

torsi max 1,1 kg/cm 5000rpm
daya max 9,5 dk/6500rpm

klo New Shogun sy ga tau..

nah..
klo pd rpm 5000 qta udh dpt torsi max dan 6500rpm qta udh dpt daya max..utk apa rpm tinggi2..berarti lewat dr rpm segitu power/torsi akan drop dan lama2 kruk as bs melintir..ring seher patah yg mengakibatkan kompresi bocor lalu piston macet

krg/lbh bgtu teorinya..klo ada yg salah tolong dikoreksi
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anak_singkong wrote:ya klo digeber sampe 9000rpm mesin jebol dong..berarti udah melebihi torsi/power max mesin itu sndri..

lihat aja di spesifikasinya..dlm keadaan standar Shogun 125 versi lama yg sy tau..

torsi max 1,1 kg/cm 5000rpm
daya max 9,5 dk/6500rpm

klo New Shogun sy ga tau..

nah..
klo pd rpm 5000 qta udh dpt torsi max dan 6500rpm qta udh dpt daya max..utk apa rpm tinggi2..berarti lewat dr rpm segitu power/torsi akan drop dan lama2 kruk as bs melintir..ring seher patah yg mengakibatkan kompresi bocor lalu piston macet

krg/lbh bgtu teorinya..klo ada yg salah tolong dikoreksi
keterangan diatas bener bro...

dengan syarat motor standard..dar..dar..tp biasanya dilapangan beda loh..sayang nya shogun ga ada RPM sih..hehehe

tp mnurut gw sih ga mungkin jebol bro..cuz rpm dibatesin cdi 9500...so pabrikan pasti

udah memperhitungkan ini...

nah gmn klw udah dilakuin ubahan seperti ganti PJ,MJ..so hasil torsi,daya rpm yg didapat pasti lebih tinggi khan dr yg standard...

contoh FU150: Daya Maksimum rpm 16 Ps/9.500
Torsi Maksimum Kgm/rpm 1,27/8,500

nah klw rpm di betot sampe limit 13000..motor tetep naek tuh speed nya..
padahal di data sgitu khan..hehehe..dl ane pake FU/raider 2004..cuz bli nya inden..hehe

yah gw juga ga tw sih yg mana yg bener..ini hanya pengalaman...

yuk ah bro smua koresi klw ada salah..hehehe



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shogun gw juga bisa sampe 12.000 kok, gw liat di takonya :e-whistle: :frm_tumbright:
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sandosicora wrote:shogun gw juga bisa sampe 12.000 kok, gw liat di takonya :e-whistle: :frm_tumbright:
wahduh..ghawad..pasang tako sendiri yah bro??yakin akurat ga??

or cdi bro udah ganti??rasa nya ga nyangka aja bs tembus sgitu rpm nya.. :ungg:



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12k rpm? wow..
btw desain piston new shogun ini katanya baru ya.. ga datar kyk biasa tapi ada coakannya..
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itu dia yang gw ga tau, akurat pa ganya :e-whistle: tapi kayaknya sih kalo masih dibawah 10rb masih akurat, cuma di atas 12.000 kadang jarumnya rpm-nya suka ngebalik sendiri :shrug: kenapa yah :e-think: iya gw pasang sendiri :mrgreen:
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sandosicora wrote:itu dia yang gw ga tau, akurat pa ganya :e-whistle: tapi kayaknya sih kalo masih dibawah 10rb masih akurat, cuma di atas 12.000 kadang jarumnya rpm-nya suka ngebalik sendiri :shrug: kenapa yah :e-think: iya gw pasang sendiri :mrgreen:
nah berarti itu tako2 an bro..ga akurat..apa lg ga ada kabel yg masuk mesin..cm kabel2 yg dipasang

dr kabel2 body..sm aja boong dong...tako yg bener khan mesti ada kabel yg masuk ke mesin,,

kabel itu di dalem nya ada kawat yg muter..trus baru masuk ke rpm..klw cm dari kabel2 kelistrikan doang tuh tako bs nyala,,pastinya ga akurat dong..lah wong listrik yg dialirin..bukan putaran rpm.. :ungg:

itu sih mnurut gw bro..lagian kasus tako yg bro jelasin diatas juga udah nunjukin ketidak akuratan nya

lagipula shogun klw cdi masi standard..dar..dar itu limit nya cm 9500...

