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Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2.4 V

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Bos sy ada rencana mu ganti mobil nih....mohon pencerahannya, mending mana nih ambil Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2.4 V ataw Accord 2.4 VTiL tp sy lebih kesengsem Altis ama 7 speednya kalo Camry ma Accord kegedean kalo lg dipake ma bini...honda civic kynya mu ganti model....makasih bos atas masukan2nya.... :big_peace:
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lokasi di mana om?
kebutuhannya bawa sendiri, atau pake supir?
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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di Bandung bos...
Sy anti disupirin paling berempat ma anak 2, sebenarnya td pgn camry tp dipikir2 kgedean tau sendiri kan skr lalin bandung muacettt ma jalannya sempit tp pas liat altis keren jg...tp mohon pencerahannya bos, altis enak nga dl babeh punya altis taun 03 manual keras banget kuplingnya kalo nunggu civic baru kayanya masih lama & accord yang baru VTil enak nga bos...thanks
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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Menarik disimak

selain civic, yg udah hampir ganti model kayaknya camry

anda pengen big sedan tapi takut kegedean ya
jalan tengahnya ada di mazda6 pak :mrgreen:
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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altis aja bos... uda mantep banget yg 2.0V..
fitur uda mendekati accord :D:D
terus termasuk mesin yg bagus di toyota, dual vvti.
camry yg 2.4 aja masi belum dual vvti :big_peace:
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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yup sy pernah liat mazda6 keren jg tp ma altis 2.0 bagus mana ?

tolong dunk kelemahan & kelebihan mazda6 soalnya masih buta ttg mazda nih
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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Toyota Altis 2.0 V
Harga Rp 380 juta
Panjang 4.540/2.600 mm
Lebar/Tinggi 1.760/1.465 mm
Mesin/kapasitas 4 inline/1.997 cc
Tenaga maksimum 156 dk/6.200 rpm
Torsi maksimum 206 Nm/3.600 rpm
Transmisi 7-spd CVT/fwd
Kapasitas tangki 55 liter
Bobot 1.275 kg
Radius putaran 5,3 m
0-100 km/jam 10,7 detik
60-80 km/jam 2,3 detik*
80-100 km/jam 2,9 detik*
100-120 km/jam 3,75 detik*
Konsumsi bbm 17,2/9,2 km/l

Mitsubishi Lancer EX 2.0 GT
Harga Rp 415 juta
Panjang 4.570/2.635 mm
Lebar/Tinggi 1.760/1.490 mm
Mesin/kapasitas 4 silinder/1.998 cc
Tenaga maksimum 155 dk/6.000 rpm
Torsi maksimum 199 Nm/4.250 rpm
Transmisi 6-spd CVT/fwd
Kapasitas tangki 59 liter
Bobot 1.385 kg
Radius putaran 5,0 m
0-100 km/jam 9,9 detik
60-80 km/jam 2,6 detik*
80-100 km/jam 2,9 detik*
100-120 km/jam 3,5 detik*
Konsumsi bbm 14,8/8,3 km/l

Honda Civic 2.0
Harga Rp 420 juta
Panjang 4.540/2.700 mm
Lebar/Tinggi 1.750/1.435 mm
Mesin/kapasitas 4 silinder/1.998 cc
Tenaga maksimum 155 dk/6.000 rpm
Torsi maksimum 188 Nm/4.500 rpm
Transmisi 5-spd auto/fwd
Kapasitas tangki 50 liter
Bobot 1.295 kg
Radius putaran 5,4 m
0-100 km/jam 9,6 detik
60-80 km/jam 2,4 detik*
80-100 km/jam 2,6 detik*
100-120 km/jam 3,5 detik*
Konsumsi bbm 14,5/10,5 km/l

Mazda6
2.488 cc / 170 dk.....Rp 485 juta

Toyota New Camry 2.4V
2.362 cc / 167 dk.... Rp 484,6 juta

Nissan Teana 250 XV
2.496 cc / 182 dk....Rp 476,95 juta


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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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Kelemahan mazda
kabin nya sempit dibanding camry teana accord, terutama headroomnya
keluar masuk mobil mesti bungkuk, karena atapnya landai (demi aerodinamika kali)


kelebihan :
dr pilihan diatas, mazda6 pilihan terbaik u/ driver car,
terutama dr suspensinya
kalo anda suka nikung ini dia keunggulan utamanya
sama u/ pindah jalur, wuih enak dah, anti limbung
ini mobil terasa sangat berkarakter

selain itu :
fitur berlimpah
kesenyapan kabin baik
sound system bagus, dah pake bose
terkesan ekslusif, jarang ketemu kembarannya di jalanan
kalo bisa dapet unit 2010, diskonnya pasti gede

u/ kelengkapan data lainnya :
Tangki BBM 60 L
Transmisi 5 speed + manual shift
kons bbm
tol, jalan santai 7L/100km
dalkot : 14L - 15L / 100km
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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Kl itu pilihannya
Altis 2.0 V for sure . Kl mau nambah bujet dikit ya itu bisa sambil mazda6 deh .

Honda Civic udah uzur mau ganti model,Camry juga mau ganti model keknya.

Altis 2.0V sendiri udah bagus
pros :
- 7speed
- fitur bejibun: rainsensor,electric seat, smart entry, DVD+Navigation, HID, dual vvti
- Nyaman
- Hening
- Model fresh krn baru feslip dan lbh timeless modelnya imo.
cons:
- space kabin kurang kalo dibandingkan civic
- handling kurang
- peleknya kecil :frm_bang_head:

Kl mazda6 dah menang dimana2 deh :) . Ga usah mikirin resale apalagi ini sedan 11-12 lah pastinya kl udah 5-6th.

