New Grand Innova 2011 G A/T, bensin atau solar

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Re: New Grand Innova 2011 G A/T, bensin atau solar

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solar jauh lebih irit. tarikan pendek lebih responsif
kalau tarikan panjang jelas enak bensin...
overall prefer solar :mrgreen:
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Re: New Grand Innova 2011 G A/T, bensin atau solar

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Ashura989 wrote:tarikan ipah diesel lebih mantap dari tokinop bensin. soal top speed bensin and diesel ngga terlalu ngefek deh, scr diatas 95 or 100 km/j perasaan setir-na dah getar2 gitu.

and soal noise, ko malah ributan yang bensin dibanding yang diesel ya pas baru dinyalain. kalo udah lamaan sie, rasanya sama2 senyap-na deh ( kalo di dalam ya)


and berasa loh boros-na bensin vs solar. ( apalage scr kalo bensin musti yang non-subsidi :evil: :frm_bang_head: and solar pake yang busuk ngga papa :big_peace: , kata kepala DPR ( Dewan Perwakilan Rumah:)

ane coba jawab yahh...

utk tarikan... emang yg diesel sdikit lebi unggul utk yg bensin dan ini terjadi stelah ipah bensin menganut standard euro 2... waktu masi ga pake euro2 an sehh.. yg bensin lebi ganas drpd yg diesel tarikan nya... utk top speed... kayanya kalo utk kondisi standard... yg bensin tetep lebi menang yahh... yg diesel perna ane coba entah knapa cuman mentok di 130an... mau lebi dari itu kayanya susah banget...
nahh kalo soal bahan bakar... kayanya baik bensin atau solar sama aja... tetep lebi bagus pake premium atau pertadex... karena toh sama2 ga kuat2 amat kalo dicekokin bbm subsidi utk jangka waktu panjang...
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Re: New Grand Innova 2011 G A/T, bensin atau solar

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saya baru ambil G/MT bensin om.
masih perlu masa-sama inreyen ga ya? so sar dipake santai2 saja minum pertamax
ini mobil wiken doang jalannya bukan ntuk harian kerja
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Solar menang di torsi, otomatis bawa barang / kapasitas penumpang banyak lebih kuat narik nya.
buat tanjakan juga menang solar.

Salah satu alasan kenapa Luxury ga dikeluarkan untuk tipe solar karena stereotipe masyarakat indonesia untuk solar masih kurang prestige dan dianggap bahan bakar untuk angkutan
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ngencox wrote:saya baru ambil G/MT bensin om.
masih perlu masa-sama inreyen ga ya? so sar dipake santai2 saja minum pertamax
ini mobil wiken doang jalannya bukan ntuk harian kerja
Sebenernya dari pabrikannya nggapapa ngga perlu inreyen. Tapii, kalau mobil ini mau dijadikan 'abdi dalem' Anda di keluarga, sebaiknya perlakukan dengan baik... misalnya, tetep sopan bawa sampai 1000km pertama dan 5000km pertama. Engga dimuatin overloaded dengan kecepatan tinggi, pakai oli yang direkomen saja sudah cukup, kecuali kalau bujet Anda lebih leluasa, silakan pakai merk yang ternama aja. Super muahal tapi ngga dikenal, buat saya, mengkhawatirkan.

*mobil sy juga hanya buat weekend, om.. Makanya saya engga ngedaftarin nomor mobil saya di parkir gratisan kantor.. Segen aja..* :ungg:
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yg jadi pikiran TS kan soal konsumsi BBM. pengalaman sih, perliternya solar lebih irit. Tapi rupiah belum tentu, karena dgn asumsi ke dpannya ( bukan sekarang ), solar pertadex lebih mahal dari pertamax ( saat ini >20%, CMIIW ), jadi penghematan perliter bahan bakarnya harus lebih dari 20%. misalnya bensin 1:10, maka minimal solar harus bisa 1:12 untuk rute dan beban yg sama. Selain itu perhitungkan juga pajak yg harus dibayar ( solar > bensin ), harga belinya juga. Kalo resale, tgt kondisi mobilnya saat di jual.
Mengenai tarikan, bensin kalo bener2 diadu, jauh lebih cepat ( kalo gasalah 0 - 100km/j, bensin < 13 detik, solar 16 atau 17 detik ). kenapa solar berasa lebih responsif? krn karakter mesinnya torsi ada di rpm rendah, sedangkan bensin di rpm atasnya. jadi yg bensin perlu waktu buat nyampe torsi maksimumnya. Untuk daily cruise dalam kota, enak solar. Tapi untuk luar kota, enak bensin, asal tau hrs main di rpm berapa, tarikan waktu nyusul lebih cepat dari solar. Pengalaman, nyusul enaknya rpm > 2800 an...
Jadi tgt mau make dimana kebanyakan, dalkot apa lukot...
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bener om kalo sama2 manual, ipah diesel jauh lebih lemot dari bensin. Yg diesel M/T enak buat mendaki gunung sama tarikan menengah aja menurut saya..
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tapi sejak ipah feslip... malah mnurut yg nubie rasain sendiri... yg diesel jadi nya lebi enak tarikan nya ketimbang yg bensin.... entah knapa sejak ipah feslip, utk yg bensin tarikan nya jadi kaga galak... lemot, lelet gt..