nah gmn tuh???? :shrug:

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kabelnya ada 4, yang 1 gw masukin pulser, yang 1 ke koil, 1 ke kontak, 1 kabel masa ke konektor lampu.... kasus jarum ngebalik sendiri itu kalo motor ga dalam keadaan jalan gw gasnya, pas idle gw gas pol jadinya gitu, kalo digeber dalam keadaan jalan ga ada kasus jarum ngebalik... iya cdi gw masih standar emang, tapi kalo dibawah 10rb gw yakin akurat sih :e-whistle: :mrgreen: imho
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sandosicora wrote:kabelnya ada 4, yang 1 gw masukin pulser, yang 1 ke koil, 1 ke kontak, 1 kabel masa ke konektor lampu.... kasus jarum ngebalik sendiri itu kalo motor ga dalam keadaan jalan gw gasnya, pas idle gw gas pol jadinya gitu, kalo digeber dalam keadaan jalan ga ada kasus jarum ngebalik... iya cdi gw masih standar emang, tapi kalo dibawah 10rb gw yakin akurat sih :e-whistle: :mrgreen: imho
aduh..ya klw bro yakin akurat sih monggo...

klw gw sih kurang yakin..cuz smua dr kabel2 kelistrikan..ga ada yg kedalem mesin..

RPM khan ratio per munites / putaran mesin...nah klw ga ada yg masuk ke mesin..ya ga akurat dong heheh :big_peace:

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Davy wrote:
dengan syarat motor standard..dar..dar..tp biasanya dilapangan beda loh..sayang nya shogun ga ada RPM sih..hehehe

tp mnurut gw sih ga mungkin jebol bro..cuz rpm dibatesin cdi 9500...so pabrikan pasti

udah memperhitungkan ini...

nah gmn klw udah dilakuin ubahan seperti ganti PJ,MJ..so hasil torsi,daya rpm yg didapat pasti lebih tinggi khan dr yg standard...

contoh FU150: Daya Maksimum rpm 16 Ps/9.500
Torsi Maksimum Kgm/rpm 1,27/8,500

nah klw rpm di betot sampe limit 13000..motor tetep naek tuh speed nya..
padahal di data sgitu khan..hehehe..dl ane pake FU/raider 2004..cuz bli nya inden..hehe

yuk ah bro smua koresi klw ada salah..hehehe

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ya klo itu mungkin cuma sebentar atw bbrp detik aja gpp..motornya kan ga digeber dlm rpm segitu terus2an..?

coba klo misalnya dlm perjalanan jauh di geber berjam2 dlm rpm 13000rpm..apa situ berani? pastinya ya rusaklah :)
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Davy wrote: aduh..ya klw bro yakin akurat sih monggo...

klw gw sih kurang yakin..cuz smua dr kabel2 kelistrikan..ga ada yg kedalem mesin..

RPM khan ratio per munites / putaran mesin...nah klw ga ada yg masuk ke mesin..ya ga akurat dong heheh :big_peace:

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kurang tau juga deh kalo itu, pulser kan nyambung ke kumparan magnet, mungkin ga kalo puteran mesin yang ke magnet sama kayak yang ke rpm? motor gw idle di 1000rpm, angkanya sama kayak kalo di ukur pake alat ukur rpm yang di bengkel :e-think:
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sandosicora wrote:
kurang tau juga deh kalo itu, pulser kan nyambung ke kumparan magnet, mungkin ga kalo puteran mesin yang ke magnet sama kayak yang ke rpm? motor gw idle di 1000rpm, angkanya sama kayak kalo di ukur pake alat ukur rpm yang di bengkel :e-think:

hmmm mungkin aja sih..cm keakuratan nya ga 100% gt kali yah??hheheh

soal nya rpm bawaan pabrik aja kadang ga 100% akurat loh..apa lg part PNP..ya ga bro?? :ungg:

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