Sebenere ada alter lagi Teana tp bro ga suka ama yg over size keknya dicoret aja .
Kl mau sabar nunggu Sonata kluar bro. Modelnya gahar.
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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Nambahin pendapat bos evo.
Kl mau gengsi dan jarang kembarannya mmg kudu milih altis, mazda6 atau ntar sonata .
GUe tipikal yg gak seneng banyak mbl yg nyamain mbl gue :)
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nambahin bro campoeran :
altis kalo ga salah ada sharing beberapa sparepart ama vios?
kalo iya, brarti perawatannya paling enak
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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Bang evo kl itu gua gak tau . CUpu :)
Nambahin di 2.0v altis ada mode manual , bisa juga dipindah lwt paddleshift. maknyos tp hentakannya gak kerasa ui gara2 cvtnya kali ya ?
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nah utk paddle shiftnya mazda6 ane kurang suka dipake
karena perpindahan giginya jadi kurang halus
mungkin hanya kepake kalo pengemudinya amat agresif

buat ane D saja cukup
dah cukup pinter ni transmisinya
ane mau kenceng dia pindah gigi di rpm atas
kalo pelan gantinya di rpm bawah
kena tanjakan dia akan gonta ganti gigi sendiri secara sgt halus untuk menjaga kecepatan kendaraan
kalo dulu di T30 mesti kick down, sekarang ga usah lagi :D
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wah, kalo ada teana, milih neng teana lah.... atau mazda 6....

lancer ex 2.0 GT? wow... menarik nih.... :ungg:

sekedar saran om, coba test drive dan ajak keluarga juga. yang mana kira2 yang pas dihati.... happy hunting om...

*note: ane gak pernah nyobain satupun dari semua mobil2 ini.... :big_peace:
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Neng teana kalo gak salah CVT nya udah pake paddle shift deh? :e-think:
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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ane dari gramedia
liat majalah motor trend
tertulis komparasi mazda6 vs lancer
langsung ane beli deh

ane kasih ringkasannya ya

fitur kenyamanan
mazda6 unggul, lancer seperti overprice

performa
0-100 km/jam
mazda6 11,2 detik
lancer 11,5 detik

0-400m
mazda6 17,9 detik 128,2km/j
lancer 18,2 detik 128,7km/j
mazda6 unggul tipis

penyebab mazda6 kurang optimal disebabkan rasio gear yg terlalu jauh.

lancer lebih fun to drive
karena suspensi lebih rigid, raungan mesin yg bagus, power steering feedback yg baik

mazda6 kalah
karena masih mengusahakan kenyamanan, serba elektronik, feedback kurang natural, bobotnya berat

Visibilitas
lancer unggul

Keselamatan
mazda6 unggul jauh


kata kiasannya :
Lancer : jika Tuhan memasukkan adrenalin ke dalam botol yg rapat, maka Lancer memberikan pembuka tutupnya
Mazda6 : anda seperti memainkan mobil sport keren dalam game Gran Turismo, seru namun ada sekat
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Re: Nanya Grand New Altis 2.0V, Honda Civic 2.0, New Camry 2

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oh ya tertulis jg
kata Motortrend
intinya aja ya
harga lancer yg tinggi tidak terlihat di fitur, kenyamanan, safety, desain interior
tapi harganya yg tinggi itu untuk ngasah taringnya

bujubuneng
emang mitsubishi selalu bikin mobil born to run
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hm.... menarik juga ya perbandingannya, om evo....

btw 0-100 km/jam koq kayaknya lambat ya? 11 detik lebih... dulu zamannya lancer GTi sekitar 10 detik-an? atau ane salah ingat ya? :e-think:
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nah untuk 0-100km/j
standartnya majalah motortrend emang beda ama autobild
seinget ane
untuk kelas mobil jazz, swift, dll
hasil test mreka tu di 12detik lebih
beda ama autobild yg 10detik /kurang

mungkin metode tes mreka berbeda
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Klo ane se plg demen ma teana baru bos.kekny lbh nyaman gt.tp blom Pernah test drive.ane cm ke ahowroom n liet2 sambil duduk2 bos.klo mbl honda kesanny keras de.plg baik se test drive z.
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Masih kencengan Camry 2004 ane 2.4 M/T....10,6 detik :e-dance:

Tapi dari pilihan2 ini - ane juga ambil Teana putih. Camry dah jadul, Accord gak doyan tampangnya, Mazda6 kurang om2, Corolla, dll kekecilan. Intinya, ane demen mobil bermoncong gede...bling bling :mrgreen:
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Kalo kepincut ama Altis 2.0 tapi budgetnya bisa sampai Camry ya bisa pertimbangkan Teana, karena mirip2 altis 2.0 transmisinya sama2 pake CVT dan paddle shift.

Mesin 2.5 V6 gak usah diragukan lagi, beda lah ama I4 :upss: :upss: :upss:
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Teana dapet sunroof :e-dance:

Faktor kenyamanan sudah pasti menang Teana daripada Altis 2.0 :frm_tumbright: :frm_tumbleft:

Akhirnya seperti yang dibilang sama om maskopat, test drive saja semuanya! :off_good:
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Racun neng Teana :) . Tp Ts gak mau size yg gede2 tuh makanya ane rekomen altis or mazda6 aza.
Kl mmg gak jadi masalah ama sizenya, absolutely go for Teana . Cuaaakep abis , apalagi yg warna putih.
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ane kutip dr autobild edisi 193
komparasi mazda6, camry, teana
0-100km/jam
6 : 9,7 detik
camry : 9.8 detik
teana : 8,7 detik

komparasi 1800cc altis, cruze, civic
altis : 10,87 detik
cruze : 10,2 detik
civic : 8,9 detik