laen crita kalo ipah gen 1... ane stuju dahh kalo yg bensin tarikan lebi nendang dari yg diesel...
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DOHC wrote:tapi sejak ipah feslip... malah mnurut yg nubie rasain sendiri... yg diesel jadi nya lebi enak tarikan nya ketimbang yg bensin.... entah knapa sejak ipah feslip, utk yg bensin tarikan nya jadi kaga galak... lemot, lelet gt..

laen crita kalo ipah gen 1... ane stuju dahh kalo yg bensin tarikan lebi nendang dari yg diesel...
feslip yg mana nih chiong? yg 2008 atau yg grand new? :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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sama aja siong... pokoknya yg sejak euro euro an dehh... kalo yg grand new ane blom perna coba...
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Agan2 sekalian yg pernah make inopah AT bensin boleh minta masukan ga rata2 FC di kisaran brapa aja?thx b4
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DOHC wrote:sama aja siong... pokoknya yg sejak euro euro an dehh... kalo yg grand new ane blom perna coba...
Yang pake euro2 gitu, udah 2TR-FE, atau masih 1TR-FE tapi dimodif jadi euro2?
Menurut pemikiran supir truk awam kyk ane, kalo masih 1TR-FE tapi dimodif biar emisinya lolos Euro2, ya pantesan aja mejen...wong teknologinya masih teknologi gen1 dari famili TR engine..

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2TR-FE itu yg 2.7 om Vanz....yg 1TR-FE 2.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_TR_engine
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kalo toyota kode mesin itu bloknya aja ya?
kalo di mitsu, mesin jadoel aja bisa tembus euro2an koq... seperti 4D56, 4Gxx.. tinggal ganti cyl head aja... :big_peace:
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FortunerMan wrote:2TR-FE itu yg 2.7 om Vanz....yg 1TR-FE 2.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_TR_engine
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maskopat wrote:kalo toyota kode mesin itu bloknya aja ya?
kalo di mitsu, mesin jadoel aja bisa tembus euro2an koq... seperti 4D56, 4Gxx.. tinggal ganti cyl head aja... :big_peace:
OB sotoy coba jawab om Kopat....

Ini soal kode designasi mesin bensin Atoyot dulu y, bukan disel. Jawabannya tidak. Kode mesin Toyota cukup lengkap mendeskripsikan kode blok, generasi, konfigurasi kepala silinder, sistem pengabutan bahan bakar, sistem pemasukan udara.

- Kode blok dan generasinya (menyangkut displacement juga, makin besar angka makin tinggi displacement):
Misal yang jadul K Series (3K, 4K, dst), F Series (1F, 2F, dll), ato yang modern misal ZZ Series (1ZZ, 2ZZ, dst);

- Juga konfigurasi kepala silinder:
F (DOHC banci narrow angle), G (DOHC sejati wide angle)

- Juga sistem pengabutan bahan bakar:
E (Electronic fuel injection)

- Plus sistem pemampatan udaranya:
T (turbocharger), Z (supercharger)

Salah satu pabrikan yang kode mesinnya bisa menjelaskan lumayan lengkap, IMO, Toyota ini, di luar kapasitas mesinnya (gak seperti Sijuki/Honda, misalnya, yang CC nya ketauan dari kode mesinnya).

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hmmm,, makin besar angka gak selalu makin gede oom NG..

1NZ-FE is 1500cc
1NZ-FXE (Hybrid) is 1300cc (CMIIW)
2NZ-FE is 1300cc

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Sip2 om Datsu thanx atas koreksinya! OB sotoy belajar lagi.... Image
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datsu wrote:hmmm,, makin besar angka gak selalu makin gede oom NG..

1NZ-FE is 1500cc
1NZ-FXE (Hybrid) is 1300cc (CMIIW)
2NZ-FE is 1300cc

hehehehehe.....
Cmiiw, makin besar angkanya di depan, menunjukkan generasinya. 1NZ lebih duluan mbrojol dibanding 2NZ, gt kira2 ya?
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Betol, om VM.... :cupss:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Betol, om VM.... :cupss:
HAISSSS, cium2 segalaa...! :snipersmile: :frm_shock:
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maap oom NG, pengetahuan ane juga cetek.. cuman maen2 di wiki aja.. :p beneran oom VM tuh... :ngacir:
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kok pada main cetek2an gini sih..... :big_weee: :big_weee:

btw...selama di jalan...saya lbh sering ketemu G.Inova yang tipe E
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malah skrg ane lebi sering ketemu yg ipah G 2.5 d4d... berbeda ama beberapa taon yg lalu dmana masi di dominasi yg ipah G 2.0 vvt-i... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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kalo yang tipe J dijalanan baru cuma ketemu sekali seumur idup.... :big_weee: :big_weee:
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